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re: Failed Movie to Musicals

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Mr Roxy
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Failed Movie to Musicals
Posted: 7/26/09 at 11:59am
Paper Moon
Sayonara
Arthur
Elmer Gantry
East of Eden - 1 perf
Lolita - Closed Out Of Town

Any others you can think of?
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TimesSquareRegular
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re: Failed Movie to Musicals
Posted: 7/26/09 at 12:36pm
Assuming you mean failed musicals based on movies (not failed movies), there are way too many of 'em. A few that immediately come to mind:

BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY'S
LA STRADA
HIGH FIDELITY
FOOTLOOSE
URBAN COWBOY
2014 Intimacy (1/18), Bronx Bombers (2/05), Kung-Fu (2/09), Matilda (2/12), The Velocity Of Autumn (4/18), Easter Bonnet Competition (4/22), Just Jim Dale (5/16), Behind The Magic - Motown (5/22), Just Jim Dale (5/29), The Book Of Mormon (6/04), Holler If Ya Hear Me (7/03), Indian Ink (9/04). Stalking The Bogeyman (9/13), If/Then (9/14), On The Town (10/04), The Book Of Mormon (10/08), The Last Ship (11/05), Lips Together, Teeth Apart (11/12), Small Town Story -workshop- (11/13), Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time (11/20), Pippin (11/23), The Last Ship (11/26), Honeymoon In Vegas (11/29 m), This Is Our Youth (11/29), Allegro (12/13)
Jon
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re: Failed Movie to Musicals
Posted: 7/26/09 at 01:34pm
Saturday Night Fever
Young Frankenstein

Technically, Elmer Gantry, East of Eden, Lolita, High Fidelity and Breakfast at Tiffany's are adapted from novels that were famous on their own, regardless of whether there was a movie.
Updated On: 7/26/09 at 01:34 PM
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blaxx
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re: Failed Movie to Musicals
Posted: 7/26/09 at 02:13pm
I made this list of movies to musicals from the mid 90's (I really think 9 to 5 and Shrek will go to the FLOP list soon):


HITS
THE LION KING
THE FULL MONTY
THE PRODUCERS
HAIRSPRAY
SPAMALOT
MARY POPPINS

FLOPS
HIGH SOCIETY
FOOTLOOSE
SWEET SMELL OF SUCCESS
SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER
URBAN COWBOY
THOROUGHLY MODERN MILLIE
DIRTY ROTTEN SCOUNDRELS
CHITTY CHITTY BANG BANG
THE WEDDING SINGER
TARZAN
GREY GARDENS
HIGH FIDELITY
LEGALLY BLONDE
XANADU
CRY-BABY
YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN
THE LITTLE MERMAID



Listen, I don't take my clothes off for anyone, even if it is "artistic". - JANICE
Updated On: 7/26/09 at 02:13 PM
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bjh2114
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re: Failed Movie to Musicals
Posted: 7/26/09 at 02:26pm
I wouldn't consider Grey Gardens a movie musical. Yes, Act II was based on the documentary, but it was more based on the two women's lives than the film itself.
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blaxx
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re: Failed Movie to Musicals
Posted: 7/26/09 at 02:35pm
Still, the source was the documentary. It belongs on the list.
Listen, I don't take my clothes off for anyone, even if it is "artistic". - JANICE
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fashionguru_23
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re: Failed Movie to Musicals
Posted: 7/26/09 at 03:01pm
this is my version of blaxx's "flop" list

FLOPS
FOOTLOOSE
SWEET SMELL OF SUCCESS
SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER
URBAN COWBOY
CHITTY CHITTY BANG BANG
TARZAN
HIGH FIDELITY
YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN



"The 54th Street[theatre] had a rep as. . .where old musicals went to die." -Smaxie
Updated On: 5/10/12 at 03:01 PM
CATSNYrevival
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re: Failed Movie to Musicals
Posted: 7/26/09 at 03:11pm
Millie didn't make back it's investment. That's the definition of a flop.
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husk_charmer
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re: Failed Movie to Musicals
Posted: 7/26/09 at 03:13pm
Going back farther, Ballroom!
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saveusmike
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re: Failed Movie to Musicals
Posted: 7/26/09 at 03:16pm
I cant believe it. No one mentioned Carrie yet?
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fashionguru_23
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re: Failed Movie to Musicals
Posted: 7/26/09 at 03:16pm
if we're talking about money, then sure, MILLIE flopped, but in the area is fans, or people wanting to see the show... I think it did fine

P.S. My question WAS RETORICAL
"The 54th Street[theatre] had a rep as. . .where old musicals went to die." -Smaxie
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blaxx
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re: Failed Movie to Musicals
Posted: 7/26/09 at 03:46pm
I cant believe it. No one mentioned Carrie yet?

I think it borrows equally from the novel and the movie, so may not qualify for this.
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millie_dillmount
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re: Failed Movie to Musicals
Posted: 7/26/09 at 03:57pm
'if we're talking about money, then sure, MILLIE flopped, but in the area is fans, or people wanting to see the show... I think it did fine'

Everyone has a different definition of flop. Technically, a flop is a show that has not recouped its initial investment. But some shows that were financial flops were not flops in terms of audience acclaim. Xanadu is one example I can think of. Audiences loved it. Even so, it wasn't pulling in enough money to stay open.

By the way, it is RHETORICAL.
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brandontwin2
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re: Failed Movie to Musicals
Posted: 7/26/09 at 04:24pm
Legally Blonde at least seems to be having a decent tour life.
CATSNYrevival
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re: Failed Movie to Musicals
Posted: 7/26/09 at 04:38pm
If we're talking about money, then sure, MILLIE flopped, but in the area is fans, or people wanting to see the show... I think it did fine.

By that logic you'd have to say that every show is a hit since every show has it's fans. There are some brilliant artistically satisfying works that have played on Broadway that I'd love to call a hit in terms of artistic success, but at the end of the day it's all about money.
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Mr Roxy
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re: Failed Movie to Musicals
Posted: 7/26/09 at 04:44pm
Most definitely Carrie
Cynicism is an unpleasant way of saying the truth - Lillian Hellman.
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Smaxie
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re: Failed Movie to Musicals
Posted: 7/26/09 at 04:56pm
A few more...

Hazel Flagg
Carnival in Flanders
Georgy
The Baker's Wife
Seven Brides for Seven Brothers
Meet Me in St. Louis
Singin' in the Rain
Ballroom
Illya Darling
Nick and Nora
Henry, Sweet Henry
Eating Raoul
Carmelina
The Fields of Ambrosia
Here's Love
King of Hearts
High Society
Cry-Baby
The Goodbye Girl
Smile
State Fair
Dance of the Vampires
Woman of the Year
Victor/Victoria
Passion
Begin at the beginning and go on till you come to the end: then stop.
Updated On: 7/26/09 at 04:56 PM
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Stage Door Sally
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joined:6/4/09
re: Failed Movie to Musicals
Posted: 7/26/09 at 05:05pm
Speaking of Throughly Modern Millie...

I'm still greatly disappointed it beat out Urinetown (which I found to be original and highly entertaining) for a Tony for best musical...

But now to hear on top of all that it was a financial flop... ouch.

Does anyone know if Urinetown was a flop or a hit?
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Smaxie
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re: Failed Movie to Musicals
Posted: 7/26/09 at 05:06pm
Urinetown made a profit on Broadway.
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Stage Door Sally
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re: Failed Movie to Musicals
Posted: 7/26/09 at 05:07pm
Good!

Thanks
Byron Abens
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re: Failed Movie to Musicals
Posted: 7/26/09 at 05:35pm
In terms of flops and hits I prefer to go based more on the criteria Ken Mandelbaum used in determining what shows he would cover in "Not Since Carrie." I don't have the book with me, but I remember at least some of the aspects he also looked at were critical reception, audience reception, the length of the run, and the show's life after Broadway on the road, amongst regional, educational, and community theatres.

To often we hear complaints about the crass commercialization of Broadway, but then we only use the term hit if something makes back its initial investment and apply the term flop to everything else, thus classifying Broadway only by its most commercial aspect.
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Mr Roxy
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re: Failed Movie to Musicals
Posted: 7/26/09 at 06:08pm
Here is a 2 way one

Grand Hotel became At The Grand which closed out of town. It was than resurrected by Tommie Tune & it made it

A full blown one Gone With the Wind
Cynicism is an unpleasant way of saying the truth - Lillian Hellman.
Jon
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joined:2/20/04
re: Failed Movie to Musicals
Posted: 7/26/09 at 06:12pm
Has no one mentioned Light in the Piazza?
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blaxx
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re: Failed Movie to Musicals
Posted: 7/26/09 at 06:17pm
It was non for profit, it doesn't count.
Listen, I don't take my clothes off for anyone, even if it is "artistic". - JANICE
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blaxx
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re: Failed Movie to Musicals
Posted: 7/26/09 at 06:20pm
To often we hear complaints about the crass commercialization of Broadway, but then we only use the term hit if something makes back its initial investment and apply the term flop to everything else, thus classifying Broadway only by its most commercial aspect.

It makes perfect sense to me, as it is the only objective way to determine the success of a specific production.

Everything else is up for debate, but there's no in between with people investing a certain amount of money and the show making this money back or not.

Some people take it personally when their favorite show is labeled a "flop", but this has nothing to do with the quality of the production or the show itself, it just means that the specific production didn't make it financially.

I'd say a lot of the best shows I've seen Broadway have been flops.
Listen, I don't take my clothes off for anyone, even if it is "artistic". - JANICE
Updated On: 7/26/09 at 06:20 PM
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dramadude2
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re: Failed Movie to Musicals
Posted: 7/26/09 at 07:35pm
if grey gardens counts because it drew from the documentary, shouldn't Carrie count since it drew from the movie.

THIS IS RHETORICAL DONT ANSWER!!!

No but seriously, it's okay to answer.
No one wants to see a musical called Thoroughly Modern Mildred.

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