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Posted by dyland 2013-01-22 15:14:39


Previews start this Friday,so making a preview thread ok, ok

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Posted by CockeyedOptimist2 2013-01-22 15:18:22


Really looking forward to seeing this soon! Also looking forward to how quickly the naysayers find this thread and predict the show's failure before anyone has seen it.

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Posted by Younger Brother 2013-01-22 15:23:04


I cannot wait to hear Victoria's "There is music in you"!

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Posted by broadwaydevil 2013-01-22 15:24:20


Previews start Thursday, not Friday. I won't be back in New York in time to see this during previews but I look forward to reading comments once previews begin. Is anyone going to the dress rehearsal tomorrow?

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Posted by jacobsnchz14 2013-01-22 15:26:09


Very interested in hearing what changes have been made to the book...

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Posted by wdwfreak 2013-01-22 15:47:31


broadwaydevil- Previews are starting Friday, January 25th.

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Posted by dyland 2013-01-22 15:47:54


No, they moved it by one day.

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Posted by dyland 2013-01-22 15:49:03


I wonder what the stage/set is going to look like!

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Posted by broadwaydevil 2013-01-22 15:49:36


Ah, thank you for the clarification.

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Posted by SondheimFan5 2013-01-22 16:10:03


Any set photos yet?

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Posted by bwayphreak234 2013-01-22 17:21:29


Based on the designer interviews on the show's website, the design concept is an enchanted forest. Anna Louizos said in the interview that the set is all one level, and it consists of lots of arches and pillars that rotate, move around, and reassemble. In other words, the design sounds nothing short of brilliant. I can't wait to hear more about it from those lucky ducks attending the first preview!

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Posted by ohjustjake 2013-01-22 17:23:44


I have a friend in this so I might try to grab a ticket for this Friday somehow.

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Posted by E.Davis 2013-01-22 17:33:17


What are the additional songs and who are they sung by?

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Posted by dramamama611 2013-01-22 17:38:24


Cockeyed--they aren't any more annoying than those that are predetermined to love it without reservation.

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Posted by JohnyBroadway 2013-01-22 17:46:13


Is " The Sweetest Sounds" in this production?

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Posted by RaisedOnMusicals 2013-01-22 17:57:32


Previews start Friday, not Thursday. There is an invited dress on Thursday night.

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Posted by kyl3fong2 2013-01-22 18:18:06


I was reading about the glass slippers Laura Osnes wears via The New Yorker, and was wondering if there has been any photos released of the shoes? Apparently they're made of Swarovski crystals...

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Posted by Cupid Boy2 2013-01-22 18:22:58


When they performed on Fox, Laura lifted up her dress for a moment in the beginning to show her shoes. You only see them from a distance, but it's better than nothing.If I weren't on my phone, I would post the link to the YouTube video.



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Posted by macnyc 2013-01-23 10:44:32


TDF members: Some Cinderella tickets for mid-week are listed.

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Posted by WhatIWasBorn2Do 2013-01-23 11:20:03


^ Thanks! When is a rush policy usually announced for shows? Should we expect one before Friday?

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Posted by finebydesign 2013-01-23 11:45:38


I know I've been a critical about the relevance, and timing of the show as well as the marketing. But this morning! This morning! I saw a TV Ad. Unfortunately it was some crappy flash animation of the logo.

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Posted by CockeyedOptimist2 2013-01-23 12:57:17


Thanks for the heads up on TDF. I snagged a ticket for next Wednesday night and can't wait!

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Posted by dyland 2013-01-23 15:44:59


Sooooooooooooooooooooo does anyone know who's covering Osnes and Clark and Fontana yet?

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Posted by Wynbish 2013-01-23 15:48:17


I wouldn't mind covering Fontana...

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Posted by dyland 2013-01-23 15:51:35


omg same here

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Posted by Wynbish 2013-01-23 15:53:41


Like a slut slanket.

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Posted by jetts7 2013-01-23 20:05:39


I can't wait to see the show! I got a ticket form TDF to the show on January 29. Laura Osnes is brilliant!

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Posted by shrekster224 2013-01-23 20:18:45


Cody Williams is covering the Prince and Jean-Michel, and I believe Andy Jones is the other Prince understudy. Someone in another thread said Alyssa Neeck is the understudy for Cinderella. Best guess for the Fairy Godmother understudy is Linda Mugleston, as the rest of the ensemble is much younger.

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Posted by Younger Brother 2013-01-24 16:13:13


Is anyone going to the invited dress tonight?

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Posted by RaisedOnMusicals 2013-01-24 18:33:11


Well, if anyone is and are also comfortable telling us what they think, I hope they will. I do understand that many don't feel right commenting on an invited dress.

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Posted by Wynbish 2013-01-24 19:08:32


Santino's invited to my undress.

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Posted by dyland 2013-01-24 19:11:06


Ohhhhhhhh!

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Posted by jacobsnchz14 2013-01-24 19:39:47




Photo from Tumblr of a piece of the set from this evening's invited dress...

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Posted by dyland 2013-01-24 19:39:53


wow, looking on Instagram, im kinda dissapointed with the show curtain. its a bunch of cardboard trees. no curtain. ugh

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Posted by ucjrdude902 2013-01-24 20:13:37


By all means that is a VERY small glimpse into this show but so far…not impressed.

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Posted by fingerlakessinger 2013-01-24 21:18:34


Am I missing something? It's one picture.
If you are referring to the costumes and such...weren't they still works in progress?

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Posted by ucjrdude902 2013-01-24 21:22:45


Yes kid. I am referring to the one picture. If those trees are the stage as soon as the show starts, I'm not impressed.

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Posted by fingerlakessinger 2013-01-24 21:26:47


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Posted by bwayphreak234 2013-01-24 22:00:33


Calm down everyone! It's a partial shot of the preshow set up...

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Posted by ljay889 2013-01-24 22:07:27


im kinda dissapointed with the show curtain. its a bunch of cardboard trees. no curtain. ugh

HUH???

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Posted by Brave Sir Robin2 2013-01-24 22:08:39


I kind of like it. I think it's pretty different and I'm interested to see the rest of the set and the show itself.

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Posted by Kelly2 2013-01-24 23:19:50


Commenting on an invited dress is so rude. Honestly, show some respect.

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Posted by Scott Briefer 2013-01-24 23:20:30


I doubt very highly that the trees shown in the provided photo are made from cardboard. I suspect you meant to imply that they appeared "flat"?

Either way, judgement much?

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Posted by bwayphreak234 2013-01-24 23:39:33


I am so very eager to read some thoughts on this starting tomorrow night!

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Posted by GardenOfEden 2013-01-25 00:00:08


I was at the final dress and would normally not comment...call me a shill if you want, but f*** it, I LOVED IT.

It pretty much reminded me why I love musical theater. It was magical, romantic, and beautiful. Nothing was over produced, over staged, or over played. Just classic Rodgers and Hammerstein for a 2013 audience. The book had been updated a bit and felt completely classic with a modern sensibility. The cast was as solid as you could get. It's as charming as you could possibly want.

Like, I would go as far to say that if you don't like this production (assuming they make a few tweaks here and there during previews...act two could use a little nip and tuck) you probably shouldn't be involved in the world of musical theater. They don't make them like this anymore...and the creatives did a great job of presenting it to today's audience. I LOVED IT!

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Posted by Visceral_Fella 2013-01-25 00:12:55


The trees interest me. Makes me want to see what they do with them especially if they're a curtain.

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Posted by bwayphreak234 2013-01-25 00:23:08


GardenOfEden- How were the scenery and special effects?! And the cast?

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Posted by SamIAm2 2013-01-25 00:56:41


GardenOfEden, thank you so much.

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Posted by JohnyBroadway 2013-01-25 00:57:29


How are the Orchestrations? One memorable thing from the last production of Cinderella, were Andrew Lippas arrangements and Orchestrations. Have they gone the traditional or modern route with it? And is the sweetest sounds in this version?

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Posted by broadwaydevil 2013-01-25 01:25:47


Will everyone calm down? There has been exactly one INVITED dress and it's extremely poor form to give specifics out or answer any questions anyone here has been asking. Previews start in 18 hours. I think we can all wait that out.

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Posted by blaxx 2013-01-25 02:02:17


I would go as far to say that if you don't like this production ... you probably shouldn't be involved in the world of musical theater.

Oh, please...

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Posted by cdgunzz97 2013-01-25 08:56:00



Here's a better picture.

One thing I noticed is that this seems to be the first out of a million shows at the Broadway Theater that isn't covering the proscenium. Just an observation.



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Posted by suestorm 2013-01-25 08:57:33


GARDENOFEDEN, cdgunzz97, How was LAURA???

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Posted by cdgunzz97 2013-01-25 08:58:47


Oh sorry, I didn't clarify, I just found that picture on Tumblr. I didn't go to the invited dress.

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Posted by jacobsnchz14 2013-01-25 08:59:42




From Tumblr... Is this a piece of the set and a costume of Laura's?

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Posted by Pammylicious 2013-01-25 09:43:08


how do you put up a photo? there's a cast picture on Facebook I want to post.

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Posted by jacobsnchz14 2013-01-25 09:46:52


Grab the photo URL and just paste it in the message box.

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Posted by Wynbish 2013-01-25 09:47:16


Right click on the picture to get the picture's URL (maybe under Properties), then post the URL directly in the message box or in the "Optional Image" box.

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Posted by Pammylicious 2013-01-25 09:49:17


https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=329909527120081&set=a.309902969120737.69371.220944614683240&type=1&theater

Tried it this is what I get

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Posted by ucjrdude902 2013-01-25 09:51:47


You know that old, costumes have changed and everyone has seen it right?

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Posted by Wynbish 2013-01-25 09:52:49






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Posted by Pammylicious 2013-01-25 09:57:24


Thanks I can't wait until I see this on 2/20

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Posted by Wynbish 2013-01-25 09:59:47


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Posted by Kelly2 2013-01-25 10:02:54


Wow, it's really pretty gross for someone to post a photo from an invited dress, let alone post a review as GardenofEden has done.

The reason your tickets are free is because it's supposed to be a night to show support for a new work and enjoy it with people within the community, not to preemptively dissect it on a message board. Your tickets were a courtesy, the least you can do in return is be respectful of the production.

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Posted by RaisedOnMusicals 2013-01-25 10:54:36


Obviously, it's natural for people here to want to know anything and everything about this show, but it's worth pointing out that on All That Chat (am I allowed to mention that here?) it's a violation of the Terms of Service to post anything at all about an invited dress, for precisely the reason expressed above. If someone does, the post will be deleted and their account will likely be suspended.

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Posted by finebydesign 2013-01-25 11:03:27


"it's a violation of the Terms of Service to post anything at all about an invited dress"

LOL why do they (All that Chat) care? If you sign a non-disclosure I understand, but why is it site's job to police. Shouldn't the production be complaining?

BWW actually reposts Reidel rumors about shows (as "breaking news") that are just suggestions. I don't understand why people on here get certain "bees" in their bonnets and not others. It's 2012 Broadway has to adapt, if the show sucks it sucks. Word-of-mouth is not something you don't want.

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Posted by Kelly2 2013-01-25 11:16:24


"It's 2012 Broadway has to adapt, if the show sucks it sucks. Word-of-mouth is not something you don't want."

And that's fine, if someone pays for a ticket and sees a show, it's their right to say whatever it is they have to say about it. But when your ticket is free and for a performance that everyone knows is for the industry and to support the show it's really just a dick move to be disrespectful and run your mouth. Sorry, there are conditions for going to a show when you are invited or comped in. When I accept comps from work, it is made quite clear that there are certain conditions and standards of behavior to be upheld. That's how it is. If you can't handle shutting your mouth for one day, maybe you shouldn't go.

I promise, people can wait 24 hours before hearing about the show. Some BroadwayWorld poster is not some messenger from a faraway land, bearing all-important news that we absolutely MUST know at this minute. Calm down.

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Posted by SNAFU 2013-01-25 11:19:30


Ummmmm How is Gardenofeden's post Not showing support of the production Kelly2? I could see the point if it was a "I hate it the show sucked dead money Azz but it was far from that. ANY word of mouth, specially positive will be more then likely celebrated by Producers and all involved.

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Posted by Kelly2 2013-01-25 11:24:01


The content of the review is irrelevant. The point is it's inappropriate to discuss in any detail at this point. Why do you think offices that comp out tickets and provide tickets to invited dress rehearsals usually specifically state that you are not to discuss the performance on line at all, you are not to criticize any aspect of it while you are at the production, you must not leave at intermission, etc. If you pay for your ticket, then it's a completely different ballgame, but when you are an invited guest for whatever reason, there are standards of behavior.

I can't tell if people here are really that ungrateful for favors paid to them or just have no experience in dealing with these things.

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Posted by finebydesign 2013-01-25 11:30:44


Years ago I had the good fortune to attend several invited dresses. I've also worked on bway shows from the production side.

Sure there was an understanding that the production process was supposed to be mostly a "secret," but invited dress was for family members and to put the show on in front of a real audience. We had no control over those people and though we it was made clear what they were seeing was not a final product, we never said not to tweet or talk about it.

If your show sucks, it sucks. Most shows have out-of-town tryouts so talking about an invited dress just doesn't matter. Golden rule of business never try to stymie word of mouth. EVER.

Look at Spiderman! That show was talked about for YEARS! Somehow, that buzz became a solid marketing tool. This show needs people talking about it.


BTW, on my way to the subway today I saw an average guy, a dad (let's say). Eyeing the full-page Cinderella ad on the back of an AM New York. He spent a lot of time looking at it, I found that interesting. I'm really interested in how and how they are selling this show to.

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Posted by Kelly2 2013-01-25 11:32:50


Meh. I find it very distasteful. I think people can really wait a few days, honestly. Is it really going to kill anyone or cause them physical pain to not hear how omg star spangled sparkly awesome Laura Osnes' dress is for another day?

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Posted by beautywickedlover 2013-01-25 11:54:45


The photo of the trees reminds me of 'Into the Woods'. I love this musical and as much as I would like to read spoilers tonight i think I am going to wait till preview clips and critic reviews are released. I am planning on seeing the show this May.

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Posted by suestorm 2013-01-25 12:01:10


i agree with your premise KELLY that a dress rehearsal shouldnt be reviewed... but i dont think anyone has done that here, there are no, Laura was amazing, Santino sucked, the plot was all over the place, the songs were great. Lighten up! and i mean this in a nice way

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Posted by Zarkana2 2013-01-25 13:12:12


For those interested, here is the full cast w/ understudies:

Principals
Ella, Cinderella – Laura Osnes
Topher, The Prince – Santino Fontana
Marie, The Fairy Godmother – Victoria Clark
Madame, Cinderela’s Stepmother – Harriet Harris
Sebastian – Peter Barlett
Charlotte – Ann Harada
Jean-Michel – Greg Hildreth
Gabrielle – Marla Mindelle
Lord Pinkleton – Phumzile Sojola

Ensemble (primary role(s) noted): Jill Abramovitz (Ensemble), Kristine Bendul (Ensemble), Heidi Giberson (Ensemble), Stephanie Gibson (Ensemble), Shonica Gooden (Ensemble), Kendal Hartse (Ensemble), Robert Hartwell (Ensemble), Laura Irion (Ensemble), Andy Jones (Ensemble), Andy Mills (Footman, Ensemble), Linda Mugleston (Ensemble), Peter Nelson (Woodland Creature, Ensemble), Nick Spangler (Ensemble), Cody Williams (Driver, Ensemble), Branch Woodman (Ensemble), Kevin Worley (Ensemble).

Understudies: Understudy for Ella - Heidi Giberson, Alessa Neeck. For The Prince - Andy Jones, Nick Spangler, Cody Williams. For Marie - Jill Abramvotiz, Linda Mugleston. For Madame - Jill Abramvotiz, Linda Mugleston. For Sebastian - Branch Woodman, Phumzile Sojola. For Charlotte - Stephanie Gibson, Laura Irion. For Jean-Michel - Cody Williams, Kevin Worley. For Gabrielle - Stephanie Gibson, Kendal Hartse. For Lord Pinkleton - Branch Woodman, Kevin Worley. For Woodland Creature - Drew Franklin, Adam Jepsen. For Footman - Drew, Adam Jepsen. For Driver - Drew Franklin, Adam Jepsen.

Swings: Drew Franklin, Adam Jepsen, Alessa Neeck, Kirstin Tucker.
Dance Captain: Drew Franklin

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Posted by CATSNYrevival 2013-01-25 13:41:42


Is there a song list yet?

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Posted by SNAFU 2013-01-25 13:53:47


I find it distatseful to attack someone who finds a dress rehearsal amazing and says so.
Pull the stick out or it will become infected.

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Posted by Kelly2 2013-01-25 13:59:39


"I find it distatseful to attack someone who finds a dress rehearsal amazing and says so.
Pull the stick out or it will become infected."

Keep yapping about things that aren't supposed to be yapped about and I'm sure one would find themselves invited to many fewer of these special events.

I would, however, love to hear from anyone seeing the tonight what kind of shape it's in. :)

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Posted by beautywickedlover 2013-01-25 14:11:43


Entertainment Weekly did an article about the Glass Slippers being designed for the show.




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Posted by ohjustjake 2013-01-25 14:23:00


I figured I would post this here, but I stopped by the box office to see if they were doing any rush tickets for tonight and the box office woman told that they weren't. She said they would be on weekdays only (although she then said Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday...), I think 1 per ID, and that we'd have to make a line for them but that we weren't guaranteed to get them if the show is sold out? She didn't tell me what time though, if they were sold when the BO opened or later.

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Posted by RaisedOnMusicals 2013-01-25 16:27:52


So with all of the talk about reporting on an invited dress, is anyone actually going to the first preview tonight who'll be able to give us a full account?

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Posted by jetts7 2013-01-25 17:40:58


I am so excited for this show!

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Posted by Paul W. Thompson 2013-01-25 19:37:51


I am going, but I work for BroadwayWorld so I can't really say anything!

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Posted by Scottsacto 2013-01-25 20:40:47


I am expecting that Whizzer is there--and we will get a full Report Later!

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Posted by AntV 2013-01-25 22:09:58


set at intermission, from instagram

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Posted by Pammylicious 2013-01-25 22:10:53


I love it!

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Posted by CATSNYrevival 2013-01-25 23:01:19


No one has a song list yet?

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Posted by Pammylicious 2013-01-25 23:05:12


I think there must have been some tech issues because the posting of that photo was a 10:04. I doubt the first act was two hours. I may be wrong but it's surely not a three hour show. I think.

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Posted by jacobsnchz14 2013-01-25 23:42:06


Unless they took the pics and posted it after the show, I guess... Looks nice...

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Posted by SamIAm2 2013-01-25 23:50:18


Broadway.com says on Twitter, "Congrats on an amazing first night."

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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-01-25 23:58:25


They don't make them like this anymore.

I think it's silly to say that about a show with an entirely new book and interpolated songs.

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Posted by CATSNYrevival 2013-01-26 00:08:11


^Exactly. They make them like that all the time now.

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Posted by secondstar2theright 2013-01-26 00:10:17


I am loving this stage!

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Posted by Visceral_Fella 2013-01-26 00:34:23


I'm surprised that we don't have a more detailed report about this yet.

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Posted by After Eight 2013-01-26 00:38:09


"Impossible things are happening every day."

That's what Oscar Hammerstein told us.

But I'm sure that neither he nor Richard Rodgers could have ever thought it possible to transform their beautiul classic into a bloated, misguided, lame social tract.

But it's possible.

This show bills itself as "Rodgers and Hammerstein's Cinderella." Then what was the other one, I'd like to know.

As to be expected, the interpolated songs don't mix well with the original ones. They protract, rather than add.

The design struck me as none too attractive. Fairly forlorn. The costumes are a mixed bag, some nice ones, others less so. There were a few deft visual effects, and a chase through the woods had the requisite magic lacking elsewhere.
Anachronistic jokes, natch.

The two leads did a very good job.

I'm very sorry they cut out the wonderful wedding processional. An unfortunate choice, among so many others here.

The show ended at about 10:50.



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Posted by degrassifan 2013-01-26 00:44:07


Oh my! Sounds like you didn't like it.

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Posted by Wynbish 2013-01-26 00:44:48


.... Yay for Santino!

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Posted by SamIAm2 2013-01-26 00:45:36


How were the leads' performances?

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Posted by Blockhead24 2013-01-26 00:47:46


after 8 didn't like something?? i'm shocked

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Posted by After Eight 2013-01-26 00:49:36


Sam,

Very good.

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Posted by Wynbish 2013-01-26 00:50:12


So, how is the Prince characterized?

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Posted by CATSNYrevival 2013-01-26 00:53:49


What interpolated songs?!? What's the song list?

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Posted by SamIAm2 2013-01-26 01:04:05


Thanks, After Eight.

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Posted by After Eight 2013-01-26 01:08:47


Wynbish,

He's an amiable sort, but totally unaware of the social injustice in his kingdom. Both his parents are dead, and his bad-guy minister is running the place.

Cats,

Don't have a scanner, and too tired to copy all the songs, singers, etc. I'll just have to give you the titles.

Act 1

Overture- Orchestra
Me, Who Am I? - Topher, Sebastian, Lord Pinkleton, Knights, Pages
In My Own Little Corner - Ella
Now Is the Time- Jean-Michel
The Prince Is Giving a Ball - Lord Pinkleton, Townspeople, Madame, Charlotte, Gabrielle, Ella, Marie
I Have Loved and I've Learned - Madame, Charlotte, Gabrielle
In My Own Little Corner (reprise)/ Fol-de-Rol - Ella, Marie
Impossible - Marie, Ella
It's Possible - Marie, Ella
Gavotte - (Dance)
Ten Minutes Ago - Topher, Ella
Waltz for a Ball - Orchestra
Ten Minutes Ago (reprise)- Topher, Ella, Lords ahd Ladies

Act II


Entr'acte - Orchestra
Stepsister's Lament (only one stepsister (Charlotte) sings this with ladies of the court)
The Pursuit - Topher, Lord Pinkleton, Lords, Pages, Ella, Footman, Driver
When You're Diving Through the Moonlight - Ella, Madame, Chatlotte, Gabrielle
A Lovely Night - Ella, Madame, Charlotte, Gabrielle
A Lovely Night (reprise) - Ella, Gabrielle
Loneliness of Evening - Topher, Ella
The Prince Is Giving a Ball (reprise) - Sebastian, Lord Pinkleyon, Heralds, Madame
I Haven't Got a Worry in the World - Gabrielle, Jean-Michel
There's Music in You - Marie
Your Majesty: Dance - Court Entertainers
Now Is the Time - Ella, Topher, Jean-Michel, Gabrielle, Maie, Peasants
Do I Love You Because Your'e Beautiful? - Topher, Ella
Ten Minutes Ago (reprise) - Topher, Ella, The Company
Finale - Marie, The Company



Hope this helps. 'Night.












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Posted by ucjrdude902 2013-01-26 01:10:57


Do shows usually try to rework flaws during previews or is it pretty much set?

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Posted by SamIAm2 2013-01-26 01:20:50


Here's a good article on Heidi Giberson, who understudies Cinderella.

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Posted by Brave Sir Robin2 2013-01-26 01:28:03


I'm surprised that they didn't add in Falling In Love With Love or The Sweetest Sounds.

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Posted by EgermanArmfelt 2013-01-26 01:30:38


Definitely bummed about no "Falling in Love with Love". It really added another depth to the stepmother.

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Posted by bwayphreak234 2013-01-26 01:30:59


^ I'm surprised as well... and very disappointed :/

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Posted by fingerlakessinger 2013-01-26 01:31:43


I'm kinda sad they didn't include either of those also. Especially "The Sweetest Sounds"
Personally, I think their target audience is the 20 somethings. And we grew up with the Brandi Cinderella, which had that song in it. And that song tends to be the one that a lot of us know.

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Posted by ucjrdude902 2013-01-26 01:33:50


I talked to a friend tonight who went. He didn't hate it but wasn't impressed. We predict they'll quickly see whats not working and what people aren't liking and try to fix what they can this late in the game.

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Posted by degrassifan 2013-01-26 01:37:00


I wasn't expecting them to add Falling in Love with Love or The Sweetest Sounds because those aren't technically songs by both Rodgers and Hammerstein. It would have been nice, but I'm not surprised at all.

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Posted by CATSNYrevival 2013-01-26 01:38:24


I'll miss "The Sweetest Sounds" too. I'm still a little perplexed as to why they didn't just use the Tom Briggs libretto. It's shorter, sweeter, and from the looks of it, a little more faithful to the actual Rodgers and Hammerstein Cinderella.

I'm also surprised that they're interpolating "Now is the Time." Even if they're using new lyrics, that music is still in the underscore for South Pacific. It's not like "Loneliness of Evening" which was cut entirely.

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Posted by degrassifan 2013-01-26 01:48:15


"I'm still a little perplexed as to why they didn't just use the Tom Briggs libretto. It's shorter, sweeter, and from the looks of it, a little more faithful to the actual Rodgers and Hammerstein Cinderella."

In my opinion, the Tom Briggs libretto was not Broadway caliber. It was sort of amateaurish in my opinion. If you're going to bring Cinderella on Broadway for the first time, I expected that there would be a whole new book. Plus, its shortness was probably another reason why it could not have been used. Again, just my opinion.

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Posted by bwayphreak234 2013-01-26 01:50:40


I hope we get some more reviews soon... I especially curious about the set design.

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Posted by degrassifan 2013-01-26 01:55:30


Just from the song list alone, does Act One end in the middle of the ball? And, I'm guessing Charlotte is the one stepsister who sings Stepsister's Lament, given that Charlotte is supposed to be meaner than Gabrielle (just like in the Perrault story). Also, does this version have two balls? I noticed that Prince is Giving a Ball has a reprise, and since this version follows the Perrault version, which had two balls, then I'm guessing there are two balls in the show? I'm gonna take a wild guess and say that Now Is the Time is sung by Jean-Michel because he is supposed to be a revolutionary rebel, and the title of the song sounds like something a revolutionary rebel would sing.

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Posted by Scarywarhol 2013-01-26 02:04:22


I'd trust almost any honestly critical report if it weren't from a contemptuously cynical queen like After Eight.

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Posted by NicoleMWright2 2013-01-26 02:30:49


To answer the questions of degrassifan, Act One ends right after the stroke of midnight when she runs from the ball. There is a ball and then a banquet the next night in an attempt for the Prince to find the woman he met the night before.. And the Lament is sung by Charlotte and the female ensemble.

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Posted by RippedMan 2013-01-26 02:31:06


I'm not impressed with that design. Looks like a high school production, honestly.

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Posted by JohnyBroadway 2013-01-26 02:47:27


Bummed to see that sweetest sounds is not in this version of the show, but it looks to me like it wouldn't have worked with the approach, that they wanted to take in this Broadway revamping.

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Posted by degrassifan 2013-01-26 02:47:36


"To answer the questions of degrassifan, Act One ends right after the stroke of midnight when she runs from the ball. There is a ball and then a banquet the next night in an attempt for the Prince to find the woman he met the night before.. And the Lament is sung by Charlotte and the female ensemble."

Thank you! That's what I figured. After Eight has act one ending after Ten Minutes Ago reprise, but it actually ends after The Pursuit. I think it was smart to add the banquet idea from the Perrault story as a way to expand the second act.

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Posted by WiCkEDrOcKS 2013-01-26 03:16:16


....What the hell? Why isn't the "Lament" performed by both Stepsisters? Weird.

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Posted by Eris0303 2013-01-26 03:31:10


I've been trying in vain to get tickets to the evening show on 3/2. Hope they release more tickets soon

What the hell? Why isn't the "Lament" performed by both Stepsisters? Weird.

As I understand it Gabrielle has her own love story in the show. I would imagine the creative team doesn't want the audience to dislike her too much.

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Posted by Younger Brother 2013-01-26 04:14:44


How is the new book?

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Posted by mar6411 2013-01-26 07:16:28


Where's Whizzer's report? I'm disappointed not to see it - I always look forward to reading his after-the-first-preview reports. I guess I've become a fangirl. I hope everything is ok with him.

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Posted by After Eight 2013-01-26 07:59:17


I updated the song list to include the singers.

To answer some random questions:

The Pursuit is indeed in the second act. It's an extended chase through the woods, and was the best thing in the show.

Only one stepsister sings this lament because the other is not interested in the prince.

There were a lot of women in their 20s in the audience. That might indeed be a target audience.

The upper half of the balcony was curtained off.

If both the prince's parents are dead, shouldn't he be the king?





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Posted by Younger Brother 2013-01-26 08:34:20


Can you tell a little about Marie? I remember reading she's the town "crazy" and the fairy godmother. Is she supposed to be the same character or Vicky doubling up on two roles?

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Posted by After Eight 2013-01-26 08:58:20


^

Same character, 2 personae.

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Posted by wicked1492 2013-01-26 10:05:27


Seriously?! This is all we've got? One expectedly witchy report from After 8 and a few nondescript details? This is so disappointing. I'm losing faith, BWW.

Not to mention how far down on the page this was before I rescued it from obscurity, less than 12 hours after the first preview.



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Posted by RaisedOnMusicals 2013-01-26 10:18:26


Part of me feels the way you do, but part of me thinks that it might be a good thing that we're not getting all excited by the first preview, one way or the other. I mean, this is a work in progress, it doesn't open until March 3, so maybe holding judgment at this point is not all bad.

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Posted by dramamama611 2013-01-26 10:21:49


Oh, please.

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Posted by wicked1492 2013-01-26 10:35:00


Yeah, um, ok, nope. No thanks. Lets fight the urge to hold any of the judgment.

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Posted by SamIAm2 2013-01-26 11:23:32


"Part of me feels the way you do, but part of me thinks that it might be a good thing that we're not getting all excited by the first preview, one way or the other. I mean, this is a work in progress, it doesn't open until March 3, so maybe holding judgment at this point is not all bad."

Hallelujah.

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Posted by degrassifan 2013-01-26 11:53:50


Just from the song list alone, it sounds like an interesting retelling of Cinderella. i would love to see it! Like I said in another thread, this version seems like a combination of various other Cinderella stories (R&H Cinderella, Perrault's Cinderella, Ever After, Ella Enchanted, and a little bit of The Slipper and the Rose).

I guess "I've Loved and I've Learned," which was cut from Sound of Music, is this version's "Falling in Love with Love" since it's sung by the step family?

Also, a prince having dead parents but not being king himself is nothing new. In The Little Mermaid, Eric was a prince even though his parents were dead. In Beauty and the Beast, we assume that the Prince's parents are dead but he isn't king. In the movie version of Ella Enchanted, Prince's Char's parents are dead, but he is not king. Instead, his greedy uncle (much like Sebastian in this new production) is ruling the kingdom and wants the crown for himself.

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Posted by defyingravity11 2013-01-26 12:59:46


I was at the invited dress, but wanted to hold off on commenting until the show began public performances. I actually loved the design and I don't think the pics do it justice. William Ivey Long has created some old school theater magic with the transformations, one of which actually made me gasp.

As for the writing, the score is beautifully orchestrated and sung. I quite liked the book by Douglas Carter Beane. It felt modern and fresh and cohesive with the overall vision for this production. I don't want to give too much away, but I think it's difficult to judge the quality of the entire production on a song list and a few low grade photos.

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Posted by SondheimFan5 2013-01-26 14:12:14


Anyone want to post the orchestra list/instrumentation? And how are the new arrangements?

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Posted by chanel 2013-01-26 14:25:03


And how is Harriet Harris? Victoria Clark? And Ann Harada? They're all usually scene stealers.

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Posted by CopyThatNYC2 2013-01-26 14:33:01


The Orchestration by Danny Troob is as follows:

Reed 1: Flute/Piccolo/Alto Flute
Reed 2: Clarinet
Reed 3: Oboe/English Horn
Reed 4: Bassoon/Clarinet/Flute
Horns 1 & 2
Trumpets 1 & 2
Trombone
Drums
Percussion
Harp
Keyboard (Synth)
Violins (4)
Viola (1)
Cello (1)
Bass (1)

The new arrangements are by Davis Chase.

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Posted by bwayphreak234 2013-01-26 14:46:21


Soo can anyone report on the sets and special effects? Please? :-/

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Posted by SamIAm2 2013-01-26 15:50:04


I'd also love to hear about Laura & Santino's performances, please.

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Posted by Lefou 2013-01-26 16:20:11


I was there last night. And this is the show to beat this season. Everything fell into place. At first I was convinced that the Broadway was going to be way to big of a house, but this show felt right at home. Of course there is some trimming and tightening to be done (but keep in mind, it's a first preview). But I'll start with the performances...(Note: SPOILERS)

Laura Osnes was born to sing this music. It flows so easily through her entire body. From her first entrance she IS Cinderella. It's a flawless performance.

Santino Fontana. This boy can do anything, I swear. He is charming, quirky, awkward, endearing and the perfect Prince for this version.

Vicki Clark: She begins the show as "Marie, the Town Crazy", she mutters, and is in a worn dirty cloak. Sort of reminds me of the costume of the Witch in ITW. But when Cinderella shows her kindness, she turns into her Fairy Godmother. She flies, she transforms costumes, it's an incredible performance. And her rendition of THE MUSIC IN YOU is breath taking.

Peter Bartlett: HAM. Such a fun performance. He has the best line readings in the show. He's the Prince's advisor (and "Villain" of the piece)

Ann Harada & Marla Mindelle: Wonderful performances by each. Marla has the more involved role, but Ann gets the Step Sister's Lament which is shared with the ensemble women

Harriet Harris: Giving a GREAT performance here. She is the perfect parts evil and wickedly funny. Not a whole lot to do, but a good use of her talents.

The set and costumes are incredible. William Ivey Long does NOT dissappoint (does he ever?) I do not want to spoil the transformations, but they are pretty ingenious, and once all the kinks are worked out, they will work flawlessly. There were noticeable gasps from the audience.

It is a modernization of sorts, and shows Cinderella as a strong woman who wants to see a change in the world. It's a show that the kids will enjoy and that adults will also enjoy because of the political jokes. I had so much fun.

We see all the transformations on stage. Cinderella changing (multiple times) into dresses, the pumpkin, the slippers.

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Posted by dramamama611 2013-01-26 16:26:50


Lefou -- your words may have just swayed me to see this. I am not a fan of R&H's Cinderella, so just wasn't interested. Now I'm thinking about it.

Thanks for taking the time.

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Posted by Pammylicious 2013-01-26 16:29:41


Thanks. Great review but I'm not surprised. Can't wait to see it in three weeks.

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Posted by bwayphreak234 2013-01-26 16:40:43


AHHH so glad to finally have a full review! What was the set like?!

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Posted by Phantom of London 2013-01-26 17:23:34


I was there for todays matinee, just came out, no discounts availble either at the booth, nor through discount code when I tried an hourbefore the performance, I had to bite the bullet.

The 3 leads were very good, as for the show, it isn't in bad shape, but seems to have a touch of jaundice.

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Posted by broadwaydevil 2013-01-26 17:27:30


What do you mean by "political jokes?"

That has me a little nervous as some productions recently think it's humorous to add in random "topical, mature" jokes for "adults" like Wonderland and Godspell to disastrous results. Hopefully DCB hasn't gone the route of insipid humor. Otherwise, your review is very encouraging!

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Posted by suestorm 2013-01-26 18:09:19


Thank you Lefou and Phantom fo your greatr reviews. Its nice to hear from people who have actually seen it and loved it rather then the know it alls who have comically
slammed it with out ever seeing anything but a song at the parade

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Posted by little_sally 2013-01-26 19:07:42


Was there this afternoon and overall really enjoyed it. I think the cast is all uniformly great but the second act drags (the show ended at about 4:45ish, so it's a bit long right now). The political stuff does not work at all (at one point I felt like I was watching Evita) and brings the show down. However, the magic and the spectacle of the show is wonderful, Victoria Clark sounds amazing, and all the little girls dressed up as Cinderella in the audience are adorable.

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Posted by After Eight 2013-01-26 19:31:07


"What do you mean by "political jokes?" "

Actually, it's more than just jokes. It's more like a political tract on to which the plot of Cinderella has been grafted---uneasily. You see, it turns out there's a lot of social injustice in this prince's kingdom, and revolutionary Jean-Michel lets us know all about it ad infinitum. We even get to see the peasants living in poverty. It seems that only the prince is unaware of all this. It takes Cinderella to open his eyes on the matter and initiate reforms.


I didn't find Peter Bartlett or Harriet Harris's roles even remotely funny, and these two gifted comic actors' talents are misused in them. There's nothing campy or funny about this mean stepmother- she's just virulently mean.

The Marie/Fairy Godmather duality didn't work for me, though Victoria Clark was excellent. The Marie caracter was a complete waste. For those who remember the Thanksgiving Day Parade performance, her dress is now different, a billowy pink thing, none too attractive.

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Posted by little_sally 2013-01-26 19:52:07


I know they had to somehow flesh the story out but the political stuff really changes the tone too much and makes it drag.

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Posted by After Eight 2013-01-26 19:58:06


^

Why did they have to "flesh out" the story?

The City Opera presented R&H's Cinderella just as we know it-- with an added song or two -- and it worked just fine.

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Posted by little_sally 2013-01-26 20:02:21


Good point, After Eight. They could really cut it down to like two hours. People are coming for the simple, familiar story of Cinderella.

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Posted by After Eight 2013-01-26 20:20:40


Little Sally,

You raise a very good point about audience expectations.

That should be a paramount concern of all creators and producers.

It's like two recent NY operatic productions of Hansel and Gretel that left out the life-sized gingerbread house in the woods - exactly what people would be expecting to see.

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Posted by yanni335 2013-01-26 22:28:08


Jan 25 - 8pm

I am amazed at how little actual critique has been posted about this adaptation. Let me make this as clear as possible for anyone who is or was interested in seeing the first Broadway production of Cinderella; this is not a production of Rogers & Hammerstein's Cinderella. The simple fact, regardless of how it is advertised, this is an adaptation using the original music.

Revisiting a classic piece and revising for a modern Broadway audience is controversial, but can be exciting. A good adaptation can be just what the doctor ordered for some products of the "golden age". However I would argue, strongly in this case, that "Cinderella" should have been mounted as a combination of the versions that currently exist in the public domain. The words that comes to mind when thinking about this adaptation are presumptuous and arrogant.
The addition and subtraction of story components was not necessary for this piece. Having seen and produced the show I can confidently say that the book holds up as strongly today as it ever has. While the attraction to add additional pieces must have been tempting, the result is something that felt as though the audience is watching a show that was written by someone who admired the forced comedy of "Spamalot" admired a modern fairytale like "Shrek", felt moved by the moral of "Billy Elliot" and designed by someone who is in love with the design of "Wicked". The entire show felt like a recycled piece of Broadway Bubblegum. Now, a good piece of bubblegum can be a fun two and a half hours; but that is all it will be. "Cinderella" is about love, loss, and life. It's a simple story, it's a classic fairytale, and above all it is a classic work. In a time when Broadway has become a merry-go-round of revivals and cookie cutter shows, this is a classic that has always deserved a Broadway mounting and unfortunately to this day has not had one.
The issues begin with the material and simply spiral out of control. I do not wish to be disrespectful of the professionals who are performing, but I do not feel as though this was the best performance of those onstage. Whether that is the cast or the musical direction is unknown. As an audience member I can say there were strong and weak points vocally. Technically the show is lacking in ways that were unexpected. There were elements that were expected and unfortunately elements that were lacking. On a stage that once had a helicopter land on stage, you would think there would be a castle that truly amazed. The size and scope of the Broadway Theatre's stage can lend to a massive set. This set was far from massive. Were there some special effects that amazed? Yes. Could it have been more? Absolutely. I admire and respect the stagehands that make the magic happen onstage, I just do not like to see them.
There will be people who disagree with this commentary and enjoy the adaptation. This was not the show I wanted to see. I just do not understand the production decisions. Perhaps one day in my lifetime there will be a production of "Rogers and Hammertein's Cinderella"; but for now we have "Cinderella" inspired by Rogers and Hammerstein.



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Posted by RaisedOnMusicals 2013-01-26 22:38:14


To be honest Yanni, I felt that your "review" bordered on the incoherent. I was interested in what you had to say, I just had a very hard time making sense of it.

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Posted by little_sally 2013-01-26 22:39:54


It's also an incredibly vague review.

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Posted by ucjrdude902 2013-01-26 22:43:28


A friend saw the first preview and we texted back and forth about. His general thought: is it a complete mess? No. Is it perfect and Matilda better watch her back at the TONYS. Also no. He just didn't feel like it flowed and the set could have been better because its the Broadway stage which is huge. But like I mentioned last time, he believe there is time to change things without a complete overhaul even though it wouldn't hurt.

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Posted by yanni335 2013-01-26 23:03:04


It was more of an overall commentary or opinion piece of the production. Sorry if it's long winded.

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Posted by bwayphreak234 2013-01-26 23:06:10


What is the set like? Especially for cinderella's house and the palace.

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Posted by little_sally 2013-01-26 23:08:19


The house set is quite lovely but the place is non-existent, save for a few chandeliers during the ball scenes. When Topher is shown in his throne room, it's basically his throne and a tapestry-like backdrop.

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Posted by jeffmiele 2013-01-26 23:43:41


It definitely is far from the original.. But it is its own entity which could hurt it or help it. The original songs are still beautiful. Book needs work and Santino needs a new crown. That's all I really have to say as of now, so early on I'm going to have to go again later in previews.

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Posted by ChairinMain 2013-01-27 00:34:34


I wonder if someone would mind posting some kind of plot synopsis? Is that frowned upon?

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Posted by After Eight 2013-01-27 01:12:33


^

Plot synopsis?

Well, there's the plot of Cinderella. This time one stepsister wants the prince, the other loves a revolutionary. This time the prince's parents are dead, and the evil prime minister is running the kingdom. The fairy godmother now appears sometimes in the guise of a woman in rags. Pumpkin, ball gown, coach, glass slipper, ball, midnight, --- that's all still there.

Then there's the added plot of the desire for social change on the part of the revolutionary and Cinderella; by the end of the evening, political changes are implemented.

Finally, Cinderella and the prince are wed.

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Posted by E.Davis 2013-01-27 10:50:49


I am bummed that they changed Marie's dress, count my as one of the ones who loved the one from the Parade.

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Posted by njbuck 2013-01-27 11:11:17


Sales must be doing well. I went to the box office yesterday to buy tickets and they are no longer accepting any coupons/discounts for weekend performances.

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Posted by FANtomFollies 2013-01-27 11:52:03


what does Marie's dress look like now? Very curious to hear more about costumes/sets and special effects in the show :)

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Posted by gabrieljwickedone 2013-01-27 14:13:55


In the song list posted, Overture is listed.

Is it like a traditional overture? Like 2-4 minutes or just kind of like the melody from In My Own Little Corner like the Asian tour?

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Posted by Mister Matt 2013-01-27 15:05:27


Having seen and produced the show I can confidently say that the book holds up as strongly today as it ever has.

Which is not as flattering a statement as you probably meant it to be. The show has never had a strong book, which is why it couldn't push beyond regional productions and 2nd-tier tours. I'm glad this team made an effort to dig the show out of its perpetual rut as a simple musical for families with young children.

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Posted by defyingravity11 2013-01-27 15:35:49


It's a traditional overture. The entr'acte is fairly short though.

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Posted by Younger Brother 2013-01-27 17:33:38


Can someone elaborate on the special effects? When are they used? How do they look?

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Posted by RaisedOnMusicals 2013-01-27 17:43:07


Why don't you go see the show and decide for yourself? Seriously, isn't this asking how the magician does the trick? They'd no longer be "special effects" would they?

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Posted by Wynbish 2013-01-27 17:51:17


But, it's not asking how they're done. Just what they're like.

And I don't know about Younger Brother, but seeing the show is not probable for some.

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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-01-27 17:55:33


Oh, Wynbish, impossible things are happening ev'ry day!

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Posted by Wynbish 2013-01-27 18:00:19


Impossible?

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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-01-27 18:08:18


It's possible!

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Posted by little_sally 2013-01-27 18:50:11


The effects are lovely but not as elaborate as say the effects in Mary Poppins.

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Posted by Younger Brother 2013-01-28 10:55:28


I'm in Ireland, so the likelihood of be getting to see the show anytime soon, not so great. I was just curious to know exactly where the illusions are in the show (I'm assuming as Marie readies Ella for the ball).

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Posted by WhizzerMarvin TrinaJasonMendel 2013-01-28 23:57:39


I was able to make it to Cinderella tonight, and boy is it rough. It's comforting to know that when one revolutionary departs (Evita), another- Miss Ella the girl of the cinders- is able to rise from the ashes and lead her people to free elections and fair taxes for all!! Screw R&H. If there is one song this production desperately needs more than any other it's "A New Argentina." It practically fits better in this show than Evita anyway.

My biggest complaint is that the show is too damn long. It's almost 3 hours, which is ridiculous. I realize they probably felt that at 75 minutes the show would feel too anemic for Broadway prices, but the solution wasn't to stuff the poor thing till it looked like Monica Geller's fat suit. The first 15 minutes (after the overture) should be cut. There's a stupid battle between a tree ogre thing and the prince, followed by a banal song for the prince. Santino sounds great, but it makes for a slow start and in the end it's all very extraneous stuff.

Then as others have mentioned we have Crazy Marie, the beggar woman. She does her "alms, alms for a miserable woman," routine for a while, and of course Cinderella is the only one who is nice to her. Peter Bartlett is the evil minister who rules the kingdom. He teaches the prince that it's better to give tax cuts to the rich than to the poor. When you start giving out charity everyone shows up for a handout, but best to give the poor something before they revolt and take everything. Basically we have a Mittens redux.

Possibly the biggest misstep is adding the character of Jean-Michel. He is our revolutionary fighting to bring equality to the land. Gabrielle, one of the step-sisters, is secretly in love with him and not evil at all. In the second act Jean-Michel takes Gabrielle to soup kitchen on a date (hey- she likes to ladle), and right when he's about to lead the ensemble in a rousing "We'd Like to Thank You Herbert Hoover" Cinderella and the Prince show up to explain how democracy began in ancient Greece with free elections. Let's have one now!

Because Gabrielle is in love with Jean-Michel, Charlotte (Ann Harada) is forced to sing the Stepsister's Lament with the female ensemble. It's not nearly as funny this way, though Ann tries her best to sell it. Harriet Harris has a very weird step-mother to deal with. Her character is all over the map and has pivotal role to play at the end...

*****SPOILER
She is the one to cast the final vote for the new prime minister and she has a change of heart and opts for Jean-Michel!
*****END SPOILER

The added songs don't do much for show. They make it feel bloated, and as some have noted, they don't mesh very well with the original songs. "I haven't got a Worry in the World" is especially tedious in this over long production.

The cast is the best thing about the show. Laura Osnes is really, really good. She sounds fantastic and does her best with all the social justice stuff. She really would be terrific as Cinderella in "Into the Woods," and I was hoping that would just let her sing "On the Steps of the Palace" to end act one.

Victoria Clark sounds lovely too, and "Impossible" is fun. The dress transformations are great and I liked the pumpkin coach.

I don't know why they just didn't tell the Cinderella story we all know and love. The addition of the political stuff bogged down the piece, and at three hours I just desperately wanted it to be over. I absolutely would never recommend something so long to a family with young children. It's too much, and the Jean-Michel storyline wouldn't hold their interest- it barely held mine.

BTW, the back half the rear mezz has been curtained off. How does that affect the gross potential? Do they count those seats as unsold, or since they were never on sale do they not factor in the percentage?

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Posted by CukorLover 2013-01-29 00:06:20


Finally, someone who could cohesively string three sentences together ! Thanks Whizzer, I always look forward to your insightful reviews.

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Posted by Wynbish 2013-01-29 00:10:12


I love a Whizzer review.

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Posted by dramamama611 2013-01-29 00:16:40


That often implies those tix aren't available for sale and therefore NOT counted as part of the potential.

Thanks for the review, as usual, Whizz!

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Posted by WhizzerMarvin TrinaJasonMendel 2013-01-29 00:17:43


Ha, thanks. I'm sad I had to miss the first preview, but it sounds like not much changed from the early reports.

You know the good news about this show is you could fix it immensely by cutting stuff immediately. I know that can be painful. Many, many hours have been poured into each scene by both the cast and creative team. That isn't a valid reason though for everything to stay in the show.

For example, there's a dance sequence performed by a group of tumblers/court jesters that goes on forever. Nothing against the dancers or the choreography, but cut it. It's unnecessary, unless it's covering some set/costume change, but I don't think that's the case. There's so much extra padding right now and it needs to go.

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Posted by Jungle Red 2013-01-29 00:21:20


Sounds dreadful! Why would kids enjoy this?

There's a term we have in screenwriting. "Kill your babies." Sounds like the bookwriter needs to do some trimming.

Can you post a quick song list? At least, how many songs did they add?

I believe in the original story, one of the stepsisters was an ally and not an enemy.

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Posted by Wynbish 2013-01-29 00:21:27


Jungle, After Eight posted a song list on page 5.



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Posted by broadwaydevil 2013-01-29 00:23:21


A lot of these sound like fixable changes, which I guess is encouraging. I have no idea what DCB and company were doing to possibly make Cinderella three hours long.

I wonder if they're planning on selling the back half of the rear mezzanine after previews since advance is quite strong. I understand the theory of wanting to make the supply more limited to keep prices high, but if they're selling at or near capacity without heavy discounts it doesn't make financial sense to have empty seats curtained off.

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Posted by bwayphreak234 2013-01-29 00:27:14


YES! I have been waiting for Whizzer's review! Your details and thoroughness never cease to fulfill me! What did you think of the set (and how was Cinderella's house done)? And what were some of the special effects that were noteworthy?
Thanks again, Whizzer!

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Posted by Visceral_Fella 2013-01-29 00:30:44


Wow, that sounds like a hot mess. I hope they can get it together. This has such potential.

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Posted by Jungle Red 2013-01-29 00:34:10


Eh. Not really impressed with the song list. I'm all up for social commentary, but who thought it best to add a minister and cut the king and queen?

Who approved this?! My childhood is ruined!

The picture looks like a bad high school production and the shoes are terrible.

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Posted by WhizzerMarvin TrinaJasonMendel 2013-01-29 00:41:11


With this cast it really does have potential, and should be so much better. Laura is going to be dynamite on disc.

Cinderella's house has an exterior, which is basically a porch and front door on stage right, which extends into a front yard with well and stone wall. One weird thing is that Cinderella's stool is on the porch, so that when she sings "In My Own Little Corner" she isn't in a corner at all! She frolics all over the front yard actually.

The interior of the house isn't really much to speak of. It's your typical cottage in the woods. Table, chairs, fireplace...it's pretty nondescript. Money was clearly prioritized to be spent on the costumes and not the sets. The palace is lackluster.

The best effects are the costume changes. It's not really a spoiler, but both Victoria and Laura change costumes VERY quickly a few times. There aren't a ton of special effects though. The effects in Pippin are far more dazzling; Andrea Martin's coup de theatre is in fact more stunning than anything in Cinderella.

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Posted by Visceral_Fella 2013-01-29 00:45:02


Your descriptions are so detailed that I want to see this partly to see if the show is how I'm imagining it.

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Posted by Jungle Red 2013-01-29 00:46:02


I need to find the Disney version and watch that now to lift my spirits.

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Posted by Visceral_Fella 2013-01-29 00:48:14


I'm purposely not watching any of the previous versions until I see this one.

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Posted by JohnyBroadway 2013-01-29 00:49:09


I'll never understand why they never took 2000/2001 production to Broadway? Now that was one magical production. Tom Briggs book captured the soulfulness of the 1997 teleplay. Andrew Lippas arrangements were gorgeous. And let's not forget the cast, Eartha Kitt, Poalo montalbon, Jamie Lynn Siggler, and Everett quinton. When Eartha made her first entrance during the prologue, you knew you were in for a magical evening at the theatre. I wonder what Poalo will think of this new production? After all he was invested in the role of the prince, for almost 15 years.

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Posted by RippedMan 2013-01-29 00:50:56


Sad. Sounds like it doesn't have much sparkle at all. And the storyline just sounds confusing. Seriously why not give us a normal Cinderella? Make it a one hour first act, and a 45min second act and call it a day, folks.

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Posted by BroomstickBoy 2013-01-29 00:51:22


I think the addition of the Jean-Michel character is ridiculous. Let's add a chunky/lovable character in the "revolutionary" role to tug our political heartstrings with the rah-rah for social injustice. And give him a hot chick so we love him even more! SOLD. I'm giving a hobo $5. Yay social change.

I am kinda sorta hoping for a recording.

It sounds like there's plenty of room for trimming. DCB does social commentary best when it doesn't take itself too seriously. There needs to be room for the audience to think. Sounds like it isn't the case here.

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Posted by bwayphreak234 2013-01-29 00:53:07


Reading what has been done to this show makes me very sad... I really hope they can change some stuff :/ reading about the lack of scenery and special effects is pretty disheartening. Cody Williams mentioned in one of his blog entries that the first stage direction is out of this world and will hook the audience... how does the show open exactly? It must not be that incredible since no one has commented on it yet!

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Posted by WhizzerMarvin TrinaJasonMendel 2013-01-29 00:57:41


I wish I still had a VCR so I could watch my Lesley Ann Warren tape. I was obsessed with her performance as a child.

The other song I feel the need to add, besides "A New Argentina," is "Rags." Everyone keeps telling Cinderella that she's wearing rags. Harriet rips up her father's old cloak and tells her it's nothing but rags now. I half expected Laura to look up to mezz and shout, "Father, you left me all alone in this world, and what did you give me but 'rags! you gave me rags!'"

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Posted by Jungle Red 2013-01-29 01:04:30


I LOVE the Lesley Ann Warren movie! It has Celeste Holmes as the Fairy Godmother! <3 Celeste Holmes!

What I would really, really love is a musical version of The Ugly Stepsister, but we don't need two Maguire books on stage at the same time.

(Only because I like the changes he put in, with the art and the shoes. I also love the Latin spin.)

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Posted by WhizzerMarvin TrinaJasonMendel 2013-01-29 01:05:06


bwayphreak- The show begins with an overture, during which several lighting cues change with the different melodies. Then Laura enters with a wagon full of vegetables, one of which is a pumpkin. She continues to pick vegetables (mushrooms and flowers perhaps as well) and place them in the cart. She sings a little with the ensemble backing her up from offstage.

After she departs the aforementioned tree monster enters. The male ensemble is fighting the tree in vain until Santino arrives. He eventually outwits the tree creature, ensnaring it with a vine. The knights then cart off the monster and Peter Bartlett enters with the prince's horse.

I guess the effect he was referring to was the tree monster? It's a pretty costume to be sure, but completely unnecessary. They obviously spent tons of money on it, but it should nonetheless be cut. They should just begin the show with the prince arriving at Cinderella's cottage asking for some water.

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Posted by Jungle Red 2013-01-29 01:07:26


To be grounded in such a real world, why have tree ogres? Is there any mention of them again? Or is it only meant to show how heroic the prince is? Eh.

I love the entrance of Prince Phillip in Sleeping Beauty. Now that's a musical they should bring to Broadway! Could you imagine the costumes and special effects? AH. YES PLEASE.

Sorry to keep threadjacking, but work is so slow and I have nothing else to do.

Another question about the preview. What was the audience like? Families? All adults? Mixed ages? I assume the kids were bored, if there were any.

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Posted by WhizzerMarvin TrinaJasonMendel 2013-01-29 01:16:01


There is no mention of the tree creature again. It is to show the heroism of the prince, as well as his boredom with life. After these big choreographed fight sequence, when the creature falls and all the knights are saved the prince says, "If I could only find something important to do with my life!" It's basically this big 10 minute sequence that tells us little we couldn't quickly learn with dialogue instead.

The audience was mixed. There were 4 young women, maybe in their early 20's, in front of me. They were bored, and in the second act whenever someone started to sing they'd whisper, "Not another song!" One woman left with her young child who was getting antsy during "Do I Love You Because You're Beautiful."

There were less families there than you might expect. It felt like a lot of tourists too.

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Posted by Jungle Red 2013-01-29 01:26:23


YOU'RE AT A MUSICAL! Of course they're going to sing. What do they expect? DUMB.

It wouldn't do much for the ending, but if they wanted social commentary, they should've made the Prince gay. Or maybe one of the sisters gay.

If you want to watch a musical about a (not really) revolution, then watch Les Mis.

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Posted by After Eight 2013-01-29 07:35:29


Interesting how the most recent reviewer echoed everything I said (and was scorched for).

And Cats, you're most welcome for the song list. My pleasure.

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Posted by themysteriousgrowl 2013-01-29 07:45:03



Time and again, Whizzer has proven himself insightful, reliable, and amicable.

Time and again, you have proven yourself boorish and antagonisitic, with very questionable tastes.

The richest man may occasionally find himself sharing a sidewalk with the most destitute man, but it doesn't make the rich man poorer or the poor man richer.

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Posted by mar6411 2013-01-29 08:07:37


Good to hear from Whizzer and growl. I always look forward to Whizzer's reviews. They are informative and I appreciate them. And I always look forward to growl's comments.

After Eight, the negativity in most of your remarks is off-putting although I always read your comments too. I'm sorry you feel the way you do.

Thanks again Whizzer - I admit to being a fan girl. :)

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Posted by WhizzerMarvin TrinaJasonMendel 2013-01-29 08:40:08


Hi Growl :)

Thanks mar for your kind words.

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Posted by Wynbish 2013-01-29 09:20:57


One woman left with her young child who was getting antsy during "Do I Love You Because You're Beautiful."

And that's my favorite song...

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Posted by little_sally 2013-01-29 09:29:09


Whizzer, you bring up a good point that I was thinking about after I saw the show: I am an adult and a frequent theatre-goer and could not sit through much of the second act. I could just imagine how the very young children around me must have felt.

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Posted by Ed_Mottershead 2013-01-29 09:34:48


Having grown up with the Disney version, I would have loved for the Disney folks to have done a stage version of the movie, say at the New Amsterdam. As a child, I was very disappointed with the R&H version when it was done in 1957 and have never particularly cared for it ever since.

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Posted by WhizzerMarvin TrinaJasonMendel 2013-01-29 09:48:30


Wynbish, I love that song too. Along with "Ten Minutes Ago" it's my favorite in the score. Still, by the time they finally sing it you want to scream out, "Just get on with it!" Plus the arrangement ends on a weird Wildhornian power ballad note. I prefer the Julie Andrews version that ends with a quieter moment. It's more touching. Simpler is sometimes better.

little sally, It stands to reason that the creative team assumed this would be a family show and that many children under 12 would be attending. True, there's nothing inappropriate being said, but it is inappropriate to believe this whole Jean-Michel business would hold a young girl's interest when what she came to see was Cinderella.

The irony is, at the current prices the families who can afford to buy 4 orchestra seats are the wealthy who are being represented on stage as greedy and unfeeling.

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Posted by suestorm 2013-01-29 10:12:47


The irony is, at the current prices the families who can afford to buy 4 orchestra seats are the wealthy who are being represented on stage as greedy and unfeeling.

thats an interesting remark WHIZZER... if it wasnt for the wealthy and the tourists this industry would be in big trouble and many jobs lost. something to remember to all those who bash them. thanks so much for the great review!

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Posted by North2009 2013-01-29 10:14:05


Wondering if anyone knows where the additional songs came from? Recognize a few, but am curious as to their origins. Trunk songs? Cut songs? Much appreciated

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Posted by Wynbish 2013-01-29 10:20:55


Aww, look how cute Nick Spangler looks in his armor

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Posted by finebydesign 2013-01-29 10:25:29


Why are those photos in B&W?

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Posted by Wynbish 2013-01-29 10:26:50


I figured either they were going with an artistic/romantic theme or if they can't show everything in color until the official preview comes out.

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Posted by mikem 2013-01-29 10:36:48


What's in the box in that photo?

Interesting point about whether audience members are going to be insulted by the "tax cuts for the rich" theme. I wonder if that will hurt word of mouth.

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Posted by Wynbish 2013-01-29 10:38:53


It looks like a present the company gave the man to commemorate getting engaged at the show.

By the way, here's a photo of the set apparently for the finale.

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Posted by bwayphreak234 2013-01-29 10:40:58


Looks pretty drab.

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Posted by ucjrdude902 2013-01-29 10:42:13


I have a friend in the cast, we got to briefly talk last night and I can tell you that feedback has been noted and editing has been discussed. I haven't seen the show yet but I plan on closely after opening night.

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Posted by jetts7 2013-01-29 10:42:27


I am seeing the show tonight and I am very excited!!!

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Posted by WhizzerMarvin TrinaJasonMendel 2013-01-29 10:43:23


That is pretty much the palace set. Sometimes there's a throne, but this where Harada sings the lament, where Cinderella leaves the slipper, etc.

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Posted by CarlosAlberto 2013-01-29 10:46:06


I wish I was WhizzerMarvinTrinaJasonMende, who gets too see EVERYTHING...the Playbill collection alone must be Eeeeenooooormmmmmmuuuuuussss!!!

But I digress.

Thanks for the informative review (your reviews always are), I'm going to have to sit this production out. I don't like the changes they made to it and at 3 hours I'd rather be doing much of anything else but see this.

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Posted by bwayphreak234 2013-01-29 10:50:07


How is the transformation for the pumpkin to carriage, rags to ball gown, and mice to footmen done?

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Posted by Ed_Mottershead 2013-01-29 10:52:03


Whizzer should be a professional critic -- he makes a lot more sense that the sitting bunch of morons, always providing valid and comprehensible critiques.

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Posted by bwayphreak234 2013-01-29 10:56:44


^ Agreed.

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Posted by finebydesign 2013-01-29 11:01:31


"I wonder if that will hurt word of mouth."

Um they need word of mouth first.

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Posted by ghostlight2 2013-01-29 11:07:29


What do you think this is?

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Posted by WhizzerMarvin TrinaJasonMendel 2013-01-29 11:13:29


Ha, thanks Ed. Even though I have such a passion for going to the theater I fear that if I gained employment by it any way I would soon come to resent it. I find enough enjoyment getting to share my thoughts on this forum and read the thoughts of my fellow theatergoers.

Slight spoilers, I guess, about the transformations...

The pumpkin turning into the carriage was cool. This big pumpkin starts to grow from behind the stone wall in Cinderella's front yard. The pumpkin starts to fold open like a flower and the carriage is there behind it. (Note the carriage isn't actually in the pumpkin.) The footmen are actually a fox and a raccoon that were hand puppets earlier on. Cinderella sings "My Own Little Corner" to them. Some smoke comes on the stage and the two footmen tumble out of the wings.

The costume transformations are more impressive. It's like each dress is a reversible dress. The bodice flips around the top half folds down to reveal the new dress. It happens very, very quickly. William Ivey Long is a pro and he's having fun with these quick changes.

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Posted by RaisedOnMusicals 2013-01-29 11:21:19


Whizzer,thanks for those comprehensive and coherent comments. I have a couple of questions.

Usually, as I am walking out of a theater after a show, I get a sense of how the audience liked or didn't like the performance. I obviously draw no conclusions from the obligatory standing ovations, but you generally hear people talking about what they just saw. So did you get a sense of how much or how little the audience liked it? Are the people who were there going to tell their friends to run and buy tickets or too save their money?

Also, picking up on what someone posted a short while ago, do you think it's really capable of the show being edited sufficiently in the next few weeks? I'd guess that would involve quite a bit of swallowing pride on the part of some people. Do you usually go back later in previews or shortly after opening to see if a show has undergone significant changes?

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Posted by suestorm 2013-01-29 11:41:52



Um they need word of mouth first.
FINEBYDESIGN, not sure what your issue is with this show, but word of mouth isnt one of them, they have the highest of any show coming up according to the poll on broadway.com

January 25, 2013 - 10:40AM


Ann3%

The Assembled Parties0%

The Big Knife0%

Breakfast at Tiffany's3%

Cinderella20%

Hands on a Hardbody3%

I'll Eat You Last: A Chat With Sue Mengers4%

Jekyll & Hyde14%

Lucky Guy2%

Matilda18%

Kinky Boots8%

Motown: The Musical2%

The Nance1%

Orphans0%

Pippin11%

Pump Boys and Dinettes0%

The Testament of Mary0%

The Trip to Bountiful0%

The Velocity of Autumn0%

The Miss Firecracker Contest0%

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Posted by little_sally 2013-01-29 11:43:16


RaisedOnMusicals, I know this question wasn't directed towards me but I saw the show with a large group of 14 year old girls (they were a school group) and many of them just thought it was "okay." Nobody in our group of about 40 was blown away.

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Posted by WhizzerMarvin TrinaJasonMendel 2013-01-29 11:49:19


RaisedOnMusicals,

Last night we had an onstage proposal at the end of the curtain call so the chatter walking out of the theater may have been more focused on that subject than the actual show. I will say the audience response throughout the evening was respectful, if a little tepid. Rarely were the jokes met with much laughter; the only times the audience went nuts were the costume changes and SLIGHT SPOILER
when Victoria floats across the stage.
END SLIGHT SPOILER

I often go back to show at the end of previews, or even several times during previews. It's fun to see a show often when changes are being made, but honestly it's very rare when they actually do make significant changes. Sure, most shows change a line, rewrite a joke there, but those aren't really going to change the finished product in any real way.

You hit the nail on the head though. It's all about swallowing pride and bruised egos. Are they willing to say, "We made a mistake. This subplot has to go." Take a look through Not Since Carrie. Songs used to be cut and replaced all the time. Characters were cut, actors were replaced. It's tough to make these decisions, but sometimes you need to for the good of the show.

Luckily this show doesn't need to be rewritten so much as it needs to be trimmed. Lock the creative team in a room and don't let them out till they've chopped off an hour of show. They could do it. Whether or not they will is for us to find out.

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Posted by Jungle Red 2013-01-29 16:20:13


Another expression: "Writing is rewriting." A script is never finished, even when it is.

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Posted by NoName3 2013-01-29 17:10:53



Here's a Daily News article with a couple of pics about the NYPD Sergeant proposing to his girlfriend onstage after the bows. It's a free promotion by the show called "Royal Proposal" he found when looking up the show and he was the first take advantage.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nypd-sergeant-pops-question-cinderella-article-1.1250117



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Posted by RaisedOnMusicals 2013-01-29 17:17:06


There is a very contrary view of this show that was just posted on All That Chat by "seeseveryshow." I have no idea who he is, but he's a very respected "regular" so far as I can tell. He calls the show "stunning and magical", and though he agrees that some time should be chopped off the running time, he predicts a long run. I've posted the link here. He was at the preview after which a NY cop was called up to the stage with his "girlfriend", to whom he then proposed (and which was the subject of a story today in the Daily News.

In case the link doesn't post, copy and paste:

http://www.talkinbroadway.com/allthatchat/d.php?id=2118204

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Posted by RippedMan 2013-01-29 17:28:36


I could see this going either way. I think with Matilda gearing up to start, it might get lost in the brush.

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Posted by Mattbrain 2013-01-29 17:33:53


I feel like, depending on execution, I'll either love or hate this new book. I don't hate the idea behind these plot points. But you never know.

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Posted by SamIAm2 2013-01-29 17:59:31


I think that a significant part of the problem that people have with the new book lies in their motivation to see the show in the first place. It's a potentially exciting way of "going home again", revisiting a cherished part of their childhood. For parents, there is a desire to share something they love with their children. (I am not in any way criticizing these motivations, just saying what I read between the lines in some of the reactions to the show that I have read, here and elsewhere.)

The differences inherent in the new script can lessen or spoil the experience, not just by introducing a new element, but by introducing a subplot that moves one from the heart to the head. They don't, for this 2-3 hours, want to have to think about social inequalities or other harsh realities of life. They want a heart warming fairy tale, an experience to bring them back to the sweet innocence of childhood.

I think that the creative team miscalculated (or was oblivious to) the reasons why audiences would come to this show. As others have said, fortunately it is a problem that can be fixed.

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Posted by WiCkEDrOcKS 2013-01-29 18:16:34


Costumes look lovely. The sets, not so much. I can probably count on one hand the productions at The Broadway that I've seen that had sets that fully utilized the massive stage and wings. For some reason mostly everything I see there looks so empty and barren.

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Posted by Belle9 2013-01-29 18:27:31


I am new to this board, as I've only signed up to review this show. I think it's important for people to know what they're getting into so that they don't waste their money, as I believe I have in this case. This post contains spoilers.

As a little intro on me, I generally love Broadway. I probably see an average of 3 or 4 Broadway shows a year, and I rarely leave disappointed. I personally dabble in community theater and enjoy nothing more than a night at the theater. When I heard the beloved classic Cinderella was coming to Broadway, my friend and I decided to get tickets for last night's show. I heard rumors that some of it had been modernized, but when I saw the costumes were still classically fairy tale at the Thanksgiving parade, I believed it couldn't be that different. Boy was I wrong.

I'll start with what was good about the production. Laura is phenomenal. Her voice just floats. Despite my disappointment at the rest of the production, I was riveted whenever she sang. She definitely has a bright future ahead of her. The costume changes were mind blowing. They took place right there on stage. I still don't fully understand how they were done, but they definitely succeeded at the wow factor.

Now onto what didn't work. Point blank....this is NOT Cinderella. It's not the same story. It's not the same message. And unfortunately so much of the music has been changed. As stated by other posters, it is nothing but one long political message, a message that seems so forced and out of place, that it is clear that the writers only had an agenda. Cinderella goes to the ball for no other reason than to tell the prince that there are hungry people in his kingdom. The nice stepsister is dating a revolutionary who tries to start a siege on the castle so that they can cut taxes and get handouts. Cinderella teaches all the guests at the ball that other countries are using kindness in political forums. The prince becomes convinced that his kingdom needs to hold an election for prime minister.

Where in all of this political tension is the story of Cinderella? Well, I couldn't find it. The most iconic plot point is missing, and I'm shocked that I haven't found another review that mentioned it. At the end of Act 1, Cinderella drops her glass slipper. But as the prince looks at it and begs for her name, she simply goes back and takes it! That's right. He doesn't find her glass slipper. Everyone around me was very confused during intermission. What's going to happen in the rest of the story now? A stranger next to me suggested that they'll have a "kindness contest" to find her. I wouldn't have been surprised if that was true.

Instead the prince holds a banquet to find Cinderella. She gets another dress and goes, only to find the prince and bring him to the slums to show him how poor people are. It was like they stole Hooverville right out of Annie. By that point, I was slumping in my chair, bored out of my mind. That has never happened to me during a Broadway show...ever! Oh, and when she leaves the prince this time, and he asks for her name, she turns around and hands him her shoe. So then we get the classic search for Cinderella, which now makes completely no sense. Well he finds her, and then she awkwardly asks him if marriage is still on the table. Wow...that's charming.

The show ended, and I was initially surprised by the standing ovation. Then I realized everyone in front of us was actually standing to leave. So my friend and I followed suit, and we missed the proposal that happened after the performance. She asked me if there was any way we could get our money back. I wish we had tried, if only to make a statement.

This show is in deep trouble. All the talent is there, but the book is absolutely terrible. They have ticket sales because people believe they know what they're getting into. I have a strong feeling those sales will plummet when potential theatergoers realize this is nothing more than a political soapbox with a familiar name to get you in the seats. I honestly can't imagine anyone truly enjoying this show except for extremist liberals and people who do not know or care about the original story of Cinderella. Please save your money. I can only hope they make some extreme changes before opening night.

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Posted by RaisedOnMusicals 2013-01-29 18:54:01


Well, Belle.

No offense, since I don't have any idea who you are, but I am a bit skeptical of anyone who joins a board like this "just to review this show." Are you saying that you've never disliked a show as much as this and just had to tell the world? Or in the opposite vein, have you not loved a show so much that you wanted to share your feelings? Look, you might well be right in terms of how this show is perceived and reviewed, I have no dog in the hunt one way or the other. I might feel the same way as you do after I see it. I'm just saying that your motivation seems a bit suspect to me.

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Posted by dramamama611 2013-01-29 18:59:47


Well, while I agree it's odd to join JUST to write a review what do you think her motivation might be?

But in other news? SHE JUST HANDS HIM THE SLIPPER? Oy.

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Posted by Belle9 2013-01-29 19:02:51


I've read the board before, but I've never felt the need to be an active poster, so I hadn't signed up before. I just feel that this particular show has mislead audiences that it is something that it isn't. I don't want other people to walk away disappointed like I did. I really feel like I wasted my money, and I know not many people have seen the show at this point, so I'm just trying to help. Sorry if I came across as rude in any way.

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Posted by suestorm 2013-01-29 19:05:04


Raisedonmusicals thanks for that link of the review. I'm more excited then ever now to see it!

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Posted by JohnyBroadway 2013-01-29 19:09:28


Belle, If you know the original Cinderella Perrault story, the prince does not collect the slipper after the ball. The prince holds a second ball, in which the prince grabs the glass slipper. So it looks like it was a take on that.

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Posted by Belle9 2013-01-29 19:10:47


I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for clearing that up.

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Posted by RaisedOnMusicals 2013-01-29 19:13:32


Not rude. Strange. Your profile says you see 3-4 shows per year, so this one show bothered you SO much that you joined just to let us all know about it? I'll accept what you say at face value, but you should at least see why one might be a bit cynical.

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Posted by Jungle Red 2013-01-29 19:14:38


Thanks for the review! I'm looking forward to more and I hope others are too.

How do you have Cinderella take her shoe back? WHO THOUGHT OF THIS?! I'm angry.

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Posted by Belle9 2013-01-29 19:19:08


I definitely understand. But to be completely honest, I love almost every show I see. I've never disliked a show like this one. I've also have never seen a show as early in performances as this one, so I felt my opinion was more necessary now than it has been in the past.

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Posted by broadwaydevil 2013-01-29 20:01:11


Potentially good news folks: the creative team is currently working on cutting, with a target of shortening the show by at least 15 minutes.

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Posted by Mattbrain 2013-01-29 20:08:12


My guess is the tree monster will be the first thing to go.

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Posted by bwayphreak234 2013-01-29 20:14:54


I'm most disappointed to read about the barren set design. Same thing with Annie. These are huge shows in huge theatres. When both shows were announced I was excited to see what these top notch designers would do with design. Both Korins and Louizos produced some pretty bare bones designs it sounds like which is saddening considering everything you can do with these shows... The scenic designer in me is pretty sad.

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Posted by SamIAm2 2013-01-29 20:21:47


"I honestly can't imagine anyone truly enjoying this show except for extremist liberals and people who do not know or care about the original story of Cinderella."

My lord, Belle9. Have we come to such a point where a belief in social justice makes one an "extreme liberal"? I believe that this may be the crux of why you did not care for the show.

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Posted by Jungle Red 2013-01-29 20:34:28


In Belle's defense, I joined Yelp to give an amazing review at a restaurant near my work. I've also read reviews where people have joined to give nasty reviews. Belle isn't the first one to do this.

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Posted by ucjrdude902 2013-01-29 20:40:12


Is anyone else shocked by how mixed early word of mouth is?

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Posted by CATSNYrevival 2013-01-29 20:41:48


^Nope. You can't top Eartha Kitt.

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Posted by Belle9 2013-01-29 21:27:18


The show specifically calls Jean Michele a liberal. His goal is to cause violence against the palace, which at first is glorified. Eventually things die down a bit. My point in that statement is that the level of political tension in this show is not enjoyable, no matter what side of the fence you are on. Nobody goes into a fairy tale expecting it to be about politics. It's not just about social justice. There are a lot of specific political issues that are displayed in this show that are about much more than that. You can read some of the reviews on the show's facebook page to get more of a taste of why this comes across badly.

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Posted by Mattbrain 2013-01-29 21:35:56


How do we know you didn't write one of those reviews, hmmm?

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Posted by sterna01 2013-01-29 21:40:20


It looks like the Fox News Demographic is in a snit.

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Posted by Belle9 2013-01-29 21:40:48


I didn't. It's not that it really matters considering there are quite a number of people who wrote similar reviews. I find it strange that I can't post an honest review on this board without everyone being suspicious.

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Posted by SamIAm2 2013-01-29 22:17:18


Belle9, I'm not questioning your motives and do appreciate your clarification re your perspective. I totally agree with your point about the show not meeting audiences' expectations and posted on that above (5:59pm tonight).

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Posted by RaisedOnMusicals 2013-01-29 22:30:28


Apparantly some cuts have already been made and went in tonight. I think they're trying here.

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Posted by chrisampm2 2013-01-29 22:31:51


Belle, add me to the list of folks who think it's great you chimed in. There's got to be a first post for a chatterer and this was yours. Personally, I'm more excited to see the show knowing it doesn't ape what I've already seen, but I understand how that will disappoint others.

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Posted by blaxx 2013-01-29 22:32:01


How do you have Cinderella take her shoe back? WHO THOUGHT OF THIS?! I'm angry.

Lol, sorry but this show sounds awful.

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Posted by wonkit 2013-01-29 22:37:56


I appreciate Belle's review. I was hoping to see something resembling the R&H show I saw in its three TV incarnations but it sounds like the fairy tale has been turned into a social commentary. Liberal or conservative, that isn't really consistent with the nature of fairy tales which are generally about individual happiness and goodness and not the inequities of the world at large.

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Posted by fingerlakessinger 2013-01-29 22:44:04


Okay, just to set it straight once more.
They take out the whole "slipper hunt"?
How in the world is that a good idea? Isn't that the biggest plot point of the classic Cinderella story?
That is like making Dorothy not even have the Slippers in "The Wizard of Oz."
Which I know the MUNY production pretty much did that to OZ but look what a mess that show is.

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Posted by Belle9 2013-01-29 22:48:00


Thank you wonkit. It really isn't about being liberal or conservative. The point is the political messages just don't fit into the story. It wasn't done subtly either. Even my friend, who doesn't follow politics at all, was shocked at the content.

The slipper hunt takes place at the very end, after the banquet. However it makes much less sense considering the prince and Cinderella have already spent so much time together at that point. Plus the fact that she literally handed him her shoe was very strange. If she wanted him to find out who she was, why not just tell him?

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Posted by Jungle Red 2013-01-29 23:06:32


According to what I read here earlier, the shoes are crystal. They better be used more than once!

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Posted by ucjrdude902 2013-01-29 23:07:42


I wouldn't be shocked if they're going to be changing some things.

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Posted by WhizzerMarvin TrinaJasonMendel 2013-01-29 23:10:42


It's funny Cinderella handing the prince her shoe was brought up. I assumed it was a costume malfunction and the shoe was supposed to stick to the steps, but didn't, so Laura had to run back and hand him the shoe! I didn't actually think that was planned, but if it was, ha.

The prince does recognize Cinderella in her rags before he puts the shoe on her. He only does that to prove to the rest of the kingdom that she is indeed the girl from the ball. (The whole kingdom is present for this as they are holding the elections at the palace.)

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Posted by Belle9 2013-01-29 23:22:53


Huh. I never thought it might be a malfunction. Did you see it last night also?

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Posted by WhizzerMarvin TrinaJasonMendel 2013-01-29 23:26:13


Yes, I saw it Monday evening.

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Posted by Belle9 2013-01-29 23:30:13


I'd like to hear what others say about that. It would make a lot more sense as a malfunction. I figured she handed it to him for laughs.

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Posted by Jungle Red 2013-01-29 23:36:17


The BWW plot thickens. I can't wait to hear more!

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Posted by PalJoey 2013-01-29 23:38:23


Now Is the Time is sung by Jean-Michel because he is supposed to be a revolutionary rebel

Oh, for crap's sake.

Did they fuCk up Cinderella by trying to make it Les Miserables?

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Posted by bwayphreak234 2013-01-29 23:47:36


I'm kind of dying to see this for myself now... If only I didn't live so far away :-/

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Posted by degrassifan 2013-01-29 23:55:56


Thanks for all the great reviews! Honestly, Cinderella is my favorite fairy tale, and I have seen so many versions of it that I never expect to see an exact replica of the story book. I always expect some kind of twist, so this new plot kind of intrigues me honestly. Also, Cinderella stories have always been political and a social commentary on class and social injustice. Ella Enchanted, Ever After, The Slipper and the Rose, and even the book, Just Ella, had some kind of political and social statement in them. Therefore, I'm not surprised. Lately, various versions have Cinderella "rescuing" the prince by teaching him about the world outside the palace. Some versions (Ever After, The Slipper and the Rose) has the prince enter a political alliance through an arranged marriage, but that is threatened when he decides to hold a ball and fall in love instead.

I guess Cinderella hands the prince her slipper because in her mind, if he is really in love with her, then he will search for her.

Oh, and in the Perrault story, there are two balls. In the Grimm version, there are three, which is why there's a banquet in this new retelling.

As for the new songs, what are they like? What's going on in the scene that they are sung in? Someone asked earlier which shows they were scrapped from:

Me, Who Am I? - Me and Juliet
Now Is the Time- South Pacific
I Have Loved and I've Learned - The Sound of Music
Loneliness of Evening - South Pacific
I Haven't Got a Worry in the World - Happy Birthday (a play)
There's Music in You - Main Street to Broadway

This might be a weird question, but did they mention how long it had been since Ella's father had died? Also, was there a good reason as to why Madame and Charlotte hated Ella, or were they just evil to be evil?

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Posted by degrassifan 2013-01-30 00:17:22


Oh, and something else I don't understand. If Act One ends with Cinderella leaving the ball, then why the heck does Stepsister's Lament and The Pursuit occur in the second act? I assume The Pursuit is Cinderella running away during midnight? Right now, it is listed that Act One ends with Ten Minutes Ago reprise, but is that correct?

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Posted by Belle9 2013-01-30 00:48:25


Yes that's right. Charlotte and the girls sing Stepsister's Lament because the prince is out looking for Cinderella and they hate that they couldn't get his attention. The Pursuit is a long dance scene in the forest as Cinderella tries to hide from the prince and his guards. While maybe too long, that part was actually enjoyable with some interesting acrobatics.

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Posted by JohnyBroadway 2013-01-30 01:13:09


What songs are played during the overture?

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Posted by ghostlight2 2013-01-30 01:15:55


"I just feel that this particular show has mislead audiences that it is something that it isn't. I don't want other people to walk away disappointed like I did. I really feel like I wasted my money, and I know not many people have seen the show at this point, so I'm just trying to help."

So your joining up today to actively discourage people from seeing a show in previews is a public service? Not trying to be rude, but please don't do me that favor. Post whatever you like, positive or negative, but when you start telling people to "Save their money" and tell them not to see a show, you've crossed a line as far as I'm concerned.

"I honestly can't imagine anyone truly enjoying this show except for extremist liberals and people who do not know or care about the original story of Cinderella."

Well, I can, and the conclusion you've come to sounds very judgmental. You didn't like it, so anyone who does must be an extremist or uncaring of a beloved old story. Not everyone has the same tastes, and some people might enjoy a modern spin on an old tale, plus, this sounds like a show that is fully utilizing the preview process. I would be willing to bet that the show on opening night will be quite a bit different from the one you saw.

Your review was well-written, but I think you're being a bit unfair to judge a show in previews quite so harshly, to the point of telling others not to see it. I'm very much looking forward to seeing it after they've settled in a little bit.

Welcome to the board. I hope you start posting your thoughts on shows that you do like as well.

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Posted by Belle9 2013-01-30 01:26:14


Again, I'm sorry if I came across badly. I admit my comment on who would like it is simply speculation, but I do know that many people in my part of the theater seemed confused and unhappy. I'm glad to hear that they've already started making changes. It could certainly end up being a good show, as the cast is truly fantastic, but I'd hold off buying tickets until the opening night reviews come out.

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Posted by E.Davis 2013-01-30 01:30:41


Saw it tonight, I am too tired to write up a full review tonight but here are some of my thoughts:

Like others have said, Laura Osnes was made to sing R and H scores.

Did not care for the Jean-Micheal subplot, maybe if it was a better actor. I did like him in his song and dance number with Marla.

Victoria Clark's soprano is the closest thing we have to god.

AND for those who want to know, I couldn't leave you hanging...SHE GAVE HIM THE SHOE. I was so confused when she ran away the first time and SHE TOOK IT, but in the end it all made sense...Kinda.

The show has some tweaks to make it ended around quarter of eleven tonight.

I wish the kept the design for Marie that we saw at the Parade. It is much more visually interesting than the pink dress. If people though the butt bumps where weird on the first dress, they are just strange on the new one. She does look great when flying...I will give it that.

The dress transformations....STUNNING.

More tomorrow.

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Posted by ghostlight2 2013-01-30 01:32:23


Well, thanks for that suggestion for waiting til after opening, Belle9, but personally, I enjoy watching works in progress and seeing how shows change, so I'll be seeing it fairly soon, and then a bit after opening.

There certainly does seem to be a very sharp divide on this show - people either love it or hate it.

Just curious, not to get terribly off-topic, what are some of the shows that you've seen that you liked, if you don't mind answering that?

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Posted by Belle9 2013-01-30 01:52:15


I think the sharp divide could have been predicted due to the political nature of the show, so I'm not sure why they went that route. Going into a show like Les Mis, you expect some form of politics. You don't expect it, at least this strongly, with Cinderella.

My favorites of the shows I've personally seen on Broadway are Phantom of the Opera, A Christmas Story the Musical, Wicked, the Lion King, and Godspell. I have seen many more that I enjoyed, but those are just my favorites that I can recall at the moment.

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Posted by SamIAm2 2013-01-30 01:58:38


Belle, are the issues framed as being political issues or more as being ethical issues?

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Posted by Belle9 2013-01-30 02:09:31


I would say they're framed as ethical issues, but unfortunately that's part of the problem. The prince's adviser is clearly an uncaring, unsympathetic character. There's no questioning that his motives are wrong. However, that character holds certain beliefs that can be attributed to the Republican party. Those beliefs, which are much more complicated than are portrayed here, make it seem as if Republicans have certain views because they are like this character. On the other hand, Democratic views are held by the heroes of the story, and are attributed to a sense of unselfishness. I don't mean to get into any sort of political debate here, but by referencing specific issues, like taxation and handouts, they are clearly tugging at what is going on in America today, where things are not so black and white. I think it will frustrate any Republicans, but even Democrats who are tired of political back and forth are likely to get frustrated as well. In its current state, the references are very clear. If it was just the issue of helping the homeless, without the politics and the revolutionary character literally interrupting Rodgers and Hammerstein's original songs by shouting on a soapbox, it would be a whole different story.

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Posted by SamIAm2 2013-01-30 02:24:26


Yeah, it does sound like there is a problem with how the issues are presented, a thinly veiled rehash of the 2012 elections. I've heard the creative team speak in interviews about how their production is meant to be based on the theme of kindness. Perhaps if they had been kinder to those who do not share their political views there could have been a more consistent message. I'm certain that they could have made the same points without beating anyone over the head, more like how Maria helps Capt. Von Trapp to be a better father in Sound of Music than like Les Mis.

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Posted by degrassifan 2013-01-30 02:29:31


Belle9, thanks for explaining the end of Act One question for me! I've heard good things about The Pursuit!

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Posted by ghostlight2 2013-01-30 02:39:41


Thank you for answering my question, Belle9, and I think I understand a little more where you're coming from as a result.

Your response to SamIAm makes me more inclined than ever to see it, sooner rather than later. The concept you describe is interesting to me. Cinderella has always been about class struggle, really, and the Cinderella many know and love is a bastardized version of the original, anyway, as most fairy tales are.

Your review has actually gotten me far more interested in this than anything else I've read. Before I was going to see it because I adore Vicki Clark. I'm not a huge fan of R&H - now I'll be going to see how they've updated the sugar-coated version we grew up with.

I'm wondering if you're internalizing this because of your own personal party affiliation (which is fair enough, if true). I'm going to try to go this weekend, and will report back.

Thank you for your thoughts.

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Posted by jetts7 2013-01-30 09:45:35


I saw the show last night and I really enjoyed it! Laura Osnes was amazing as always! Santino Fontano was hilarious as the Prince. From photos I've seen, the set looked horrible but it wasn't all that horrible. Could they have done way more with it? Oh yes! I took my mom to this show and she did not like it. She said it did not feel like the original Cinderella story to her. As did many say when we were walking out. I have to agree with her on it. It does not feel like the original Cinderella story but I still thought it had all of the Cinderella-ie things in it as well as some new things (if that makes sense). I think they should definatley trim the show down 30 minutes. Little kids will NOT be able to sit threw this show. When we left the theatre it was almost 11 at night! I suggest seeing the show after they open so that you see the final version because they need to tweak it. Overall, I loved the show and had a great night (except when I was going to bed at 12:30)!

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Posted by RaisedOnMusicals 2013-01-30 09:53:58


There has clearly been a very significant amount of criticism of the "political nature" of this show, and it got me thinking. Rogers and Hammerstein were extremely progressive in their day. They were advocates for social justice and fought racial prejudice. Just go back to South Pacific. This show was written in the late 40's and was very much ahead of its time. The song "You've Got To Be Carefully Taught" was an anthem for racial equality. When South Pacific toured the south (Atlanta), the local presenter wanted the song removed, and threatened to cancel the tour. Hammerstein told them, no song, no show, and the presenter backed down.

So to me (and I have not seen the show as yet), it's not necessarily out of the R&H playbook to incorporate a progressive theme. And to those who say, "we just wanted a fairy tale", there is a lot of darkness between the lines of many fairy tales, which were usually thought to be parables in any event.

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Posted by After Eight 2013-01-30 09:58:09


"She said it did not feel like the original Cinderella story to her."

This strikes me as the biggest problem of this enterprise, whether one likes the new book or not.

The show is not being billed merely as Cinderella, or Cinderella, songs by Rodgers and Hammerstein, but Rodgers and Hammerstein's Cinderella. People are buying tickets based upon what that billing seemingly promises. Are they getting it?

I don't think so.

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Posted by suestorm 2013-01-30 10:02:03


thats a good point AFTER8. as mmuch as i want to see this, and i alreadyy have tix, I hate when producers have to modernize a show, or use revisionist history. and im a young person.

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Posted by finebydesign 2013-01-30 10:46:49


"People are buying tickets based upon what that billing seemingly promises. Are they getting it? "

Well the tag "Glass slippers are so back" kinda infers it's a modern take. The artwork looks like Disney meets American Girl. It does have an identity situation, I would have called it "The Cinderella Project" and kept it open for people to come in, but again who was crying out for this to be on bway?

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Posted by StarToBe2 2013-01-30 12:54:29


I don't know if this was already addressed about the upper mez being curtained off. We too were wondering what was going on with that but after the show we are on stage to say hello/congrats/omg to Laura and Santino and we looked up and saw this huge arrangement of lighting that was completely blocking that exact area. It would be limited viewing AT BEST for those in those seats.

My review for seeing it at 2nd Preview was...it is a work in progress. We were at Drood the night before and had a friend at Cinderella 1st preview and we were well backstage and greeting and leaving before Cinderella got out. Ann(Charlotte) and our friend told us there were some pretty big messes (one being the stairs getting onstage) and it didn't get out until after 11. Saturday was about 10:45. Saturday when we went was god...there were some visible complications with the quick yet MAGICAL changes done while on stage that held our breath hoping would make it....and they did...and there was a moment of Laura having her mic on while backstage and she was clearly missing her cue for "Topher" and was asking for her bag...HER BAG...and started screaming Topher after he' left and before she made it to the stage. It was noticeable. Other than that and a few other moments of mistakes, it was a great show! I'm sure they will work out the kinks. We went fully knowing these thing may 'appen and it didn't take away from the talents! And watching the little girls (and some big) dressed up in ball gowns and crowns with stars in their eyes was so precious. Enjoy!

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Posted by PalJoey 2013-01-30 13:06:03


Rogers and Hammerstein were extremely progressive in their day. They were advocates for social justice and fought racial prejudice.

Rodgers (with a "D" in the middle) and Hammerstein were extremely progressive and put songs about social issues into South Pacific and The King and I. Hammerstein had written shows that centered around social issues before he worked with Rodgers, and Rodgers wrote shows about social issues after Hammerstein's death.

But Cinderella? They chose to write Cinderella as a fairy tale and a romance.

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Posted by sadephram 2013-01-30 13:06:48


Thanks everyone for your reviews. I have tickets for the last saturday matinee in March. I paid full price because I'm taking my grandma who has terrible eyesight so we needed to be close to the stage. Anyway, the only good non-premium seats were front row dead center which I thought was great until I read about the high stage. Has anyone actually sat in the front row ? How bad is it exactly ? The second row is sold at premium prices so I'm thinking it can't be very obstructed...

THANKS!

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Posted by Tom5 2013-01-30 15:03:45


I will certainly see this as well. But the purity of the original score should be left alone. Needs no help. (Would any producer bring in numbers from GIGI to improve a My Fair Lady revival?)

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Posted by henrikegerman 2013-01-30 15:48:45


"(Would any producer bring in numbers from GIGI to improve a My Fair Lady revival?)"

Very unlikely, but, with due respect to its charms, CINDERELLA is not MY FAIR LADY.

***

OK.

Between those stepsisters lamenting that there are songs interpolated into Cinderella from other scores (horror of horrors!) and those other stepsisters lamenting that they are now being deprived of hearing those songs from other scores which had already been interpolated into the 1997 television production of Cinderella.....

ONE COULD GO STARK RAVING MAD!

Between those stepsisters lamenting that there was no "current need" - no topicality, no moment - for a Broadway production of Cinderella (as we knew it) and those other stepsisters lamenting that it's criminal to mess with the show to make it more "current", topical, of the moment....

ONE COULD GO STARK RAVING MAD!

Add to that those stepsisters who are lamenting about changes made in the telling of the fairy tale. As if that's something new!

In the classic texts, Perrault and the Grimms didn't tell the story the same way.

In opera, Massenet and Rossini didn't tell the story the same way.

On film, it's been told countless different ways.

Not to mention the deconstruction of the story in INTO THE WOODS!

Finally, musicals - and operas - have been revisited and changes made to scores or books in repeated productions almost since Thespis stepped out of the chorus! Porter and Gershwin shows are altered frequently, and, in the case of Gershwin, even the names of the shows get changed into slightly - or not so slightly - different tellings of the very same story (Girl Crazy/Crazy for You, Oh Kay!/Nice Work...)!

Here's one example of a musical work being altered: the score and book for the 1959 tv version of Cinderella are not the same as the score and book for the 1965 tv version of Cinderella.

"Loneliness of Evening" was first put into the 1965 production (from South Pacific's trunk). And "Your Majesties" from the 1959 production was taken out.

And huge changes were made for the 1997 tv version!

SO MUCH FOR PURITY!

It's one thing to analyze whether specific changes, updates, renos work for you in the current production - and why or why not.

It's quite another to lament the act, in and of itself, of changing the musical - of "tampering" with it.

"But Cinderella? They chose to write Cinderella as a fairy tale and a romance."

Pal Joey, they wrote Cinderella for tv during the Eisenhower era. The fact that they stuck to fairy tale romance and avoided more topical social justice issues which might now resonate with an audience (for better or for worse depending on how they are treated), doesn't necessarily mean R&H would have been opposed to a 2013 R&H score Broadway version Cinderella which takes a very different approach.





















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Posted by Tom5 2013-01-30 15:59:14


Okay, but doesn't matter where "Loneliness Of Evening" came from, it first appeared in Cinderella and was put there by R&H and that's where it will forever belong. As for the score, it is absolutely first rate - should I list the songs? - and should not be mixed in with numbers from other sources.

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Posted by henrikegerman 2013-01-30 16:04:12


So it was ok to put a trunk song into the 1965 tv version (which was not in the 1959 tv version) but just so wrong to put it and several other trunk songs into the 2013 Broadway version?

I don't get the logic.

Of course, that doesn't mean one can't - after seeing the show - say this interpolation or that doesn't work. Or that none of it worked.

But to condemn the mere fact of changes outright and blindly - by some even before they see the show - simply because they've wrecked with perfection isn't persuasive.