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Which tour cities are A, B, or C? And what makes them that?

Which tour cities are A, B, or C? And what makes them that?

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julesboogie
#1Which tour cities are A, B, or C? And what makes them that?
Posted: 5/14/11 at 10:58am

Was chatting with a friend about touring cities and their A, B, or C ranking. Is there a list? And what are the main criteria for the ranking?

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#2Which tour cities are A, B, or C? And what makes them that?
Posted: 5/14/11 at 12:07pm

I would assume it has to do with size of the city and size of the house. Big first national tour aren't going to be able to play Theatre C because they won't have the space to load in, etc. That's why as the shows go from 1st National status to like 4th National Staus or even Non-Eq, they scale the show back.

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#2Which tour cities are A, B, or C? And what makes them that?
Posted: 5/14/11 at 6:34pm

Is there not a set list of what is what? Just curious.

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#3Which tour cities are A, B, or C? And what makes them that?
Posted: 5/14/11 at 9:01pm

Certain cities obviously have better facilities and more money, so they will usually be the first ones to book a show and potentially book it for longer periods. But there is no list of any sort that specifically states a tour can't go to a certain city until after a certain point in time.

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#4Which tour cities are A, B, or C? And what makes them that?
Posted: 5/14/11 at 11:24pm

Im aware that theres no list or rule saying that. Which tour cities are A, B, or C?  And what makes them that? I was trying to find out if there was a general consensus on what city fell into which catagory. If it had been officially decided upon. IE Chicago, San Fran., LA. = A cities. While DC., Toronto etc = B.

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#5Which tour cities are A, B, or C? And what makes them that?
Posted: 5/15/11 at 8:14am

No one hardly comes to Boston anymore Which tour cities are A, B, or C?  And what makes them that?

husk_charmer
#6Which tour cities are A, B, or C? And what makes them that?
Posted: 5/15/11 at 2:56pm

Dallas/Fort Worth is really hit or miss...sometimes we get a first run...sometimes we don't.


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#7Which tour cities are A, B, or C? And what makes them that?
Posted: 5/15/11 at 4:08pm

Tempe, Arizona usually gets good stuff. It's a huge house on a college campus. I usually never have to wait for the big tours.


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#8Which tour cities are A, B, or C? And what makes them that?
Posted: 5/15/11 at 4:19pm

Shouldn't the owner of the theatres be taken into consideration? Places like San Diego and Detroit have major theatre owned by Nederlander. Therefore, those two city are big for Nederlander shows.


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#9Which tour cities are A, B, or C? And what makes them that?
Posted: 5/15/11 at 6:23pm

"Shouldn't the owner of the theatres be taken into consideration?"

This is actually true. I know one of the theatres in Boston let their contract expire with Broadway Across America & so "Next To Normal" couldn't come here. Instead we get the tour of "West Side Story". :P

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dramamama611
#10Which tour cities are A, B, or C? And what makes them that?
Posted: 5/15/11 at 6:37pm

Next to Normal didn't book a traditional A tour anyway. But other than that, what other tours didn't boston get recently? I have to admit, I seldom see tours or pay much attention, but I can't remember anything that skipped us. I just prefer going to NY for my theater. I don't enjoy tours nearly as much.


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#11Which tour cities are A, B, or C? And what makes them that?
Posted: 5/15/11 at 6:57pm

"Billy Elliot" isn't coming until next season.
"Spring Awakening" waited almost a whole year to come.
"Shrek" didn't come to Boston at ALL.

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fingerlakessinger
#12Which tour cities are A, B, or C? And what makes them that?
Posted: 5/15/11 at 8:07pm

I always thought Rochester, NY was a C city...however we had two runs of WICKED (the 1st Tour) that were nearly a month long and had the tour of "A Chorus Line" open here. And we had "Lion King" I believe 3 times that were for several weeks so I guess its a B?


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Steel Pier Fan
#13Which tour cities are A, B, or C? And what makes them that?
Posted: 5/15/11 at 8:19pm

Toronto is defiantly A not B

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#14Which tour cities are A, B, or C? And what makes them that?
Posted: 5/15/11 at 9:02pm

We got Spring Awakening near the end of the first year of the tour -- still makes it the A tour. And it still had a month or two to go. (It also didn't sell terribly well. August: Osage County sold so poorly they cancelled the second week -- which, of course, I had tickets for. Maybe that's why we are starting to lose shows, bad sales. )

SOMEONE has to be scheduled later in the run -- that doesn't mean anything.

We didn't get Shrek? Really? Never noticed!





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bdboston
#15Which tour cities are A, B, or C? And what makes them that?
Posted: 5/15/11 at 10:29pm

I have also been quite frustrated with Broadway Across America-Boston's offerings of late. As a major city, Boston (one would think) should be getting first-run tours quickly out of the "starting gate." I know, I know, there are schedules and pre-determined commitments, but the fact that we are getting shows like "Billy Elliot" so late in the game is ridiculous. Nothing against small cities, but I'm stymied by the fact that many of them are getting "Memphis" during the upcoming 2011/12 season, while Boston is not. Argh!

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#16Which tour cities are A, B, or C? And what makes them that?
Posted: 5/15/11 at 10:40pm

Boston seems to bring the weirdest stuff as part of the Broadway season. A lot of the shows aren't even broadway tours.


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#17Which tour cities are A, B, or C? And what makes them that?
Posted: 5/15/11 at 10:51pm

Cleveland is a huge tour city! We have the second largest performing arts center in the country next to the Lincoln Center. Playhouse square has about 9 theaters and the VP of theatricals Gina Vernaci here in Cleveland is a Tony voter. So she gets to come to New York and pick the shows she wants to bring to Cleveland. Our season is ending this year I believe with Next to Normal, and then next years season we get Million Dollar Quartet, La Cage, Hair, Memphis, Addams Family, Come Fly Away, and Sondheim on Sondheim.

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#18Which tour cities are A, B, or C? And what makes them that?
Posted: 5/15/11 at 10:57pm

That memphis schedule is interesting. Clearwater, Schenectady, Naples, so early. Not too familiar with those spots. Do they usually see the first leg of an Union tour?

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theatreguy
#19Which tour cities are A, B, or C? And what makes them that?
Posted: 5/15/11 at 11:11pm

Just to clarify something here:

The show doesn't book the city, the city books the show.

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#20Which tour cities are A, B, or C? And what makes them that?
Posted: 5/15/11 at 11:20pm

@ Steel Pier

Thanks for the clarification. I wasnt sure on those cities, i was just giving an example of what i was trying to be educated on. Which tour cities are A, B, or C?  And what makes them that?

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#21Which tour cities are A, B, or C? And what makes them that?
Posted: 5/15/11 at 11:42pm

Minneapolis/St. Paul seems to be A-/B+. Lots of tours have started here. We have three large houses that host a mixture of shows. One is non-profit (Ordway.)

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#22Which tour cities are A, B, or C? And what makes them that?
Posted: 5/16/11 at 12:21am

"That memphis schedule is interesting. Clearwater, Schenectady, Naples, so early. Not too familiar with those spots. Do they usually see the first leg of an Union tour?"

Clearwater doesn't often, no. Often, the Tampa Bay Performing Arts Center (they're called something else now, but that's what I know them as) about 40 minutes away gets most of the A tours, particularly popular shows. Clearwater often gets non-Eq tours.


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bwayfan7000
#23Which tour cities are A, B, or C? And what makes them that?
Posted: 5/16/11 at 12:35am

Cleveland is definitely an "A" city. Every year when I look at the tour schedules, Cleveland has the best. We get every big show it's first year out with maybe one exception and the sheer volume of shows we get is amazing.


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BroadwayBen
#24Which tour cities are A, B, or C? And what makes them that?
Posted: 5/16/11 at 11:52am

St. Louis is definitely an "A" city. They often end up getting tours in their first months, so I drive there often.