Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 8/21/16- Page 2
Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 8/21/16
RippedMan
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/14/05
#25Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 8/21/16
Posted: 8/22/16 at 9:58pm
Stage42 is such a KILLER venue. Great site lines, big bathrooms. It's a really great venue that I wish they could find a long running tenant for. I mean, the backstage is spacious. State of the art, etc. It just sucks that it sits empty half the time. I mean it's not that far off the map. PH and Theatre Row seem to be doing fine, and Signature draws crowds. I know Stage 42 is commercial, but still.
Surprised The Humans hasn't recouped. I don't quite understand producing, but how much money would it have cost to move it from non-profit Off-Broadway to for-profit Broadway? I mean it ran awhile and never seemed to lose money. And playing to 3/4 a house isn't bad at all. Look at Phantom, it doesn't sell-out every performance and it's been running for 20 years.
#26Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 8/21/16
Posted: 8/22/16 at 10:05pm
Headley was out of four shows last week, so that might be the cause of such a big drop. I have to wonder who the producers are looking at to replace Headley since it seems she's extended possibly until the end of September. I hope the show keeps going through the end of the year at least & that Erivo has extended until then. It's weekly nut can't be that high. Small set, small cast, small orchestra. I doubt their weekly nut is more than $550K a week depending on the three leads' salaries.
A Chorus Line revival played its final Broadway performance on August 17, 2008. The tour played its final performance on August 21, 2011. A new non-equity tour started in October 2012 played its final performance on March 23, 2013. Another non-equity tour launched on January 20, 2018. The tour ended its US run in Kansas City and then toured throughout Japan August & September 2018.
#27Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 8/21/16
Posted: 8/22/16 at 10:10pm
also, WICKED's capacity has been slumping. How soon before tickets start to pop up at TKTS(even at just 20% off). It's still bringing in solid grosses, but if there's 200 unsold seats, why not offer up some kind of [small] discount now?
A Chorus Line revival played its final Broadway performance on August 17, 2008. The tour played its final performance on August 21, 2011. A new non-equity tour started in October 2012 played its final performance on March 23, 2013. Another non-equity tour launched on January 20, 2018. The tour ended its US run in Kansas City and then toured throughout Japan August & September 2018.
#28Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 8/21/16
Posted: 8/22/16 at 10:14pm
RippedMan said: "Stage42 is such a KILLER venue. Great site lines, big bathrooms. It's a really great venue that I wish they could find a long running tenant for. I mean, the backstage is spacious. State of the art, etc. It just sucks that it sits empty half the time. I mean it's not that far off the map. PH and Theatre Row seem to be doing fine, and Signature draws crowds. I know Stage 42 is commercial, but still.
Surprised The Humans hasn't recouped. I don't quite understand producing, but how much money would it have cost to move it from non-profit Off-Broadway to for-profit Broadway? I mean it ran awhile and never seemed to lose money. And playing to 3/4 a house isn't bad at all. Look at Phantom, it doesn't sell-out every performance and it's been running for 20 years."
The issue with Stage 42 is not location; it is union contracts. It is impossible to break even in that space which is why the only tenants it has ever had are inexperienced producers who have no idea what they are doing.
Humans will likely recoup but if you do the likely math they would not be there yet.
RippedMan
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/14/05
#29Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 8/21/16
Posted: 8/22/16 at 10:22pm
Because the venue is so large it requires a lot of union contracts? I believe the cast of Trip of Love was making, at minimum $800/wk which isn't exactly stellar money, but on the flip side, Tick Tick Boom is paying their cast in the $300/range.
dance noone watchin
Swing Joined: 5/23/16
#30Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 8/21/16
Posted: 8/22/16 at 10:34pm
Well, I am a major fan of The Color Purple. Looks like the theater has been consistently close to or over 90% the past couple of months, except last week, with significantly lower % of potential gross which I take it means a good number of discounted tickets.
One thing I have been puzzled by, as I think TCP would benefit from a push on the theatergoer sites. When I go to broadway.com, there are a number of shows which have show-specific squares on the main page. This is the first thing you see. How does a show get a square - are these purchased? Also, there is a list of Popular Shows – 21 shows, some of which are not in the top 21 based on box office. What determines which shows are listed? To find The Color Purple, I have to dig a bit more - click on Browse all shows, then scroll through until I get to it.
Curious to know on the weekly Broadway grosses report, what determines which shows appear in the first vs the second section?
BroadwayConcierge
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/24/15
#31Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 8/21/16
Posted: 8/22/16 at 10:38pm
dance noone watchin said: "Curious to know on the weekly Broadway grosses report, what determines which shows appear in the first vs the second section?"
It's alphabetical by show title. There are no "sections," the second black header is just a reminder of each column designation so you can look at the lower alphabetized shows and know what you're actually looking at rather than having to scroll up and down.
dance noone watchin
Swing Joined: 5/23/16
#32Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 8/21/16
Posted: 8/22/16 at 11:05pm
Broadway Concierge - Oh, got it. Thanks!
#33Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 8/21/16
Posted: 8/23/16 at 12:20am
Things are rough right now and they aren't going to get better as people are focused on the election, but once Trump is elected, people will be looking for an escape and ticket sales will boom again.
Oak2
Leading Actor Joined: 8/11/16
#34Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 8/21/16
Posted: 8/23/16 at 12:27am
Daddy Warbucks - Unless Donald Trump determines that Broadway is too liberal and has it all shut down by force as he declares himself Emperor.
#35Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 8/21/16
Posted: 8/23/16 at 12:29am
RippedMan said: "Because the venue is so large it requires a lot of union contracts? I believe the cast of Trip of Love was making, at minimum $800/wk which isn't exactly stellar money, but on the flip side, Tick Tick Boom is paying their cast in the $300/range. "
It's not the actors pay (your numbers on that are wrong but mox nix), it's the stagehand contract that the Shuberts foolishly entered into that makes the venue into the land of false hopes.
Jarethan
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/10/11
#36Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 8/21/16
Posted: 8/23/16 at 2:06am
HogansHero said: "Jarethan said: "I wonder if the producers of The Humans are questioning their move. Close to Sold Out in a small house may be better than (already) only 3/4 at a larger theatre. I am guessing that some of those early-in-the-week performances are already only half filled."
Humans is doing fine and will cover the relatively modest move cost that was lubricated by the landlord. The move was not volitional. The alternative was closing.
I am not saying that it is not doing okay. Just that it has gone from virtually selling out to having lots of empty seats...average capacity of 75% tells me that some of the performances are probably half-filled.
Torch Song Trilogy and Gemini are two of the longest running plays in the past 50 years and both benefitted IMO from playing at the Little / Helen Hayes Theatre, which had a smaller capacity and allowed them to sellout many performances for a long time. I suspect that The Humans would have ultimately run longer had it strayed where it was, but there is no way of proving it.
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neonlightsxo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/29/08
#37Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 8/21/16
Posted: 8/23/16 at 9:10am
This thread turned into complete nonsense very quickly.
#38Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 8/21/16
Posted: 8/23/16 at 10:01am
Too many words for you, neon? :P
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SomethingPeculiar
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/15/14
#39Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 8/21/16
Posted: 8/23/16 at 10:27am
It usually costs about 1/2 to 3/4 of a million+ to move a production, right? So The Humans might not be as close to recouping as we think it is. Hope it finds its audience though.
RippedMan
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/14/05
#40Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 8/21/16
Posted: 8/23/16 at 11:34am
What numbers am I wrong on? I've seen the breakdown for both shows.
#41Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 8/21/16
Posted: 8/23/16 at 12:29pm
RippedMan said: "What numbers am I wrong on? I've seen the breakdown for both shows. "
Trip is in a 499 theatre so weekly minimum should be over 1000 unless they got approval to make it smaller. and TTB has shifted to a larger theatre since the breakdown with attendant change in the tier. But as I said it doesn't matter.
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