Hamilton Sydney
Hamilton Sydney
#1Hamilton Sydney
Posted: 5/21/19 at 9:04pm
Im not sure this is going to be the massive hit in Australia they hope it will be. I think they should have gone with a coproduction with the two major theatre companies MTC and STC.
Of course always happy to be proven wrong
Well I didn't want to get into it, but he's a Satanist.
Every full moon he sacrifices 4 puppies to the Dark Lord and smears their blood on his paino.
This should help you understand the score for Wicked a little bit more.
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#2Hamilton Sydney
Posted: 5/22/19 at 4:07am
Hamilton is a worldwide cultural phenomenon - I suspect they will have a decent audience for a while to at least break even. But of course I don't see it breaking ground like it did in the US. It feels like Australians would probably not know or care about US history, but maybe Americans don't either. And the show is about so much more.
I share your skepticism, but what do I know - I wasn't even convinced it'd break even once transferring to Broadway. A long, dense rap musical about US independence does not scream hit to me. And still doesn't.
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
#3Hamilton Sydney
Posted: 5/22/19 at 6:10am
and those few words from Lin-Manuel wouldn't make anyone rush to the box office.
Updated On: 5/22/19 at 06:10 AM
Impossible2
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/31/18
#4Hamilton Sydney
Posted: 5/22/19 at 6:15am
qolbinau said: "Hamilton is a worldwide cultural phenomenon - I suspect they will have a decent audience for a while to at least break even. But of course I don't see it breaking ground like it did in the US. It feels like Australians would probably not know or care about US history, but maybe Americans don't either. And the show is about so much more.
I share your skepticism, but what do I know - I wasn't even convinced it'd break even once transferring to Broadway. A long, dense rap musical about US independence does not scream hit to me. And still doesn't."
You’d be lucky to find 3 people on earth who went to see Hamilton because they cared about American history. Do you think people went to see Cats because they had an interest in cats? What is wrong with you people.
#5Hamilton Sydney
Posted: 5/22/19 at 7:47am
Actually I do know three people who wanted to see it based on it being about Hamilton, and I’m sure the only reason some people saw Cats because it was based on pussies.
‘That’s what makes things interesting in this world, you be surprised what draws people to see things
Well I didn't want to get into it, but he's a Satanist.
Every full moon he sacrifices 4 puppies to the Dark Lord and smears their blood on his paino.
This should help you understand the score for Wicked a little bit more.
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dramamama611
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/4/07
#6Hamilton Sydney
Posted: 5/22/19 at 8:26am
There is nothing wrong with rosscoe OR golbinau. They both have immense knowledge AND insight.
I'm not saying they're right - and certainly, they aren't predicting a flop - but, they aren't wrong to speculate.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
Impossible2
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/31/18
#7Hamilton Sydney
Posted: 5/22/19 at 9:05am
dramamama611 said: "There is nothing wrong with rosscoe OR golbinau. They both have immense knowledge AND insight.
I'm not saying they're right - and certainly, they aren't predicting a flop - but, they aren't wrong to speculate.
"
It won’t flop it’ll be huge x
#8Hamilton Sydney
Posted: 5/22/19 at 11:32am
Who knows, we might be being too skeptical. I guess it’s just both of us are Australian theatre goers and anecdotally it’s hard to imagine something so deeply embedded in US history & culture really appealing to audiences here the same way it has elsewhere (including London). But Hamilton is a different beast so I’m willing to concede the success might continue to repeat itself. I’d bet it’ll still turn a profit.
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
Updated On: 5/22/19 at 11:32 AM
#9Hamilton Sydney
Posted: 5/22/19 at 12:27pm
I had been wondering, if like Mormon and Rent, that African American performers from other countries would be brought in — but Seller's comment is encouraging.
https://thebrag.com/hamilton-coming-sydney/
"This thread reads like a series of White House memos." — Mister Matt
#10Hamilton Sydney
Posted: 5/22/19 at 12:30pmIs Jessica Mauboy going to play one of the sisters?
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
#11Hamilton Sydney
Posted: 5/22/19 at 12:31pmI was thinking her and/or Zahra Newman...
"This thread reads like a series of White House memos." — Mister Matt
Fosse76
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/21/05
#12Hamilton Sydney
Posted: 5/22/19 at 12:44pm
RENT was a massive hit when it opened in the US, but failed to replicate its success overseas. Much of its failure outside the US was attributed to the New York-ness of the piece. While Hamilton may be a loosely based on history, many of its political themes would easily resonate with those who are not familiar with U.S. politics or history. It really depends whether or not the hype also transfers.
