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smallworld
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Flop Musicals
Posted: 8/24/13 at 09:08pm
I'm sure there have been plenty of threads like this before, but what are some flop musicals that you still love, regardless of the fact that they didn't do so well? Mine would be Breakfast at Tiffany's and Carrie.
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millie_dillmount
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joined:4/22/04
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Posted: 8/24/13 at 10:44pm
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Updated On: 8/24/13 at 10:44 PM
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blaxx
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joined:6/28/05
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Posted: 8/24/13 at 10:46pm
I bet this turns into a "that show was not a flop!" thread.
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FlowerChild67
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joined:7/11/12
Flop Musicals
Posted: 8/25/13 at 06:26am
Bonnie and Clyde. I just love nearly everything about it (I would say everything,
But Made In America exists, soo...) And I'm convinced that if Porgy and Bess had been another season, Laura Osnes would have gotten the Tony.

Also, Anyone Can Whistle and Merrily We Roll Along were originally both flops, and I adore both shows.
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chewy5000
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joined:12/1/09
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Posted: 8/25/13 at 06:33am
But they're both classics! That means they weren't flops!!1!!!one!
IMHO I see Queenie as being more of a brunette...
ARTc3
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joined:8/5/13
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Posted: 8/25/13 at 11:02am
As I type this I am listing to Via Galactica! One incredible kind poster read my interest of hearing this show again - I saw it when I was a teen - and had a bootleg copy. Via Galactica was a flop and deserved to be so, but it is wonderful to hear Galt McDermott's score again after all of these years.
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Mr Roxy
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joined:5/17/03
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Posted: 8/25/13 at 11:11am
Via was a flop losing $7500000 .Today a loss of that ain't that bad.

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CarlosAlberto
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joined:6/29/10
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Posted: 8/25/13 at 11:18am
But they're both classics! That means they weren't flops!!1!!!one!

chewy5000, you can't re-write history. The original Broadway productions of ANYONE CAN WHISTLE and MERRILY WE ROLL ALONG both flopped.
ARTc3
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Posted: 8/25/13 at 11:26am
On Via Galactic... 750K was huge then. You have to adjust for inflation.
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Someone in a Tree2
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joined:10/9/12
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Posted: 8/25/13 at 03:39pm
Flops I loved that deserve revivals:

The Robber Bridegroom
The Rink
A Man of No Importance

and one day, Bonnie and Clyde
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g.d.e.l.g.i.
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joined:6/13/12
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Posted: 8/25/13 at 03:43pm
On Via Galactic... 750K was huge then. You have to adjust for inflation.

Courtesy of the online Inflation Rate Calculator, that loss (in 2013 dollars) is $4,191,315.79.
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bwayphreak234
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Posted: 8/25/13 at 03:49pm
Bonnie and Clyde and Women on the Verge. They are both on my list for my favorite new musicals of the 21st century.
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ARTc3
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Posted: 8/25/13 at 03:52pm
g.d.e.l.g.i. thank you for that. I was actually wondering what that would be and too lazy to find a calculator on the Internet. $4M is still a relatively small price to pay for a musical today.

As Via Galactica has been recently been called, the Spider-man of its time, I wonder if Broadway has inflated at a much greater rate than the general economy. And, if so, why?

This is a topic for Ken Davenport and The Producer's Perspective.



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Updated On: 8/25/13 at 03:52 PM
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Mr Roxy
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Posted: 8/25/13 at 05:11pm
Simple answer. Broadway prices have greatly increased over rate of inflation
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PTOPhan
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Posted: 8/25/13 at 11:41pm
Mr. Roxy and ArtC3, I read recently that, in the early days of Broadway, it was considered bad form to raise prices during a run. That changed towards the end of the 20th century, and may have contributed to the incredibly long runs of such shows as You-Know-What. It also may have contributed to skyrocketing ticket prices.

Another possibility is the expensive staging that many musicals require -- crashing chandeliers, helicopters, flying actors, and stuntpeople are becoming common, whereas in the "old days," they were much less common.

I wish that the National Endowment for the Arts had enough funding to contribute a bundle to Broadway, and help reduce ticket prices.
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