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Could one consider Drood a significant musical of musical theatre?

Could one consider Drood a significant musical of musical theatre?

jagfkb
#1Could one consider Drood a significant musical of musical theatre?
Posted: 6/14/09 at 9:22pm

As one who reads inbetween the lines of musical theatre history, aka, why certain shows are created in the first place (for example, Wicked and Hairspray lead to a number of other bubblegum pop and femenist based musicals), I recently brought up Drood as a major column in the history of musical theatre. In a world that at the time was dominated by Sondheim, Lloyd Webber, and pieces deeply rooted in messages, Drood, atleast in my opinion, came as a reminder of a good, old, classic musical comedy, with a few great numbers, a hilarious book, and just a feel-good, old, classic musical comedy. In some ways, I believe it lead to the continuation of creating such musical comedies, including The Will Rogers Follies, Crazy for You, and The Producers. Also, it was perhaps a sign of the times, as it's basic premise was to satarize the British epics which had been plaguing Broadway for some time. Furthermore, it was the first in perhaps many more to include both adlibbing and audience participation with it's unique voting system and always changing outcomes, for the first time in a while, a true public musical. Would I be correct in saying this, or am I digging way to deeply into this?

jagfkb
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CapnHook
#3re: Could one consider Drood a significant musical of musical theatre?
Posted: 6/14/09 at 9:53pm

I'm pretty sure Thoroughly Modern Millie was the original feminist musical of the 2000's...


"The Spectacle has, indeed, an emotional attraction of its own, but, of all the parts, it is the least artistic, and connected least with the art of poetry. For the power of Tragedy, we may be sure, is felt even apart from representation and actors. Besides, the production of spectacular effects depends more on the art of the stage machinist than on that of the poet."
--Aristotle

ZONEACE
#4re: Could one consider Drood a significant musical of musical theatre?
Posted: 6/14/09 at 9:55pm

Well its certainly not a significant musical of kabuki theatre.


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D2
#5re: Could one consider Drood a significant musical of musical theatre?
Posted: 6/14/09 at 9:57pm

"... the British epics which had been plaguing Broadway for some time."

Having played in Central Park in the summer of 1985 and opening on Broadway in December of that year, the only British mega-musical plaguing Broadway at the time DROOD premiered was CATS. DROOD predates almost all of the other "British epics" by at least two years.


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jagfkb
#6re: Could one consider Drood a significant musical of musical theatre?
Posted: 6/14/09 at 10:03pm

Evita? I'm not saying ALL British mega musicals, it just kept musical comedy in the publics eye. Also, if you ask a girl off the street for her favorite musical, you believe she'll say Millie?

#7re: Could one consider Drood a significant musical of musical theatre?
Posted: 6/14/09 at 10:07pm

I'd wager a dollar you'd get a half-dozen Millies before anyone mentions Drood.

jagfkb
#8re: Could one consider Drood a significant musical of musical theatre?
Posted: 6/14/09 at 10:13pm

That's really not the point. Successful musicals makethe basis for what's to come. Could Drood be considerred influential regarding the history of musical comedy?

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D2
#9re: Could one consider Drood a significant musical of musical theatre?
Posted: 6/14/09 at 10:14pm

No.


Cheyenne Jackson tickled me. AFTER ordering SoMMS a drink but NOT tickling him, and hanging out with Girly in his dressing room (where he DIDN'T tickle her) but BEFORE we got married. To others. And then he tweeted Boobs. He also tweeted he's good friends with some chick on "The Voice" who just happens to be good friends with Tink's ex. And I'm still married. Oh, and this just in: "Pettiness, spite, malice ....Such ugly emotions... So sad." - After Eight, talking about MEEEEEEEE!!! I'm so honored! :-)

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CapnHook
#10re: Could one consider Drood a significant musical of musical theatre?
Posted: 6/14/09 at 10:29pm

Nothing interested me in your original posting except the statement about Wicked and Hairspray being feminist pieces. While 'feminist' may not be the proper word, it does have a valid notion that there have been a lot of "heroine"-lead musicals recently (I mean, there have ALWAYS been leading-lady shows, but a show written today is a little diff'rent after the women's movement).

Which of these original 2000's musicals are "feminist?"
JANE EYRE
FOLLIES
MAMMA MIA!
THOROUGHLY MODERN MILLIE
HAIRSPRAY
WICKED
CAROLINE, OR CHANGE
LITTLE WOMEN
THE LIGHT IN THE PIAZZA
THE COLOR PURPLE
THE DROWSY CHAPERONE
GREY GARDENS
MARY POPPINS
THE PIRATE QUEEN
LEGALLY BLONDE
9 TO 5
and this doesn't include plays!


"The Spectacle has, indeed, an emotional attraction of its own, but, of all the parts, it is the least artistic, and connected least with the art of poetry. For the power of Tragedy, we may be sure, is felt even apart from representation and actors. Besides, the production of spectacular effects depends more on the art of the stage machinist than on that of the poet."
--Aristotle

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CapnHook
#11re: Could one consider Drood a significant musical of musical theatre?
Posted: 6/14/09 at 10:32pm

I'd say it's safe to label these are "feminist"... (I don't know WHY that comment sparked this fascination ...!)
MAMMA MIA!
THOROUGHLY MODERN MILLIE
CAROLINE, OR CHANGE
THE COLOR PURPLE
THE PIRATE QUEEN
LEGALLY BLONDE
9 TO 5


"The Spectacle has, indeed, an emotional attraction of its own, but, of all the parts, it is the least artistic, and connected least with the art of poetry. For the power of Tragedy, we may be sure, is felt even apart from representation and actors. Besides, the production of spectacular effects depends more on the art of the stage machinist than on that of the poet."
--Aristotle

sparrman
#12re: Could one consider Drood a significant musical of musical theatre?
Posted: 6/15/09 at 12:14am

I don't think there's much basis for thinking of Drood as "significant" or "influential". I think it's significant in terms of the quality of the music, but that's personal opinion. As for "influential", there haven't exactly been a large number of multiple-ending shows since, have there? An excellent show to be sure, but rather a "one-off".

JBSinger
#13re: Could one consider Drood a significant musical of musical theatre?
Posted: 6/15/09 at 12:23pm

As light and wonderful as this show is, I don't think it inspired any new trends or broke new ground. It has a delightful score that is winningly sung by an AMAZING cast. It's a shame it hasn't really entered the stock repertory. it's a very accessible show, but barely anyone (outside of this Board) has heard of it.

jejr
#14re: Could one consider Drood a significant musical of musical theatre?
Posted: 6/15/09 at 12:26pm

DROOD was a fluke. Not a really good or great show. At times the book was confusing and amaturish. The album is one I haven't played since listening to it when it first came out.

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frontrowcentre2
#15re: Could one consider Drood a significant musical of musical theatre?
Posted: 6/15/09 at 12:42pm

I don't think DROOD was in any way significant or influential. It wasn't even a hit, it closed with a loss.

I always felt it would have run longer if it had played a smaller theatre where they could have created more of a traditional music hall feel. Nothing from the score has ever really caught on. The cast album has been out-of-print more than in-print. It's available used on Amazon ranging from $75 to $213!


Cast albums are NOT "soundtracks."
Live theatre does not use a "soundtrack." If it did, it wouldn't be live theatre!

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#16re: Could one consider Drood a significant musical of musical theatre?
Posted: 6/15/09 at 12:53pm

Drood did not satirize the British mega-musicals in the least. It was a loving tribute to the old London music hall theatricals, but there was nothing in modern or contemporary Broadway that was being satirized at all (Evita and Cats being the only big British hit musicals to have opened in the previous decade). Drood has a charming book, noted for its variety of endings, and a very strong catchy score. Yes, it was more of a standard musical comedy, but standard musical comedies were pretty well-represented at the time:

Sugar Babies - 1979-82
Hollywood/Ukraine - 1980-81
42nd Street - 1980-89
Woman of the Year - 1981-83
Best Little Whorehouse in Texas - 1978-82
My One and Only - 1983-85
La Cage aux Folles - 1983-87

Add the revivals and take a good look at the other musicals running in the 80s prior to Drood and you'll see that Drood actually lead to nothing, really. Me and My Girl would have come along anyway is it was already a hit in London before Drood opened on Broadway. Drood is good, solid show with a cute gimmick (though Shear Madness did it first, I believe) and boasted a fantastic original cast. But it was not influential.


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Jon
#17re: Could one consider Drood a significant musical of musical theatre?
Posted: 6/15/09 at 1:05pm

Don't forget Ayn Rand's "The Night of January 16th", a courtroom drama with an onstage jury made up of audience members (chosen before the play begins)who decide on the guilt or innocence of the defendant.

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tazber
#18re: Could one consider Drood a significant musical of musical theatre?
Posted: 6/15/09 at 1:17pm

Without Drood, there would be no "musical theater" as we know it today.

It's the single most important theatrical event of the 20th century.


....but the world goes 'round

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Pgenre
#19re: Could one consider Drood a significant musical of musical theatre?
Posted: 6/15/09 at 6:34pm

Only if you like pina coladas and getting caught in the rain.

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