Mixed reports, but sadly looking very likely. A plane has crashed in Ukraine, an area that has been riddled with warplanes and missiles over the past few weeks. Conflicting reports suggest the plane was shot down by Russia. If it was, what happens next? Frightening....
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It would be an uncharacteristically stupid blunder on Putin's part to have his military be proven to have shot down either the Ukrainian fighter planes or the Malaysian passenger plane, when all he has to do is supply the Ukrainian separatists who are more than happy to do the dirty work themselves.
But it helps the Ukrainian cause to point the finger directly at Russia, rather than at nameless, faceless, possibly sympathetic "rebels."
It looks like the separatists did it by mistake, which the Ukrainians will use to brand them as terrorists. Putin will have to wiggle out of the fact that everything the separatists do is done with Russian supplies.
What news are you watching? This came out 30 minutes ago.
"It remains unclear if Americans were on board the flight, although officials said that 154 passengers, a majority, were Dutch. In addition, 27 Australians, 23 Malaysians, 11 Indonesians, 6 British, 4 Belgians and 1 Canadian."
European news is reporting that 23 of the ticket holders on the manifest were American. Their identities have yet to be released until the US has confirmation that they were aboard. There is a photo circulating that was taken at the scene of a pile of passports found in the wreckage, several of which are from the US. Perhaps some didn't make the flight, but no one has said there were no Americans aboard the plane.
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One belief seems to be that the missile was never intended for the plane. One THEORY is that the missile missed its intended target, but since it is a heat seeking weapon, it found the plane.
How incredibly sad. And, of course, how bizarre for two tragedies to happen to the same airline, within such a short time.
Rest in peace to all the innocent.
(All planes have been diverted, NONE are flying over anywhere near the Russia/Ukraine border.)
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That theory seems plausible, as from what I have read, they only very recently acquired these powerful missiles. A passenger jet would be flying much higher than a military plane. I just can't imagine why flights weren't already diverted, considering the recent attacks on military planes in the area.
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My news just reported that there has been NO confirmation whether there are any Americans on board, but did mention there may have been as many as 80 children.
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The more than 100 scientists on board who were on way to the 20th International AIDS Conference included the man who had pioneered the antiretroviral therapy that is revolutionizing HIV prevention. He was also the world's leading expert and activist on the prevention of mother-to-child transmission of HIV.
He was also the father of five girls.
His loss to his family--and the whole world--is inestimable.
They have GOT to somehow work to secure the area and crash site. I know it covers a number of miles, and there are issues with getting the proper officials to it, but the photos of people just wandering among the debris make me sick.
The whole thing makes me sick.
Heartbreaking losses.
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