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songs for a new world

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songs for a new world#1
Posted: 5/22/08 at 12:08pm
has anyone else heard about "songs for a new world" being done in NYC this fall?
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re: songs for a new world#2
Posted: 5/22/08 at 12:12pm
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re: songs for a new world#2
Posted: 5/22/08 at 12:20pm
I don't know about the fall, but I do know there is a production being mounted this weekend at The Mint Theater (311 W. 43rd st.) The college I graduated from mounts a different show off-off Broadway each year and this year its 'Songs for New World'. I don't know too much else about it other than I'll be there Saturday night.
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re: songs for a new world#3
Posted: 5/22/08 at 1:00pm
I saw a listing on playbill.com looking for actors - said it was performing in NYC this fall . . . the listing isn't up anymore . . . and I just found this on http://networkedartists.tribe.net/threads/rss . . .

PHOTO/RESUME REQUEST FOR 'SONGS FOR A NEW WORLD', NEW YORK

Thurs. May 15 and Fri. May 16 by appointment only. At Grey Matters Productions, 273 Bennett Ave., #4D. NYC. Grey Matters Productions is casting for its upcoming production of Songs for a New World. This is a union/non-union production and will be a (pending) AEA Showcase with a stipend available. Breakdown: Looking for all ethnicities, must KNOW/LOVE this show. Man 1: 20s, athletic singer/dancer. Tenor to C (Rock/R&B falsetto extension a plus), comfortable with intricate harmonies. Woman 1: 20s, singer/dancer. Soprano with contemporary lyric belt to Eb, mix to G, Comfortable with intricate harmonies. Man 2: 40s/50, singer/dancer. Mezzo with Broadway belt to D, Comfortable with intricate harmonies. Woman 2: 40s/50s, singer/dancer. Mezzo, with Broadway belt to D, Comfortable with intricate harmonies. Teenage Ensemble: 14-18 years, m/f singer/dancer. All must be comfortable singing intricate, close harmonies throughout their ranges. Sopranos to Bb, Belts to D (preferably E), Altos to F, Tenors to Bb, Baritones to F (some to Ab). Rehearsals in September, performances in October. Send your headshot and resume to: Bailie Slevin, 273 Bennett Ave. #4D, New York, NY 10040. Or send to songs.producer@gmail.com.

I didn't think JRB let the show go up in NYC.

Updated On: 5/22/08 at 01:00 PM
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re: songs for a new world#4
Posted: 5/22/08 at 1:14pm
First of all, you just answered your own question. So there you go.

Secondly, this isn't Broadway. Is it even off-Broadway? Sounds like a regional limited run.

"I didn't think JRB let the show go up in NYC"

Uhh... well... if they get the rights, they can do it wherever they want. Jason Robert Brown doesn't really have much say in that.
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re: songs for a new world#5
Posted: 5/22/08 at 2:03pm
I'm not trying to be rude. I just wanted to know if anyone else had heard anything more about this production . . . so, no, I didn't answer my own question.

Also, no one can get the rights to the show with out JRBs approval - any living writer or estates of deceased writers have to give approval before the rights for a show are released. Writers/composers have ALL the power in releasing the rights unless they have sold them outright and very few do that. And as far as I know, JRB has never released the rights in NYC before, not since he MDed the original.

And yes, it is clearly not being performed on Broadway, but so few productions start there these days. Also, the ad said it was being done as an AEA Showcase, which is a limited run, but not required to be regional, and can be done with Broadway performers . . . so still pretty exciting to me since I love this show and didn't get to see the original 13 years ago.

So - that is why, when I came across this message board, I thought it was a good place to aske if anyone else had heard anything about this production.
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re: songs for a new world#6
Posted: 5/22/08 at 2:29pm
Composers have no say, if a liscening company owns the rights. MTI owns "Songs For A New World"
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re: songs for a new world#7
Posted: 5/22/08 at 3:09pm
This was clearly the wrong place for me to bring my excitement. I thought the community on this message board would be open to discussing this show and how exciting it is that is aparantly coming back to NYC, but given the response I guess not.

And also, "TooDarnHot" you really might want to check your facts before you make some of those statements again.
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re: songs for a new world#8
Posted: 5/22/08 at 3:28pm
Apologies, starsandthemoon. I'd like to say that this sort of "in your face" response is rare here but you know the way public forums are (or maybe you don't). The disconnect brought about by typing and posting rather than speaking face to face affords some people the belief - incorrect as it may be - that they can be cold, acrid, and/or allow their opinions to overrule all others. (read: one opinion to rule them all)

As for how to cope? - literally block out the bs. I simply don't read anything that toodarnhot writes anymore. It's as simple as that. No offense to him. I am sure some people enjoy his style of post...it just doesn't interest me. Similarly, I never read posts about Mama Mia...I just filter out the things that don't interest me.

Unfortunately, coming in here for the first time, you have no idea who the true lovers of musical theater are...and who the zealots or shills or folks out for nothing more than drama are. So I do apologize.

I appreciate your excitement and bet that others do as well. Ignore the "First of all"s and the "Ummm...well...if they had rights" - it's all fluff and a waste of your eyes.

...or pick out the facts that they state and ignore the tone. Their finger strokes aren't worth the emotion.
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re: songs for a new world#9
Posted: 5/22/08 at 3:29pm
The facts are right here: http://www.MTIshows.com/show_home.asp?id=000191

MTI owns the rights, dear.

It's been performed in New York City before. My partner was actually involved in a NY production of it in early 2007.
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re: songs for a new world#10
Posted: 5/22/08 at 3:30pm
Songs for a New World played as a concert version here in the Washington DC area with JRB on piano.

Alice Ripley was in it... She was wonderful.

I have always liked the music but I know that unless there is a clause about the compose or writer having final say, most shows can be done as much and as many time as the company who owns the rights feels they want it done. And I do believe MTI does own the rights so they can allow one or one million productions to play... it is not up to JRB.
"Whenever I get gloomy with the state of the world, I think about the arrivals gate at Heathrow Airport. General opinion's starting to make out that we live in a world of hatred and greed, but I don't see that. It seems to me that love is everywhere. Often it's not particularly dignified or newsworthy, but it's always there - fathers and sons, mothers and daughters, husbands and wives, boyfriends, girlfriends, old friends. When the planes hit the Twin Towers, as far as I know none of the phone calls from the people on board were messages of hate or revenge - they were all messages of love. If you look for it, I've got a sneaky feeling you'll find that love actually is all around."
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re: songs for a new world#11
Posted: 5/22/08 at 3:41pm
See...now what you do, Starsandthemoon, is use the link he included, read the facts, learn from them and ignore the "mti owns the right, dear" and all the other attitude. He has some good information when you boil it down to the essentials. He just didn't need to include anything but the link in that post.
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re: songs for a new world#12
Posted: 5/22/08 at 3:56pm
some of us are also just big blobs of blabber who like to write in order to see his words in print.... oh wait, that would be me!

I just wish that Jason Robert Brown and Andrew Lippa would get together and create a musical... Now there would be a show!
"Whenever I get gloomy with the state of the world, I think about the arrivals gate at Heathrow Airport. General opinion's starting to make out that we live in a world of hatred and greed, but I don't see that. It seems to me that love is everywhere. Often it's not particularly dignified or newsworthy, but it's always there - fathers and sons, mothers and daughters, husbands and wives, boyfriends, girlfriends, old friends. When the planes hit the Twin Towers, as far as I know none of the phone calls from the people on board were messages of hate or revenge - they were all messages of love. If you look for it, I've got a sneaky feeling you'll find that love actually is all around."
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re: songs for a new world#13
Posted: 5/22/08 at 4:25pm
"I simply don't read anything that toodarnhot writes anymore"

If you don't read what I write, how were you able to quote me in your post?

LuPwned.
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re: songs for a new world#14
Posted: 5/22/08 at 5:03pm
Damn! You caught me in a technicality...and there I go again. By merely typing this I am furthering my COMPLETE humiliation.

As for Songs for a New World...I would like to see a production of this, as I have never seen one before.

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re: songs for a new world#15
Posted: 5/22/08 at 5:35pm
jrb - I do love you. let's get married...


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re: songs for a new world#16
Posted: 6/6/08 at 10:40pm
you were right starsandthemoon. this is the first NYC production of sfanw that JRB has ok'd since its run off-bway
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re: songs for a new world#17
Posted: 6/7/08 at 12:09am
Yeah, I was just cast in the production at the ATA and they said this is the first time JRB has allowed it in NY since its off bway run.
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re: songs for a new world#18
Posted: 6/7/08 at 12:17am
I was involved in one regional production. The set and the overall concept (or lack thereof) were ghastly, and the actors were completely full of themselves--but they sang it gorgeously, and it was thrilling just to hear that music every night.
I ask in all honesty/What would life be?/Without a song and a dance, what are we?/So I say "Thank you for the music/For giving it to me."
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re: songs for a new world#19
Posted: 6/7/08 at 2:00am
Jake... perhaps it's the first NY production Jason personally "sanctioned" but his approval means nothing.

there was a NY production in 2007 licensed my MTI. the company that owns the rights
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re: songs for a new world#20
Posted: 6/7/08 at 7:06pm
Yeah, I don't doubt there was. The sheet just said it was the first production jason robert brown has allowed, so who knows what it means. just thought i would add that in because it seemed interesting.
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re: songs for a new world#21
Posted: 10/20/08 at 12:22pm
RE: Jason Robert Brown letting people do this show, I found this article on another message board about this show:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/19/nyregion/new-jersey/19songsnj.html?ref=new-jersey

Hope that clears things up.

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