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aasjb4ever
Broadway Legend
joined:3/29/09
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Posted: 5/13/10 at 04:54pm
****ers!
(just know I find any excuse to blame the tony voters for anything)
But I guess I understand what they mean....
What a colossal piece of crap! It'll probably run for years.
ljay889
Broadway Legend
joined:8/4/04
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Posted: 5/13/10 at 04:58pm
Thank God. This is great news. That nomination was really bothering me.
#sadandtransparent
James885
Broadway Legend
joined:5/2/05
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Posted: 5/13/10 at 05:03pm
Good. I liked the revival but that costume nomination was undeserved, since they used the same costumes as the original production.
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everythingtaboo
Broadway Legend
joined:5/5/04
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Posted: 5/13/10 at 05:06pm
Not that I don't love Santo's work in general, but that nomination always confused me.


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adamgreer
Broadway Legend
joined:3/18/05
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Posted: 5/13/10 at 05:07pm
It makes sense, but again, it took them THIS long to realize that?

This really doesn't speak well for the intelligence of the people in charge of the Tonys, that they only just now realized this.

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Ryan4
Stand-by
joined:4/13/08
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Posted: 5/13/10 at 05:12pm
It was a head-scratcher from the beginning for me, since the costumes looked identical to my eye.

The real problem is that they didn't make this call before the nominations, which has deprived another designer of a nomination this year.

Doesn't change the competition at all, though. La Cage wins in a walk.
Mildred Plotka
Broadway Legend
joined:7/30/08
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Posted: 5/13/10 at 05:13pm
Okay here's what I think happened (a complete guess, but it makes a nice theory, I think):

The nominators at all costs didn't want to give a nomination to Addams Family in this category (as it would have won, likely). I thought the costumes were the most successful part of that production (and if the puppets are included in that design, moreso). When they saw that Ragtime slid in, they had to realize the costumes were the same, they thought this would be a perfect F.U. to the producers of Addams.
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Updated On: 5/13/10 at 05:13 PM
bjh2114
Broadway Legend
joined:4/19/06
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Posted: 5/13/10 at 06:03pm
I thought they grouped the puppets into set. Also, there were plenty of other shows they could have nominated instead. Like Night Music for instance.
dramamama611
Broadway Legend
joined:12/4/07
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Posted: 5/13/10 at 06:16pm
A CONSIPIRACY to keep Addams family from getting a WIN?




REALLY?? Oy.
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Michael Bennett
Broadway Legend
joined:3/16/05
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Posted: 5/13/10 at 06:20pm
Its a shame that no replacement nominee will be added to the ballot. in a season of so many worthy nominees (in this field) a mistake by the nominating committee shouldn't keep a deserving candidate from being included.
JoeKv99
Broadway Legend
joined:12/27/04
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Posted: 5/13/10 at 06:25pm
Absolutely- it was a "F-You" to Addams Family. If they would have nominated it, it would have won. Of course you could say that about Best Musical, too. I call it the "Aida" effect.
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Mildred Plotka
Broadway Legend
joined:7/30/08
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Posted: 5/13/10 at 06:29pm
I wouldn't go so far as to use the word conspiracy, but the omission was very intentional. I think they were snubbed in several places. Best Musical, Best Actor, Best Features Actress (Carolee), and the omitted design noms. I think the nominating committee knows that the voters are now mostly people who have money to gain/lose from these awards, and want to prevent Addams from sweeping because it will do well on the road.
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Jordan Catalano
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joined:10/9/05
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Posted: 5/13/10 at 06:30pm
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ljay889
Broadway Legend
joined:8/4/04
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Posted: 5/13/10 at 06:32pm
These nominations are such a joke sometime. Just nominate the worthy contenders. Was there really any need for La Cage to get every single design nomination? I do not think they were all deserved. That must have been another way of keeping Addams out.
#sadandtransparent
Updated On: 5/13/10 at 06:32 PM
Brick
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joined:11/21/06
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Posted: 5/13/10 at 06:47pm
ljay889, you've been yelling about this for awhile. You called it.
Marquise
Broadway Legend
joined:6/1/04
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Posted: 5/13/10 at 07:02pm
perfect reason why i don't buy into any of this award show crap. it's all fixed and rigged. total bvllsh!t...always was and always will be. that's why i like what i like regardless of how many awards it won or not.
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Mildred Plotka
Broadway Legend
joined:7/30/08
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Posted: 5/13/10 at 07:06pm
I also think some of the Ragtime nominations were a way ofsticking it to Promises. I actually really liked the costumes for Promises. Katie Finnerans jacket alone warrants a nomination.
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rjm516
Broadway Star
joined:6/24/09
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Posted: 5/13/10 at 07:09pm
The owl? Totally. Funniest line.

Some of the noms really are ridiculous. How could a mistake like this happen and persist for so long?? Makes no sense. A certain committee needs a kick in the arse to get its act together.
SNAFU
Broadway Legend
joined:4/20/04
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Posted: 5/13/10 at 07:10pm
I wonder if they will pull that nomination from the Drama Desk Awards too?
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ljay889
Broadway Legend
joined:8/4/04
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Posted: 5/13/10 at 07:26pm
The Drama Desk should also pull the nomination for Ragtime's orchestrations. They are the original orchestrations, and they won the Drama Desk in 1998! Totally puzzling.
#sadandtransparent
Marquise
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joined:6/1/04
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Posted: 5/13/10 at 07:32pm
You see, now they're just throwing names into the ring without any kind of knowledge or consideration because if they had recycled material wouldn't be re-nominated. Like I said: TOTAL CA-CA.