Mandy Patinkin-related questions

[touchmeinthemorning]

Posted: 9/7/04 at 12:43pm

1) Why was Che in Evita considered a featured, and not a lead? So confused.

2) How did he not win for SITPWG?

3) How did SITPWG only win for scenic and lighting?

I was not a big Bway geek at the time of Sunday..., so I need someone in the know to let me know what happened to make this show not sweep the Tony's.

thanks in advance!

[broadwayguy2]

Posted: 9/7/04 at 12:44pm

side note -- I LOVE Mandy in Dead Like Me (as well as the divine Jasmine Guy!)

[spiderdj82]

Posted: 9/7/04 at 12:45pm

For the first question, I think because he is the narrator not really the SUBJECT of the show. I honestly don't know, but that is the best I could come up with.

And see folks, I didn't say anything bad about him. :)

[touchmeinthemorning]

Posted: 9/7/04 at 12:50pm

my opinion: Mandy is the best working stage actor...let alone how astonishing he is on screen in things like Dead Like Me.

I am a definite fan, and wanna take a master class with the man.

[aspiringguy715]

Posted: 9/7/04 at 12:56pm

I believe another show beat out SITPWG in almost every category that year...let me look.

Off to check! Updated On: 9/7/04 at 12:56 PM

[aspiringguy715]

Posted: 9/7/04 at 1:00pm

touchmeinthemorning-La Cage aux Folles beat SITPWG that year, in almost every category.

[touchmeinthemorning]

Posted: 9/7/04 at 1:02pm

Am I wrong in saying that whyile I like La Cage, Sunday in the Park is just brilliant, and the contest shouldn't have even been close?

[aspiringguy715]

Posted: 9/7/04 at 1:03pm

I'm sure it was very close.

SITPWG did win the Pulitzer Prize for Drama that year. A VERY big recognition.

[Borstalboy]

Posted: 9/7/04 at 1:15pm

A brilliant Patinkin film performance you might check out is the totally unusual THE MUSIC OF CHANCE with James Spader and Charles Durning...offbeat, brilliant.

[spiderdj82]

Posted: 9/7/04 at 1:19pm

and of course the PRINCESS BRIDE.

"You killed my father.......Prepare to die"

[ckeaton]

Posted: 9/7/04 at 1:37pm

side note -- I LOVE Mandy in Dead Like Me (as well as the divine Jasmine Guy!)
Agreed.

[MargoChanning]

Posted: 9/7/04 at 2:04pm

There was something of an anti-SITPWG backlash that year with the Tonys. SITPWG was seen as the show for snobs and intellectuals and, significantly, had been the subject of article after article in the Times by Frank Rich (then, the most hated man on Broadway) extolling its genius and indirectly (and sometimes directly) putting down "La Cage," Jerry Herman and the old-school Broadway musical with its "hummable" melodies. Rich single-handedly went out of his way to prop up the show which struggled at the box office. Rich's cheerleading (and the Pulitzer) helped keep the show running for well over a year, but engendered a lot of resentment around Broadway.

All of those bad feelings resulted in a a near shut out Tony night for SITPWG, which was viewed as not so much a snub of Sondheim (who has always been well-respected), but more as a slap at Frank Rich and the power of the Times which many felt had gotten completely out of control. It also didn't hurt that Herman and Fierstein were very popular figures in Broadway circles. And there was also the fact that "La Cage," despite its gay subject matter, was more audience-friendly and would be the bigger hit (which ultimately was the case).

So while Hearn and Chita Rivera (the first win of her long and legendary career) were certainly very deserving, Patinkin and Peters probably never had a chance at the Tony that year because of all the anti-Times, anti-Rich, anti-SITPWG sentiment at the time.

[touchmeinthemorning]

Posted: 9/7/04 at 2:24pm

Thanks for that info, Margo. As usual, you educate me.

And...perhaps the times does have too much power...even today.

[ChrisLovesShows]

Posted: 9/7/04 at 4:52pm

Borstalboy, I can't believe you've seen THE MUSIC OF CHANCE -- isn't just the weirdest, greatest movie?? I actually rented another movie one time, and this movie was in the box by mistake. I always ask people if they've ever seen it and NO ONE ever has. Don't forget that Joel Grey is Charles Durning's "partner." Mandy fans, you should check it out. Very bizarre and James Spader is great.

[broadwayguy2]

Posted: 9/7/04 at 5:12pm

ckeaton, I HAVE to watch dead like me each week. I am addicted.

[SamIAm]

Posted: 9/7/04 at 5:46pm

Music of chance is a very interesting and bizarre movie but one I've watched a number of times. If you want to see another strange one with Mandy in a small role try Lulu On the Bridge.

[GovernorSlaton]

Posted: 9/7/04 at 5:52pm

I have a question:

Is it pronounced like it's spelled, PatInkin, or PatAnkin?

[NuggetMonkeys]

Posted: 9/7/04 at 5:55pm

Pa - TIN - kin

I love him unbelievably.
I cannot wait to see him live for the first time at Dodger Stages (going to buy TIX as soon as details are released)
!!
-d.b.j-

[SamIAm]

Posted: 9/7/04 at 6:43pm

Nugget, if you love him (and you either love him or hate him) you'll love him in concert. I've been to more than I can count and his Sondheim concerts last year and the year before were a knockout. The shows he'll be doing at the Dodger Stages will be his Pops concert, I believe, but he ALWAYS does some Sondheim.

[SamIAm]

Posted: 9/7/04 at 6:45pm

BTW, ticket details are as follows:


Dodger Stages on W. 50th Street in New York City. The run is from September 20, 2004 - October 17, 2004 and will include 4 - 6 shows per week beginning at 8pm.


Tickets go on sale on 9/13. Show dates are listed at this link:
http://www.mandypatinkin.net/mptour.html

[Pip]

Posted: 9/7/04 at 6:54pm

What was Mandy's last role on Broadway? Was it Wild Party?

[touchmeinthemorning]

Posted: 9/7/04 at 6:57pm

http://ibdb.com/person.asp?ID=55659

The above site has all of his roles on Bway...the last two were concerts he did.

[Pip]

Posted: 9/7/04 at 6:59pm

Thanks!

[SamIAm]

Posted: 9/8/04 at 9:20am

patinkin typically tours in the fall in concerts. This year he won't be doing that (only the shows in NYC) since he is picking new material with Paul Ford to do the next CD. He films Dead Like Me from February thru July and that touring schedule fits well with his other commitment.

He WAS to have done an independent film centered around the Trojan War this fall but haven't heard anything more about it.

[Broadwaylady]

Posted: 9/8/04 at 11:04am

I also love Mandy and plan to see him in his recent concert. I first saw as Che in Evita. I do not get Showtime to see his new show but I am watching him in the reruns of Chicago Hope. He was in the first few seasons.