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The Woman in White- lord knows I tried

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The Woman in White- lord knows I tried#1
Posted: 1/28/10 at 1:37pm
OK, on a strange whim I thought I'd listen to the OCR again. I saw the show and thought it a dog's breakfast at the Palace. However, I wondered whether with a little distance the score might hold up- bearing in mind it was ALW's last score, and might indicate his direction for the grand spectacle we have been promised next month.

How wrong I was. What a shambles that score is! Sure, there are a couple of pretty themes, but overall, it is a shapeless mess. And as for those lyrics...

Has anyone else given The Woman in White a listen recently, or tried to re-assess a show like this?
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The Woman in White- lord knows I tried#2
Posted: 1/28/10 at 2:08pm
Personally really enjoyed the show (except Michael Crawford and the set design) and like the CD.

Beautiful Game however I cant listen to, its cringe worthy
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The Woman in White- lord knows I tried#2
Posted: 1/28/10 at 3:10pm
I really liked the show. I never saw Michael Crawford though.
I loved the set as it was something different ant impressive to me (I have studied, amongst other things, computer animation). I really did like the story and the music and the emotion worked for me.
It isn't a show I listen to regularly though. It doesn't have the same affect on me just listening to it where as other shows, especially Whistle Down the Wind, do.
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Posted: 1/28/10 at 4:02pm
To me, The Woman In White consists entirely of two of the most inappropriately catchy lines in any show:

#You beat me and you raped me!
And then you drowned my child!#

Had that stuck in my head for AGES. Grr.

The only word that works for me with this score is "blah". Bland romantic leads (Walter is completely uninteresting and saddled with not only the abysmal I Believe My Heart but the uninteresting Evermore Without You), bland villains, bland STORY of all things. It misses the appeal of a Wilkie Collins novel - the page-turning melodrama is all gone.

Don't start me on the lyrics. I actually think David Zippel is quite talented but only really when it comes to comic numbers; completely the wrong man for WiW.

As for other shows I've re-assessed, there's only a few I've come back to with a new positive life - I can only think of Sondheim, really, being too young when I first heard A Little Night Music and not really interested for Merrily We Roll Along. Turned around on those two though!

As for negative re-interpretations... I think Bare qualifies. When I first heard it I thought it was fresh and inspiring (and I still think Role Of A Lifetime in particular is a lovely song) but when the proper album came out it just sounds like what it is - whiny, stupid teenagers singing or "rapping" to the same repeated chord structures. I suspect the off-Broadway cast may have covered up holes in the material.

Oh, and I had a weird obsession with the Chichester cast recording of Pickwick when I was about 11 that hasn't carried on into adulthood. I can still do most of "Business Is Booming" off the top of my head, though, I sound like I have multiple personality disorder...
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The Woman in White- lord knows I tried#4
Posted: 1/28/10 at 5:59pm
Who was the genius who considered David Zippel, lyricist of City Of Angels, The Goodbye Girl and Disney's Hercules and Tarzan, a suitable candidate for the lyrics to a Victorian melodrama? His words were much too modern and slang-filled and his rhymes were the most obvious and cringe-inducing.
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The Woman in White- lord knows I tried#5
Posted: 1/28/10 at 6:23pm
I felt as sick watching 'Woman In white' as I did 'Avatar'!
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The Woman in White- lord knows I tried#6
Posted: 1/28/10 at 6:35pm
I enjoyed WIW but that does not stop me from agreeing with Hot John's post on David Zippel lyrics^^, which in some cases were appalling. I also had issues with the direction of this show, I felt Trevor Nunn was wrong for this assignment and the show relied on over use of projections, instead of old fashioned sets, there was a place for projections but it became OTT. However I did enjoy the show in most parts.

Perhaps I should read Wilkie Collins book, as this would aide a better judgement by me.
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The Woman in White- lord knows I tried#7
Posted: 1/28/10 at 6:39pm

Its Cannon And Ball

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The Woman in White- lord knows I tried#8
Posted: 1/28/10 at 7:01pm
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Posted: 1/28/10 at 7:31pm
Does any one remember if she happened to have a secret?

Or more accurately if she had a seeeeeeecret...
"I tend to think if god wanted us to believe in him, he'd exist" Linda Smith
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Posted: 1/29/10 at 5:32am
It wouldn't be one of my all time favourite shows but it was ok. I enjoyed Ruthie Henshall. It seemed a bit hit and miss tbh. I loved ever more without you... lyrics are beautiful. I didn't like a lot of the characters. My favourite bit was where she showed the bruises to her sister... that was harsh!
Jesus Loves You... Everybody else thinks you're an idiot!
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The Woman in White- lord knows I tried#11
Posted: 1/29/10 at 6:03am
And by extension, how will Glen Slater cope with Phantom 2?
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The Woman in White- lord knows I tried#12
Posted: 1/29/10 at 7:40am
About as well as Stilgoe & Hart did with the first one..
"I tend to think if god wanted us to believe in him, he'd exist" Linda Smith
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The Woman in White- lord knows I tried#13
Posted: 1/29/10 at 12:21pm
Ahh...

Wishing You Were Somehow Here Again

- my all time favourite song title tongue twister.
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The Woman in White- lord knows I tried#14
Posted: 1/29/10 at 4:09pm
I like this for the wrong reasons: you see I've always wanted to run down a railway track wearing nothing but a thin white nightdress whilst waving my arms in the air and screaming.
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The Woman in White- lord knows I tried#15
Posted: 1/29/10 at 6:14pm
That's no seeeeecret!