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Phantom of London
#1New York Times
Posted: 7/13/13 at 6:09pm

Does anyone know how to get round the New York Times subscription please?

aaronb
#2New York Times
Posted: 7/13/13 at 6:46pm

Nope.

capnkidd
#2New York Times
Posted: 7/13/13 at 6:52pm

You're seriously asking us how to help you steal? They give you 10 free articles a month. If that isn't enough, pay for a subscription. It's a service. They deserve to get paid.

It isn't that expensive.

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HorseTears
#3New York Times
Posted: 7/13/13 at 6:53pm

Marry well.

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ABB2357
#4New York Times
Posted: 7/13/13 at 7:29pm

Clear your cookies or use a different browser. The cookies are what they use to determine how many articles you've read over a period of time.

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dramamama611
#5New York Times
Posted: 7/13/13 at 7:29pm

Surely, if their articles are worth reading, they are worth paying for. Or do you think the columnists, reporters, editors and managers don't deserve to be paid?


If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it? These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
Updated On: 7/13/13 at 07:29 PM

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Jane2
#6New York Times
Posted: 7/13/13 at 8:00pm

Why don't you want to pay for it?


<-----I'M TOTES ROLLING MY EYES

SamIAm2
#7New York Times
Posted: 7/13/13 at 8:17pm

You do realize that you're being dishonest here, right?

capnkidd
#8New York Times
Posted: 7/13/13 at 8:22pm

"Clear your cookies or use a different browser. The cookies are what they use to determine how many articles you've read over a period of time."

Using a different browser might work, but clearing your cookies will not. I know this b/c I always clear my cookies when I turn off my computer. I wasn't aware for a long time that there was a 10 article limit, b/c of my practice of routinely clearing cookies.

One day, I was doing a lot of research and hit the limit in one day. The next day, I was able to access them again and realized why. I figured it wasn't up to me to police myself, so I carried on as usual. One day a few months ago, they closed the cookie loophole, at which point I bought a subscription. Quite inexpensive, for what you get.

mordav
#9New York Times
Posted: 7/13/13 at 10:50pm

Well, I used to think I was an honest person, and that I respected and valued the hard work of others - men and women like the journalists at the esteemed New York Times. I used to scorn and sneer at individuals like "Phantom of London" and label them as "entitled". Even as I read the original post, I imagined some snotty-nosed Gen Y'er who felt he was owed.
But sadly, it appears, I am a hypocrite. I followed ABB2357's suggestion and switched browser and there for the taking were 10 more New York Times articles. And I took.
Oh the dissonance. Now I will have to face the fact I am not the honorable man I once thought I was, acknowledge my sanctimony. I apologize Phantom. Or I could just try and convince myself that the Times is a large organization and it isn't really stealing, and besides no-one is getting hurt. No, damn it, that doesn't seem to be working.
I hope those of you who criticized Phantom are better than myself. I am sure you are.

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Jane2
#10New York Times
Posted: 7/13/13 at 11:00pm

oh please.


<-----I'M TOTES ROLLING MY EYES

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MaddieBB12
#11New York Times
Posted: 7/13/13 at 11:17pm

I know some articles are online only, but you could always just buy the paper.

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kdogg36
#12New York Times
Posted: 7/14/13 at 9:22am

I think you can still search for the article at news.google.com and access it from there.

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yankeefan7
#13New York Times
Posted: 7/14/13 at 9:27am

I just use my 10 free articles for theater and I have rarely ever used all my 10 free articles in a month. My wife registered also because her tastes in articles are different than mine but has offered to share some of her free ones if necessary.

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dramamama611
#14New York Times
Posted: 7/14/13 at 9:59am

Yes, mordav, I am a better person than you. (At least in this matter.) I do not take what is not offered to me. I turn found money in, I give the cashier any incorrect change he may have given me.

So don't tear down others to try to make yourself feel better.


If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it? These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.

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kdogg36
#15New York Times
Posted: 7/14/13 at 10:12am

I generally agree that you should pay people the asking price if you want what they're offering. But I have never had any qualms about using the google method the few times I've wanted to view more than ten articles a month; it doesn't seem to be against anyone's rules.

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NYadgal
#16New York Times
Posted: 7/14/13 at 10:36am

...and when people lose jobs because the business can no longer support them, because so many people are stealing or finding ways to cheat the system... we'll know who to blame.

It's a business. It's not a 'right' for you to have access to information that people work hard to provide to paying customers.


"Two drifters off to see the world. There's such a lot of world to see. . ."

mordav
#17New York Times
Posted: 7/14/13 at 10:50am

"So don't tear down others to try to make yourself feel better."

Huh?

I just reread my post to see if there was some unintended tearing down of others or making myself feel better. Who was it I was tearing down? The journalists? But not really. And how was I making myself feel better by said tearing down?

Generally, I wouldn't think of tearing someone down to make myself feel better. And who on earth would use some Message Board to try and make themselves feel better. Or assume that anyone would. Take your projections somewhere else, please. Maybe not so much better than me after all.

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dramamama611
#18New York Times
Posted: 7/14/13 at 10:52am

Your very last sentence of your first post seemed quite judgemental to me. If that was not your intention, I apologize.


If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it? These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.

Liza's Headband
#19New York Times
Posted: 7/14/13 at 10:53am

mordav is a thief and a troll, dramamama. Not worth your time!!! New York Times

whatever2
#20New York Times
Posted: 7/14/13 at 11:05am

violating a content creator's terms of service is theft of his/her/its intellectual property, plain and simple. it is baffling and disheartening that something so basic is subject to debate on an ARTS message board of all places.

kdogg: the google method does not violate the NYT's TOS, but it definitely does an end-run around them. Because there is no prohibition, this is kind of grey area -- I've often thought it would be interesting to ask the Times' ethicist about it! -- but for goodness sake, please have a least SOME qualms about what you're doing!

mordav: your first response DRIPPED with sarcasm ... so much so that it's hard to imagine it was unintentional. thus, as I suspect you already know, the people dramamama (accurately) concluded you were tearing down are your fellow BWWers, not the journalists at the Times (the latter you're cheating, not dissing).

this is a small example of a serious issue - if content really does become free, it's also going to become schlock.


"You, sir, are a moron." (PlayItAgain)
Updated On: 7/14/13 at 11:05 AM

mordav
#21New York Times
Posted: 7/14/13 at 11:34am

Well this has been an interesting experience. Accusations of being judgmental and sarcastic and disrespectful and a troll no less (really, Liza's Headband). The accusation of thief, well that one I have to wear, as I did take the extra articles. But the rest is down to your inferences. The original post, while perhaps not humorous, was intended to be entirely self-deprecating in nature. And if read as written, that is obvious - it wasn't "dripping with sarcasm". That's how you read it. I don't know why. But you did.

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Kad
#22New York Times
Posted: 7/14/13 at 11:40am

Considering "old media" like the NYTimes have had a hell of a time adjusting to the advent of the Internet, and now the company is surviving off of subscription revenue rather than ad revenue- yes, not subscribing if you use their services more than the alotted monthly amount is doing them harm.


"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."

Liza's Headband
#23New York Times
Posted: 7/14/13 at 12:02pm

Because that was the intention behind it, whether you choose to openly admit it or not. Move on, mordav. And stop stealing.

Gothampc
#24New York Times
Posted: 7/14/13 at 12:12pm

Some of you need to go back to ethics class. If you want to see a Broadway show, you should pay for it or go through proper channels like seeing it at Lincoln Center Library, not watch bootlegs or copies on YouTube.


If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.