Tim Minchin -V- Andrew Lloyd Webber

Johnnycantdecide
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Tim Minchin -V- Andrew Lloyd Webber
Posted: 2/7/13 at 09:26pm
http://www.chortle.co.uk/news/2013/01/31/17086/minchins_anger_over_superstar_auto-tune

THANK YOU, Tim Minchin, for once again people someone who was stepped on and put Webber in his place.

I have bootlegs of Tim in the role and he sounds AWESOME. And then Sir Andrew decided to (badly) autotune him to DEATH on the official recording. To the point where itís almost unlistenable. To make Minchin sound like a bad pop star.

Webber has proven for the past 15 years that he has no idea what to do with Jesus Christ Superstar.

Now Andrew has pissed off Patti LuPone and Tim Minchin, two of the most talented people in their field. And itís because Andrews is a narcosis and a sociopath.

But I guess thatís what egotist do, alienate themselves from everyone.

And I would be willing to BET this is why the tour has been ďproposedĒ in March to this Fall. And I would be also bet that Tim will not be back it if comes back this fall.
CATSNYrevival
Broadway Legend
joined:3/1/04
Tim Minchin -V- Andrew Lloyd Webber
Posted: 2/7/13 at 09:36pm
Honestly, I don't really hear it. It's not as obvious to me as the Glee songs are. Maybe because it's live so there wasn't as much that they could do to alter it, but I just don't really hear it.

Having said that, even without auto tune his voice is one of the most annoying and grating I've ever heard. He's probably my least favorite Judas, along with the rest of the cast, and anything they can do to make them sound better is a plus. The fact that this got filmed and the Broadway revival cast didn't even get to record a cast album is a total travesty. That cast sang circles around this one. I know not everyone agreed, but I loved it.
That's right! Underscore mother-fu@#ers!
Johnnycantdecide
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joined:6/1/11
Tim Minchin -V- Andrew Lloyd Webber
Posted: 2/7/13 at 09:42pm
I have over 100 recordings of JCS. It's easily my favorite show if only because I got obsessed with it when I was 15 and it made a huge impression on my at such a young age.
And Tim Minchin is easily in my top five favorite people who have ever played Judas. Tim was my favorite thing about the cast of the production as the rest of the cast was crazy boring/sub-par.
And that's coming from someone who really loved the newest Broadway revival cast (MUCH better than the 2001 revival).

I find the auto-tune amazingly apparent. It's really badly done and has the quality of the way the effect is used in a bad rap song. Especially toward the end of Heaven on Their Minds and during Judas' Death.
Mattbrain
Broadway Legend
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Tim Minchin -V- Andrew Lloyd Webber
Posted: 2/7/13 at 09:47pm
I can hear it too.
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g.d.e.l.g.i.
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Tim Minchin -V- Andrew Lloyd Webber
Posted: 2/7/13 at 10:24pm
I once came up with an all-star cast for JCS that I thought appropriate, but I don't think any of the people I chose would ever do it, so it's pointless to speculate.
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Johnnycantdecide
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Tim Minchin -V- Andrew Lloyd Webber
Posted: 2/7/13 at 10:53pm
I'd love to hear it, g.d.e.l.g.i.
Scarywarhol
Broadway Legend
joined:10/1/04
Tim Minchin -V- Andrew Lloyd Webber
Posted: 2/8/13 at 12:58pm
Boy, I would love to hear an unaltered live recording of Minchin in this role...
FireFingers
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Tim Minchin -V- Andrew Lloyd Webber
Posted: 2/8/13 at 01:22pm
You and me both.
Dave19
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joined:12/23/11
Tim Minchin -V- Andrew Lloyd Webber
Posted: 2/8/13 at 03:23pm
Well, autotune is only used to change the notes to the actual right note it has to be, when they are sung off-key because of the disability of the singer to sing on key. They are not autotuning a note that is right in the first place.

There is nothing more annoying than listening to a recording with a singer that is off-key all the time.

For example Ramin Karimloo, in the Phantom 25 Anniversary dvd I wish they autotuned his voice much more! In some songs NOT 1 note is on key. Speaking of unlistenable.

I bet it was just a bad reality check for Tim Minchin to hear his actual voice on CD in clear quality. CD's with clear sound have no mercy and often after doing concerts, the image in a singer's mind/memories of how it sounded are much better. A crappy bootleg recording from the audience through the speaker sound system of the venue is no comparison.
I agree that it can be very confrontational to suddenly hear how bad you actually sounded, but he should be a bit grateful that they at least made his notes sound on key.
g.d.e.l.g.i.
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Tim Minchin -V- Andrew Lloyd Webber
Posted: 2/8/13 at 03:37pm
Except we've heard the crappy bootleg recording and he wasn't bad. This AutoTune was applied in post-production, not live.
Formerly gvendo2005
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Dave19
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Tim Minchin -V- Andrew Lloyd Webber
Posted: 2/8/13 at 03:39pm
You can't compare the sound in an echoing arena to the vocals recorded on a soundboard, put on cd. You hear much more detail in the latter.



Updated On: 2/8/13 at 03:39 PM
Johnnycantdecide
Featured Actor
joined:6/1/11
Tim Minchin -V- Andrew Lloyd Webber
Posted: 2/8/13 at 03:48pm
Oh Dave...
Your logic is, as always, flawed.

Tim Minchin has four live CD's and a few singles. I have all of them. He knows what his voice sounds like. He has made a career singing.

The auto-tune was added to add in riffs and things of that nature. To make him sound like a pop star.

I have not so crappy bootlegs. Not to mention almost every review (professional and fan) and almost ALL of them universally praise Minchin (vocals included) while panning the rest of the cast/production.
Bettyboy72
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Tim Minchin -V- Andrew Lloyd Webber
Posted: 2/8/13 at 04:02pm
Who's Tim Minchkin?
"The sexual energy between the mother and son really concerns me!"-random woman behind me at Next to Normal "I want to meet him after and bang him!"-random woman who exposed her breasts at Rock of Ages, referring to James Carpinello
qolbinau
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Tim Minchin -V- Andrew Lloyd Webber
Posted: 2/8/13 at 04:33pm
He wrote the music and lyrics of MATILDA.
darquegk
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Tim Minchin -V- Andrew Lloyd Webber
Posted: 2/8/13 at 06:28pm
He's also a fairly successful indie musician-comedian; he is most famous for a series of atheism-themed songs he has recorded and performed on comedy shows and concert programs.

If you watch Californication, he is on the show this year as the Russell Brand expy.
tourboi
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Tim Minchin -V- Andrew Lloyd Webber
Posted: 2/8/13 at 09:55pm
You're right. The man who wrote the score isn't as equipped to decide things relating to the performance of his own piece.

Are you serious? The thing about JCS is that it can be interpreted many different ways, and ALW has embraced many of those incarnations. But to chastise the man because someone's performance was auto-tuned? Really? Ridiculous. It's his show.
Scarywarhol
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Tim Minchin -V- Andrew Lloyd Webber
Posted: 2/8/13 at 10:19pm
Andrew Lloyd Webber has made it painfully clear that he doesn't understand why this musical, which was Tim Rice's concept, succeeds in the first place. The very fact that he created a reality show around it shows how utterly ignorant he is of its message. At least now. At least in the form of the cynical hack that he has become.

Updated On: 2/8/13 at 10:19 PM