VIDEO: First Look - Hamas Leader Tells CHARLIE ROSE He 'Cannot Live Under Occupation'
Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal told CBS News and PBS host Charlie Rose that he "cannot live under occupation," in portions of a wide-ranging interview that were broadcast today, July 28, 2014 on CBS This Morning (7:00-9:00 AM) Watch a clip below!
Rose spoke with Meshaal for an hour over the weekend in Doha, Qatar, where they discussed the current state of violence between Israel and Palestine. Meshaal likened the conflict to the American Revolution, telling Rose that he believes Hamas can defeat Israel militarily.
"Time and time again in the history of nations says that peoples have the upper hand over the occupation," Meshaal told Rose. "I have will. I can die because of Israel. I cannot live under occupation. Occupation is the worst thing that you can ever imagine. So every single Palestinian can die for the next generations to live in peace and freedom."
Excerpts of the interview are below.
CHARLIE ROSE: This is former President Bill Clinton-quote-"Hamas was perfectly well-aware of what would happen if they started raining rockets on Israeli. They fired 1,000 of them. And they have a strategy designed to force Israel to kill their own civilians so the rest of the world will condemn them." That's President Clinton. Not an Israeli. A man who worked hard to create peace between Palestinians and Israelis.
KHALED MESHAAL: With all due respect to Mr. Clinton, unfortunately the world doesn't want to blame the Israelis. Why do you call for security for Israel and why don't you call for lifting the siege and stopping the occupation on the Palestinians? Why don't you give the right to live for the Palestinians as the other nations? This is actually the last occupation in the world.
ROSE: Let me ask you this, do you believe that you can solve this by violence? Do you believe you can solve this with a military power? Is this going to end because one side is militarily going to defeat the other?
MESHAAL: In our culture as Arabs and Muslims, we have a prophet saying, the prophet said, the prophet had two choices, and he followed the easiest choice. That means we ought to follow the easiest path, the better path. As a Palestinian, I want to be liberalized. I want a state. I want to live without occupation. You in America, the American Revolution, was it peaceful? Did you not kick the British out? The nations, if they have the peaceful window to reach peace, then they will, better. Because we don't like to kill our sons and daughters. But if you don't have-if you don't have the peace, then The Resistance is legitimate. So the world has two choices. They need to help us peacefully to reach the state, or we will expel this occupation from our land.
ROSE: So unless the world will take the Israelis out of the West Bank and Gaza, you will expel them militarily? That's your objective? You believe you can do that?
MESHAAL: I do believe this, as I see you now. It is a conviction. Why? Because, time and time again in the history of nation says that peoples have the upper hand over the occupation. I have will. I can die because of Israel. I cannot live under occupation. Occupation is the worst thing that you can ever imagine. So every single Palestinian can die for the next generations to live in peace and freedom.
ROSE: Some also ask why are you here in and not in Gaza? That, if in fact, you are The Voice of Hamas, you should be in Gaza, with the people of Gaza. That's the place for you.
MESHAAL: Yes, this is a very reasonable question. I'm from the West Bank. I was expelled. And millions were compelled to live outside their own country. It is natural for me to be there but occupation doesn't allow me to do so. You have hundreds of thousands of Palestinians in America. And they long to go back to Palestine. Although they are American citizens, Palestinians long for their home country. That's why we insist on the return of the refugees for me and others to return.