Norm Lewis Replacement?

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#150Norm Lewis Replacement?
Posted: 1/13/15 at 3:23pm

Carlos didn't suppress, either. The BWW mods did, technically. They can remove posts rather than entire threads...

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#151Norm Lewis Replacement?
Posted: 1/13/15 at 3:25pm

^ THANK YOU!!!

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#152Norm Lewis Replacement?
Posted: 1/13/15 at 3:47pm

It's probably too much, but I feel like a statement within the last couple years about HOW he's supposedly "learned his lesson" would have helped situations like this. I think the outcry from the community wouldn't be as big if he could at least say, "yeah it happened/again I'm very sorry/I've learned" or whatever. Unless, he's legally not allowed to, but I haven't heard anything like that.

The most confusing thing is still why they cast him. They got all this positive coverage on Norm's casting, and followed up with Barbour? It's not like we only have a handful of fair actors with great voices or that there's some amazing draw that comes with his name. It's just odd to me.


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#153Norm Lewis Replacement?
Posted: 1/13/15 at 3:56pm

Well; maybe it is coming. I can't wait for the Paul Wontoreck or Richie Ridge interview. Things will only get creepier. Norm Lewis Replacement?


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#154Norm Lewis Replacement?
Posted: 1/13/15 at 3:58pm

You really don't care for Richie Ridge now do you DAME?

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#155Norm Lewis Replacement?
Posted: 1/13/15 at 4:00pm

I actually don't mind him at all. He is just fluff. Paul W on the other hand...


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#156Norm Lewis Replacement?
Posted: 1/13/15 at 4:04pm

You don't like Paul Wontoreck?!!!

It's the hair, right?

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#157Norm Lewis Replacement?
Posted: 1/13/15 at 4:08pm

Watch some of his interviews.. you will see what I mean. And I wouldn't say I don't like him. He is just creepy.


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#158Norm Lewis Replacement?
Posted: 1/13/15 at 4:08pm

You guys really need to get a room.


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#159Norm Lewis Replacement?
Posted: 1/13/15 at 4:09pm

AGAIN?


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#160Norm Lewis Replacement?
Posted: 1/13/15 at 4:10pm

You guys really need to get a room.

Only if you join us...

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#161Norm Lewis Replacement?
Posted: 1/13/15 at 4:12pm

US?


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#162Norm Lewis Replacement?
Posted: 1/13/15 at 4:13pm

Yeah I've seen many of his Broadway.com interviews. What I find funny about him is that with every guest he has a tendency to "dream cast" them in one role or another and the interviewees sure do love him.

He's harmless really....but THE HAIR!!

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#163Norm Lewis Replacement?
Posted: 1/13/15 at 4:14pm

Okay DAME..don't get mad. You don't have to share me...

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#164Norm Lewis Replacement?
Posted: 1/13/15 at 4:15pm

Watch the Kyle Dean interview. Where he goes on about his shirtless picture. All creepy in a fun way.


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#165Norm Lewis Replacement?
Posted: 1/13/15 at 4:18pm

He did that with Jeremy Jordan as well. He was going on and on about the pic Jordan posed for with the wine coolers obscuring his man candy. I was like: "Girl...can you be anymore obvious with your drool?"

Yeah...it was creepy.

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#166Norm Lewis Replacement?
Posted: 1/13/15 at 4:18pm

LMAO...did we just thread jack again DAME?

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#167Norm Lewis Replacement?
Posted: 1/13/15 at 4:19pm

I need to watch that one. Maybe he should be the one to do a James Barbour explain yourself interview.


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#168Norm Lewis Replacement?
Posted: 1/13/15 at 4:20pm

I don't thing Wontoreck is capable of going that deep...

...in his interviews.

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#169Norm Lewis Replacement?
Posted: 1/13/15 at 4:21pm

Maybe Corine?


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#170Norm Lewis Replacement?
Posted: 1/13/15 at 4:24pm

Oh no girl now I just had to close my office door so my whole team would not here me laughing my ass off!!!

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#171Norm Lewis Replacement?
Posted: 1/13/15 at 4:26pm

That makes me happy.


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#172Norm Lewis Replacement?
Posted: 1/14/15 at 3:42am

Here is a link to a NY Times article about Mr. Barbour's guilty plea and sentencing:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/04/nyregion/04actor.html?_r=0

A few of my observations, as an attorney who never worked on such cases, but am familiar with them:

Mr. Barbour is NOT a rapist, because he was not convicted of statutory rape (a felony), and was only convicted of misdemeanor charges. OTOH, his excuse that he thought she was 16 is not particularly exculpatory -- in many states, the age of consent is no longer 16, but 18.

A so-called "Alford plea" is becoming quite common in these cases. Such a plea is NOT equivalent to a plea of "no contest." Instead, it is a true guilty plea, in which someone effectively says, "I didn't do it, but I acknowledge that the prosecution's evidence is sufficient for me to be convicted."

The terms of Mr. Barbour's plea deal strike me as quite harsh in a case in which there was no actual intercourse. Therefore, Mr. Barbour's attorney's spin that the prosecution didn't have a good case is probably inaccurate.

Cases such as Mr. Barbour's and Stephen Collins's are troubling for lots of reasons. First, of course, is the damage to the victim. OTOH, in many states, statutes of limitations for similar offenses are getting longer and longer, and, in some cases, there are none. Therefore, an offender may be convicted of an offense that happened decades before. Sometimes he (usually, such offenders are male) has completely changed his ways -- contrary to popular belief, not everyone who has committed child molestation is a "pedophile." Instead, many, if not most, offenders commit the offense because of issues in their lives at the moment, and not because they are generally attracted to children. This does not excuse the offense, but it does diminish the likelihood of repetition years later.

Finally, unlike for many other offenses, offenders can experience repercussions years later, either because of a draconian sex offender registration law or because the Internet acts as a de facto offender list. These repercussions make it difficult for the offender to move past an offense, even where the individual is no longer dangerous. In some such cases, an offender's young children or new spouse can become additional victims to an extent not likely for other crimes. As a result, such a perpetrator is never given the opportunity for a fresh start. In some cases, offenders face such strict limits on where they may live that they wind up homeless, where no one can easily track them.

I have no answers to unfairness in the laws, but I am concerned that society not rush forward with ever stricter statutes that make it impossible for an offender to pay his debt to society and move on.






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Updated On: 1/14/15 at 03:42 AM

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#173Norm Lewis Replacement?
Posted: 1/14/15 at 6:43am

...that make it impossible for an offender to pay his debt to society and move on.

And that's just it isn't it? Not only the laws but we as a society.

And it's an interesting point you make:

...an offender may be convicted of an offense that happened decades before. Sometimes he (usually, such offenders are male) has completely changed his ways - This does not excuse the offense, but it does diminish the likelihood of repetition years later.

When the offender has paid their debt to society, learned from their mistakes, has changed their ways, no longer poses a threat and wants to move on with their lives in a positive way is it really fair to continue to put this person "on trial" so to speak, which ultimately prohibits the offender from moving on with their life?

Don't we all, as human beings deserve a second chance especially when one has acknowledged the wrong doing and as paid their debt?

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#174Norm Lewis Replacement?
Posted: 1/14/15 at 12:35pm

Oh okay, you see I didn't catch most of that, but yet you know I was blamed for it for being deleted anyway. Haters gonna hate.