Yeah. I just say I am really grateful for ALL of the sexual experiences I had with men in their 30s and 40s when I was in my late teens. I woulda been freaked out if any of them did puppet voices, I think.
I, alas, didn't have that. But there was a moment that it could have happened. I was 17 and the guy was in his mid to late 20's. He was adorable...and knew I had a crush on him. Somehow...I think I would have been a-ok if I was introduced to the ways of the flesh by this guy.
If we can have someone in their fifties marry a teenager, and have that not be a legal matter. Can we not at least wait until all the details come out on Clash before hanging him? After all, Clash did say that he waited until the guy was 18. Secondly I think that this whole thing is quickly turning into a he said/he said debate between the two of them.
And, when you're portraying the poster child of wholesome children's entertainment, it would't shock me to find out that Clash had to lie in public forums about being gay.
"If you try to shag my husband while I am still alive, I will shove the art of motorcycle maintenance up your rancid little Cu**. That's a good dear"
Tom Stoppard's Rock N Roll
Being Elmo was a good doc but the fact that Clash only talked about his ex-wife through the context of his daughter and really not much else on his personal life, I guess Clash as producer of the oc wanted him to just portray himself as married to the job, seemed a little bit telling. But I never thought it was because that marriage may have dissolved due to his closeted sexuality.
Was his sexuality ever an open secret to his co-workers? I cannot imagine an instance where Sesame Street would be nothing but supportive of their performers. Yes it is a kids program but there is something with Elmo that is for a specifically young children that. I could see had Clash came out years ago there would be backlash. But it still could have done a lot of good if he did.
Also because Elmo is for younger children I was worried the abuse allegation were from an incident with a young child. So needless to say I was a little relieved when the age came out. Now had I been the parent of this kid would I be happy about finding out that my 16 year old was with a middle aged man? Doubt it,
Kevin came out about 10-12 years ago I believe to his co-workers, though I think it was an openly known secret to those who worked close with him. Even back in the late 1980's he basically lived here in NYC leaving his wife and daughter in Baltimore. CTW and Sesame Street woud not have a problem with an openly gay performer, though I am sure his contract with them has a morality clause. It is the thing they are using evidently with the internet abuse thing to have him step down while he straightens this thing out.
Those Blocked: SueStorm. N2N Nate. Good riddence to stupid! Rad-Z, shill begone!
Didn't Courtney's parents sign off on their marriage though? Or she's legal in the state they married in? I forget the details.
My comments earlier about 25 to life weren't meant to be taken seriously.
How do we know that Clash wasn't 100% hands off before the kid turned 18? Couldn't dirty talk and lewd behavior, however "innocent" still be considered a crime?
While I don't really think a 16 year old with a middle aged man (or woman) is a good idea, there's been so little context about this given, it's hard to judge. The way the story has been played by the media does initially seem to be aimed at making people think he was inolved with one of the pre-pubescent children he worked with on the show.
And wait--the original link says The Count died?? When was that? (And here I still remember how upsetting the death of Mr Hooper was--one of my earliest memories).
According to The Times, the accuser has recanted and admits that the relationship was between consenting adults. Now we get to see what effect this has on the rest of Kevin Clash's life.
Eric, Jerry Nelson, who was the original puppeteer and voice actor for the Count, died back in the end of August. Though he was no longer serving as the puppeteer for the Count due to his age and health, he continued to voice the character until he died. I don't know if they have retired the character or if others have taken on the voice acting, but I assume the mention in the article was more in reference to Nelson's passing than to them actually killing the Count off on Sesame Street.