Clearing up the foggy situation that is #PassarelleGate- Page 2

[DAME]

Posted: 6/16/17 at 5:27pm

Auggie27 said: "It's hardly Midler's fault that Jones and Lee were excluded (or Jane Greenwood, my own sticking point).  They were relegated to an hour not even broadcast, a Tony program issue, not Rudin's or Bette's or {fill in the blank}.  Her extended paean to the show she's in was the event casting of the season acknowledging how personally gratifying the experience is. Surely that's one thing we tune in to celebrate.  

 

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Exactly!  

[Valentina3]

Posted: 6/16/17 at 6:09pm

haterobics said: "This thread doesn't deliver on its title's promises."

Amen. Also, enough with Midler hate. She's never been everyone's cup of tea, I don't see why you guys have to be hateful though. The content of her speech itself was absolute truth, and spoke to a lot of theater fans. I saw her backstage press interview and it was so emotional, she recounts her unprivileged past and how grateful she was yo have great teachers and mentors. It's very inspiring.

 

[MattG3]

Posted: 6/16/17 at 6:26pm

broadwaygirl10 said: "Also, the Tony committee refused to let Dolly perform from the Shubert bc they didn't want to start a precedent of shows performing from their theaters."

Having actually watched the Tony's this year because I had my first ever trip to NY in May, so I was excited to really feel a part of the show (saw 6 shows in 5 days, including Dolly, DEH, and Little Foxes). 

I felt like all of the performances were a let down in different ways. Radio City's stage is just soooo big. Broadway stages are so small and intimate. To me it seemed like Platt was running a marathon moving around on that big stage; all but being swallowed up by the massive stage. The War Paint duet was the same way for me. As were just about all of the performances. 

Keeping in mind all the talk about the musical performances being the one documentation of each show that lives on for years to come, I would actually prefer it if all the musicals performed from their own stage. That would give us all the truest picture of how the show is. 

I feel like DEH's performance on the today show was more powerful with them just standing there than the Tony performance was. 

Am I in the minority? 

Updated On: 6/16/17 at 06:26 PM

[Telegram Spam]

Posted: 6/16/17 at 6:48pm

Had Rudin been allowed to broadcast a number from the Shubert, he could have masked the weakness of Midler's voice by lip syncing. At Radio City, 6000 people in the audience, and millions at home, would have heard the weak, warbling remnant of a voice that is a distant memory for her fans. (I saw her do "Clams On the Halfshell" in 1975 and remember how amazing she was!) I think that an awful lot of engineering went into making her voice sound palatable on the cast recording.

I wouldn't be surprised if Bette herself told Rudin that she was afraid to sing live at the Music Hall. He gave her excuses to hide behind that night.

[bk]

Posted: 6/16/17 at 6:49pm

broadwaygirl10 said: "Also, the Tony committee refused to let Dolly perform from the Shubert bc they didn't want to start a precedent of shows performing from their theaters. 

 

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That precedent, friends, was set long, long ago.  Starlight Express performed remotely from its theater and it is hardly a one-off example.  Rudin, like him or hate him, made a judgment call and while everyone loves to hate him, the fact is the jerk producers to the Tonys could have done it easily.  But they are all about crass, which is why the show is held in that behemoth Radio City, where it has no business being, but, you know, they can accommodate all those paying,screaming teens up in the skies there and they can also load it with paid screamers, which they do.  I blame no one but the network and producers of the show - they simply don't know what they're doing and each year it gets worse and worse.  When the Tonys were produced by people, you know, you understood and knew Broadway, when they were broadcast from, you know, Broadway theaters, they were better.  The celebrated what should have been celebrated.  They found time for all the musical numbers, an occasional tribute number AND to have all categories presented on air.  

[DAME]

Posted: 6/16/17 at 7:52pm

bk said: "broadwaygirl10 said: "Also, the Tony committee refused to let Dolly perform from the Shubert bc they didn't want to start a precedent of shows performing from their theaters. 

 

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That precedent, friends, was set long, long ago.  Starlight Express performed remotely from its theater and it is hardly a one-off example.  Rudin, like him or hate him, made a judgment call and while everyone loves to hate him, the fact is the jerk producers to the Tonys could have done it easily.  But they are all about crass, which is why the show is held in that behemoth Radio City, where it has no business being, but, you know, they can accommodate all those paying,screaming teens up in the skies there and they can also load it with paid screamers, which they do.  I blame no one but the network and producers of the show - they simply don't know what they're doing and each year it gets worse and worse.  When the Tonys were produced by people, you know, you understood and knew Broadway, when they were broadcast from, you know, Broadway theaters, they were better.  The celebrated what should have been celebrated.  They found time for all the musical numbers, an occasional tribute number AND to have all categories presented on air.  

 

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Bravo!  Right on point.

[Dollypop]

Posted: 6/16/17 at 10:13pm

Settle down people!

 

KEEP CALM

AND DANCE ERMENGARDE'S WEDDING!