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Posted by ljay889 2012-04-17 23:33:48


Not a surprise. WAR HORSE is looking to move.
I'm very excited for a large lavish KING AND I.

http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/theater/horse_declares_war_fB4vC7S3iZmmaStUBKO3NK



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Posted by PalJoey 2012-04-17 23:46:33


I'm excited for Kelli O'Hara's "Hello, Young Lovers"

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Posted by Kad 2012-04-17 23:48:59


Where would War Horse move to?

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Posted by ljay889 2012-04-17 23:50:45


They are looking at the Winter Garden, Richard Rodgers and St. James.

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Posted by PlayItAgain 2012-04-17 23:51:25


is nice work a limited run?

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Posted by AEA AGMA SM 2012-04-17 23:59:15


I thought of the Imperial as well, though at this time Nice Work is not being billed as a limited run.

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Posted by bjh2114 2012-04-17 23:59:17


Yay! Hopefully she can finally win a Tony with this one.

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Posted by CockeyedOptimist2 2012-04-17 23:59:52


I don't think Nice Work is a limited run. I read in an article that Matthew Broderick has a year-long contract, and I would imagine that Kelli's contract is the same, especially considering that they're allowing her a few weeks off this summer to do Far From Heaven at Williamstown.

Kelli O'Hara in The King and I at the Beaumont would be the best thing since Kelli O'Hara in South Pacific at the Beaumont. I hope it's true!

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Posted by Rentfan931 2012-04-18 00:00:33


I think Nice Work is an open run. Was there a rumor that Matilda may take the Winter Garden?

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Posted by RippedMan 2012-04-18 00:01:11


I doubt "King and I" would open this year. It says "War Horse" is looking to move this fall, so probably in the dead months of Sept/Oct. I guess O'Hara is trying to get out of "Nice Work." She's already gone for a month or so in July, and now she wants to leave before the end of the year for this?

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Posted by givesmevoice 2012-04-18 00:08:50


I was really hoping for someone other than Kelli O'Hara. I find her so bland, beautiful voice aside.

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Posted by AEA AGMA SM 2012-04-18 00:16:42


"Was there a rumor that Matilda may take the Winter Garden?"

The rumor I saw on this board a while back was that there would be a big shift, with Chicago moving to the Booth, Mamma Mia taking over the Ambassador and Matilda taking the Winter Garden. I don't recall if that rumor was ever substantiated in any way, but if Riedel's column is to be believed it sounds like Mamma Mia plans on staying put.

ETA - After all, if the producers aren't willing to move for the National I doubt that the RSC really got much further in any theoretical discussions. I would personally put my money on Matilda taking the Broadway once Sister Act closes up shop (and that is purely my speculation, not to be taken as any sort of fact or "insider" knowledge)

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Posted by ACL2006 2012-04-18 00:25:55


Matilda to the Winter Garden, Mamma Mia to the Ambassador, Chicago to the Booth. War Horse to the Imperial if Nice Work tanks. War Horse needs lots of wing space and I doubt it would move to a larger theater like the St. James since it's no longer selling out the Beaumont.

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Posted by bwayphreak234 2012-04-18 00:31:24


My dream revival is a Lincoln Center production of The King and I. So thrilled to see this actually happening.

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Posted by JohnyBroadway 2012-04-18 00:33:31


Lea Salonga as Lady Thiang please

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Posted by bwayphreak234 2012-04-18 00:37:00


It will be interesting to see how this all plays out... Sounds like there will be a lot of shows looking for homes and a lot of switching going on.

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Posted by Jonwo 2012-04-18 00:39:15


The Broadway would be far too big for Matilda, it needs a midsized theatre, I would thought the Shubert would be more likely than the Winter Garden given Mamma Mia! still does well although I do think it will move theatres within a few years.

Could the Lincoln Center host King and I in a theatre other than the Beaumount if War Horse doesn't budge?

I wonder how War Horse would adapt to a procesium stage, I imagine the upcoming tour will answer that question.

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Posted by CurtainPullDowner 2012-04-18 00:41:33


O'Hara would not be my first choice but I said that about SOUTH PACIFIC and I fell madly in love with her in it.
Casting the KING is very important.
MAMA MIA in the Ambassador? Never fit.

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Posted by somethingwicked 2012-04-18 00:52:08


Jonwo, the Dodgers are the commercial producing partners with the RSC on MATILDA, and their shows seem to wind up in Nederlander houses more often than not.

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Posted by Jonwo 2012-04-18 00:54:32


I imagine War Horse will finish at the Beaumont in September/October and LCT will have a show in between before The King and I opens in 2013.

somethingwicked, I think if Matilda goes into a Nederlander theatre then the Lunt Fontanne or Richard Rodgers would be likely options although I think it depends on which show closes first between Porgy and Bess and Ghost.

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Posted by RippedMan 2012-04-18 00:57:34


I'm glad Lincoln Center is just going to let War Horse play there indefinitely.

I'm surprised Memphis has lasted this long, but maybe it could make way for Matilda.

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Posted by Tag 2012-04-18 00:59:19


The Toronto production of War Horse plays on a proscenium stage and according to reviews, is just as well received as other productions.

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Posted by bwayphreak234 2012-04-18 01:08:54


Richard Rogers or the Shubert would be perfect for Matilda.

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Posted by MusicalMo 2012-04-18 01:14:38


Matilda will go into one of the Nederlander Theatres

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Posted by Jonwo 2012-04-18 01:15:56


The Cambridge Theatre where Matilda plays in London is only 1200 seats and has a small stage but I imagine they'll want a slightly bigger theatre for the Broadway transfer plus neither The Nederlander or the August Wilson are going to free any time soon.

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Posted by TheatreKid3 2012-04-18 01:18:20


If what is speculated actually does happen, then this will be one of the biggest simultaneous moves of productions ever, if not the biggest.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Disney tries to eventually move Newsies to a larger Nederlander house, especially after the Tony Awards (providing the show racks up and becomes a bigger hit than it already is). Even though I think the Nederlander is a perfect spot for it, I could see them reclaiming the Lunt-Fontanne or even putting it in the Rodgers to increase the amount of ticket sales per performance.

Whatever happens, it will be interesting.





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Posted by FindingNamo 2012-04-18 01:31:25


As long as that horse doesn't kick Kelli in the head on his way outta the Beaumont, everything should be fine.

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Posted by Jonwo 2012-04-18 01:33:01


Much as it would be tempting for Disney to move Newsies to be a bigger theatre, there is a risk that it would lose momentum moving to a bigger theatre like the Rodgers or the Lunt, it fits the Nederlander like a glove and the show could easily run for years by staying put and selling out the Nederlander, it's the same reason why Jersey Boys and Book of Mormon have not moved to bigger theatres despite being huge hits.

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Posted by TheatreKid3 2012-04-18 01:36:37


^ Exactly. I think Newsies is in a perfect location. Couldn't have worked out better for Disney. Even if the show becomes a bigger hit after the Tony's, leaving it in the Nederlander will increase demand for tickets (and also allow them to raise the price per ticket as a result). They are looking at large financial success either way.

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Posted by SondheimFan5 2012-04-18 01:38:41


DIdn't I read somewhere that Matilda must be in a theatre with a center aisle and that's why it took the Cambridge in London? Does the Winter Garden have a center aisle?

A Beaumont King & I would be stunning.

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Posted by bwayphreak234 2012-04-18 01:40:37


Disney would be dumb to movie Newises to a bigger house. I remember this past summer people were saying The Book of Mormon should have moved to the Marquis since it was wide open. Thank GOD that did not happen. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

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Posted by TheatreKid3 2012-04-18 01:42:09


Well, truthfully, if it HAD to be done, they could modify any theatre to accommodate the show (providing they wish to shell out the money to do so and it is approved). But that is an interesting observation. The largest Broadway theatre that has a center isle, if I'm correct, would be the Palace.

Maybe Annie will end up somewhere else and Matilda will take the Palace?

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Posted by Jonwo 2012-04-18 01:45:39


'Exactly. I think Newsies is in a perfect location. Couldn't have worked out better for Disney. Even if the show becomes a bigger hit after the Tony's, leaving it in the Nederlander will increase demand for tickets (and also allow them to raise the price per ticket as a result). They are looking at large financial success either way.'

Given that Newsies is likely to be a lot cheaper to run compared to Mary Poppins or The Lion King, I imagine it'll recoup by August if not slightly later.

I imagine the RSC and Dodgers will pay to reconfigure a theatre so it has a centre aisle rather than opt for the Palace which would be far too big.

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Posted by TheatreKid3 2012-04-18 01:45:48


Yup. The same financial success would occur either way, however.

If the show becomes a bigger hit:
At the Nederlander - demand would rise, driving ticket prices higher.
At a large house - tickets stay regular price, but more are sold per performance.

It's a win/win, assuming the show achieves Lion King's and Mary Poppins' level of popularity, which I believe it will.

This thread has seemed to have turned into "Which theatre will this show go to" thread, haha. It's all very interesting.

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Posted by Mildred Plotka 2012-04-18 01:46:06


Brilliant, Namo!

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Posted by SondheimFan5 2012-04-18 01:46:28


Also - is this just me - or does a move mean Lincoln Center would stop being the producer/presenter of War Horse and it would be just National Theatre as producer if it did the move?

"The National is also trying to raise its profile in New York, and would like to get its flagship show out from under the Lincoln Center Umbrella."

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Posted by Jonwo 2012-04-18 01:51:00


I imagine the Lincoln Centre would want to remain producer as they'll get a small cut for presenting it on Broadway even though they did not originate the show.

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Posted by ray-andallthatjazz86 2012-04-18 01:58:41


I was hoping for Laura Benanti, I wonder what the rest of the cast will look like, it's bound to be a great production I'm sure.

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Posted by bwayphreak234 2012-04-18 02:12:36


Benanti was my first choice too!

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Posted by HeyMrMusic 2012-04-18 02:12:53


Ray, with the exception of Louis and the European man track, I hope the rest of the cast will look Asian.

Speaking of, someone point me in the direction of these auditions!

The King and I, Lincoln Center, Vivian Beaumont, Kelli O'Hara... this will be EPIC.

And while I love Lea, she's not a Lady Thiang. Just not in her vocal range, at least not in the sweet spot.

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Posted by ClapYo'Hands 2012-04-18 02:24:34


Jonathan Pryce can always get his Saigon make-up out again to become The King!

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Posted by CATSNYrevival 2012-04-18 02:28:19


Jose Llana for the king, please.

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Posted by HeyMrMusic 2012-04-18 02:36:48


BD Wong?

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Posted by fashionguru_23 2012-04-18 02:39:31


I totally agree with Riedel (scary, I know) when he says: "But the National is concerned that the highbrow audience has been exhausted. For “War Horse” to run another five years, it’s going to have to bring in the hordes of tourists coursing through Times Square".

If you're around the Toronto area, a production is in place, and the show is going on tour soon. I think that the producers should like War Horse run for a little while more, and then just close instead of moving it.

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Posted by Mildred Plotka 2012-04-18 03:30:35


I love BD Wong but he is all wrong for The King. And after his dreadful performances in Charlie Brown and Pacific Overtures, he shouldn't be allowed anywhere near another Broadway musical.

That being said...

Chris Colfer for Tuptim, please!

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Posted by AnythingGoes2 2012-04-18 04:21:19


Matilda would fit very well in The Nederlander. Isn't Newsies supposedly a limited season? If not the Schubert would work too. Broadway theatre is way too big!! Isn't nutty professor after that?

Mamma won't budge I don't think for at least another 2 or 3 years. Richard Rogers would work well for War Horse.

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Posted by AnythingGoes2 2012-04-18 04:21:27


Matilda would fit very well in The Nederlander. Isn't Newsies supposedly a limited season? If not the Schubert would work too. Broadway theatre is way too big!! Isn't nutty professor after that?

Mamma won't budge I don't think for at least another 2 or 3 years. Richard Rogers would work well for War Horse.

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Posted by CarlosAlberto 2012-04-18 04:42:45


Jose Llana would make a great King. Any thoughts on Paolo Montalban?

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Posted by PalJoey 2012-04-18 07:10:51


I imagine the Lincoln Centre would want to remain producer as they'll get a small cut for presenting it on Broadway even though they did not originate the show.

I imagine Lincoln Center (no "the" used in the USA and "center" is spelled "-er" not "-re") would continue to be the producers here and get a very large not a small cut.

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Posted by Ed_Mottershead 2012-04-18 09:40:31


I knows he's tied to Zorba, but wouldn't Antonio Banderas be great for the king? Right age, can sing and dance, and presence to die for. Know it won't happen but I can dream, can't I?

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Posted by DottieD'Luscia 2012-04-18 10:23:47


^That's a wonderful suggestion.

Granted there are plenty of talent actresses who could do Anna justice and everyone mentioned so far had my vote, but casting the King will be very interesting.

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Posted by RippedMan 2012-04-18 10:50:23


The fact that the Warhorse movie did nothing to help the play means that the audience for this show is sort of dwindling. And each season brings more interesting fare. I don't see it doing so well.

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Posted by eatlasagna 2012-04-18 11:26:21


you think Loretta Ables Sayre could pull off Lady Thiang?

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Posted by iluvtheatertrash 2012-04-18 11:54:57


I find her bland, too, though I loved seeing her let loose in NICE WORK.

I was praying this would go to Kate Baldwin.

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Posted by givesmevoice 2012-04-18 11:58:21


I was definitely hoping for Kate Baldwin, too. But I can't say I'm surprised that a Bartlett Sher directed revival of a Rodgers and Hammerstein show at the Beaumont would star Kelli O'Hara.

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Posted by LizzieCurry 2012-04-18 11:58:37


I knows he's tied to Zorba, but wouldn't Antonio Banderas be great for the king? Right age, can sing and dance, and presence to die for. Know it won't happen but I can dream, can't I?

RIGHT. BECAUSE SPAIN IS SO CLOSE TO THAILAND.
What is wrong with some of you people?!

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Posted by ray-andallthatjazz86 2012-04-18 12:03:17


I know, Lizzie, it's kind of unbelievable.

Ray, with the exception of Louis and the European man track, I hope the rest of the cast will look Asian

Ha, Mr.Music! Let's hope so

I was actually thinking that even though I'm not sure Loretta Ables Sayre is the right fit for the role, I do trust that Sher could find an undiscovered gem like her to play Lady Thiang.

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Posted by iluvtheatertrash 2012-04-18 12:05:04


I love this show. Can't wait for it, but here's hoping it's not B.D. Wong.

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Posted by henrikegerman 2012-04-18 12:35:53


Love Kelli and think she'll be great. But I was hoping for more audacious casting. Either a great actress right for the role like Rachel Weisz or Kate Winslet, or something to make a strong musical theater actress more of a star, like Kate Baldwin.

The reclusive but very talented John Lone might make a great King. He's 60, but I would guess looks much younger. He always has. He was 36 when he aged from teenager to octogenarian in The Last Emperor.

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Posted by CurtainPullDowner 2012-04-18 12:57:48


I'd like to see Tim Kang from THE MENTALIST as KING.

This will probably be a year from now, right?

I liked the idea of Lea Salonga as Thiang, she's usually cast older, which makes no sense to me. If she's younger and attractive Anna and Thiang's stakes are higher.
Whoever said Banderas: Put the crack pipe down!

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Posted by Mildred Plotka 2012-04-18 13:31:03


So they don't need to be Asian? Just look Asian? Wha?

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Posted by hushpuppy 2012-04-18 13:34:37


Paolo Montalban played the King in a Hawaiian production of THE KING AND I in 2011. I thought Francis Jue was an excellent king in a San Jose production a few years ago.

I'd love to see the extremely talented and handsome Jason Tam as Lun Tha. I Have Dreamed indeed.

They may have trouble finding enough Asian American actors. Salonga, Llana, Montalban, Telly Leung, Jason Tam, and Paul Nakauchi are all committed to ALLEGIANCE at the Old Globe this fall, and, according to their website, are committed to a Broadway production as well.

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Posted by SondheimFan5 2012-04-18 21:43:27


George Takei as the King?

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Posted by Ed_Mottershead 2012-04-18 22:01:17


Lizzie, did you ever hear of Farley Granger or Alfred Drake? They were far from being Asian but did fine as the king. Did you know that Noel Coward was the first choice for the king but wouldn't do it because he wasn't willing to be tied to a contract that lasted more than six months? Both R and H were alive at the time and had the last word on the matter and didn't seem to mind.

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Posted by broadwaydevil 2012-04-18 22:20:55


I doubt Lincoln Center would want to close War Horse. No, it isn't pulling in numbers like it was last year but the house is almost always 90+% full and average ticket prices are over $100. It has to be making a good amount of money still. A move is possible but I'd be shocked if it just closed.

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Posted by rjm516 2012-04-18 22:29:11


"As long as that horse doesn't kick Kelli in the head on his way outta the Beaumont, everything should be fine."

Oh my goodness, I died!

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Posted by Jonwo 2012-04-18 22:32:18


Lincoln Centre have produced shows outside of the Beaumount like Other Desert Cities, Joe Turner's Come and Gone and Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown so it's possible that they'll help the National look for a new theatre for War Horse and regain the Vivian Beaumount for The King and I. Was the show meant for an open run or did it just extend due to demand like Light in the Piazza and South Pacific?

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Posted by henrikegerman 2012-04-18 23:05:44


"Lizzie, did you ever hear of Farley Granger or Alfred Drake? They were far from being Asian but did fine as the king. Did you know that Noel Coward was the first choice for the king but wouldn't do it because he wasn't willing to be tied to a contract that lasted more than six months? Both R and H were alive at the time and had the last word on the matter and didn't seem to mind."

i think the idea is that it would be far preferable for one of the only great roles in the musical theater for an Asian male would be played by an Asian male.

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Posted by hushpuppy 2012-04-19 11:54:04


"George Takei as the King?"

Takei is also committed to ALLEGIANCE

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Posted by hushpuppy 2012-04-19 11:58:52


"George Takei as the King?"

Takei is also committed to ALLEGIANCE

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Posted by beautywickedlover 2012-04-19 12:03:22


I think O'Hara will be wonderful in this role.

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Posted by LizzieCurry 2012-04-19 12:28:39


Lizzie, did you ever hear of Farley Granger or Alfred Drake? They were far from being Asian but did fine as the king. Did you know that Noel Coward was the first choice for the king but wouldn't do it because he wasn't willing to be tied to a contract that lasted more than six months? Both R and H were alive at the time and had the last word on the matter and didn't seem to mind.


I honestly hope you're 90 years old and still use the word "colored" in everyday conversation because that's the only way you would even REMOTELY be able to get away with this crap.

Did you know that it's 2012 and it would be irresponsible, unconscionable, and not to mention really, really racist to cast a white dude as the King? Especially when there's been a major discussion at Fordham, hosted by the Asian American Performers Action Coalition, over the lack of roles for Asian American actors?

Really? Are we having this discussion? Now? I mean, FFS, I'm beyond disappointed that I even have to address any of your antiquated arguments.





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Posted by ghostlight2 2012-04-19 12:36:36


But for the white dude issue and the fact that he's already employed, I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Cerveris, if only for his resemblance to Brenner.

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Posted by ljay889 2012-04-19 12:45:16


Cerveris was mentioned in another thread. I highly doubt they would cast a white King in 2012. Come on now....

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Posted by Lavieboheme3090 2012-04-19 12:57:12


Even though the aforementioned actors are "tied up" with Allegiance, I am very excited about this production. Because this is a Lincoln Center revival this could be an amazing opportunity to see a lot of new names and faces on Broadway.

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Posted by Ed_Mottershead 2012-04-19 12:57:33


Lizzie, first of all, I'm not over 90 years old although I do read books (ever heard of them?); secondly, don't get ur panties in a swivet because I stated that there was a precedent for non-Asians playing the king. It's the same hullabaloo (another archaic expression that someone of your tender years wouldn't understand) that faced Jonathan Pryce when he did the Engineer (by the way, junior, he won the Tony that year). As long as he has the charisma and talent to play the king, I have no problem with the ethnic background of whoever plays the role. Now, calm down and have a nice ice cream soda with all the other knowledgable kids on your block, if there are any.

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Posted by LizzieCurry 2012-04-19 12:59:49


There's a precedent for a lot of dumb things, but that doesn't mean anyone needs to repeat them.

Love,
LizzieCurry, reader of books / copy editor of one / formerly a newspaper designer

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Posted by ghostlight2 2012-04-19 13:04:20


"Cerveris was mentioned in another thread. I highly doubt they would cast a white King in 2012. Come on now...."

Come on now what? I wasn't suggesting Cerveris, ljay, but merely expressing surprise that his name had not come up at all, give he's so ubiquitous. I hadn't seen the mention in the other thread. I don't spend all that much time here.

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Posted by Kad 2012-04-19 13:08:07


...yes, Pryce managed to play the Engineer without any cultural fallout of any kind!

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Posted by Reginald Tresilian 2012-04-19 13:15:08


If I'm not mistaken, Noel Coward was asked to write the score, not play the king.

I seem to recall hearing that Rex Harrison, who'd played him in the non-musical film, was first approached.

But I may be wrong.

EDIT: I meant Rex Harrison had played the king of Siam, not that he'd played Noel Coward. Though the latter makes more sense.













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Posted by newintown 2012-04-19 13:17:37


I'm greatly looking forward to Kelli O'Hara in Flower Drum Song at the Beaumont in 2015.

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Posted by Ed_Mottershead 2012-04-19 13:24:13


Your absolutely right about Rex Harrsion (I forgot that one), Reginald, but somewhere it sticks in the craw of my mind that Coward was also asked to play the king and turned it down because he didn't want to play it more than six months. I'm pretty sure that Gertrude Lawrence originally approached R&H about writing the musical, though.

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Posted by somethingwicked 2012-04-19 13:28:53


I, for one, would much rather see one of Sher's other favorite leading ladies, Lauren Ambrose, take on Anna.

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Posted by Reginald Tresilian 2012-04-19 13:34:04


Ed, for what it's worth, Wikipedia seems to say we're both sort of right.

It claims Cole Porter was approached first and declined. Coward was next on the list, but Lawrence's manager ran into Hammerstein's wife and suggested the project.

As for casting, "The obvious choice was Rex Harrison, who had played the King in the movie, but he was booked, as was Noel Coward. Alfred Drake, the original Curly in Oklahoma!, made contractual demands which were too high."







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Posted by Kad 2012-04-19 13:40:24


Kelli O'Hara would be a perfect Anna. And hopefully it would finally net her a Tony.

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Posted by jimmycurry01 2012-04-19 13:43:28


Ed_Mottershead you are talking about a time when people still dressed in black face and Katherine Hepburn could wear prosthetics play an Asian and Charlie Chan was not yet seen as the racial stereotype that he was. Your casting suggestion is wrong, and your examples to defend it are painfully outdated. Let's not forget what we learned from Cameron when he cast Jonathan Pryce in Miss Saigon. If you don't remember that mess, I am sure you can read about it in a book.

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Posted by Ed_Mottershead 2012-04-19 13:56:34


Jimmy Curry, hmmmm. Hope u don't have the misfortune to be married to that bitch.

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Posted by henrikegerman 2012-04-19 14:03:51


Interesting to think of Harrison in King and I, and also interesting to think of Irene Dunne, who played Anna opposite Harrison in the movie as doing the musical with him. Dunne was a very accomplished singer. (and please don't assume from this comment that I am advocating a non-East Asian as the King).

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Posted by sara 2012-04-19 14:24:21


Perhaps Kelli should not play Anna,seeing as she is not an English woman

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Posted by Kad 2012-04-19 14:31:32


That is vastly different than having a white actor portray an Asian man and you know it.

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Posted by LizzieCurry 2012-04-19 14:39:12


Ed, perhaps you are too young to remember 110 in the Shade.

BTW I <3 you Kad.

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Posted by jimmycurry01 2012-04-19 15:01:00


Sara, that is a ridiculous comparison, and you should be ashamed for making it. Race is a very important issue in The King and I. The British see the Siamese as being barbarians, and beneath them in intelligence and morality until after the dinner party. When racial tension is a central issue, you cannot use "color blind casting" to populate the show with actors that do not make sense with the issue at hand.
Oh, and for the record, technically Anna was born to an English father and a half English-half Indian mother in India. She really wasn't all that English.

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Posted by Mister Matt 2012-04-19 15:26:51


RIGHT. BECAUSE SPAIN IS SO CLOSE TO THAILAND.
What is wrong with some of you people?!


Yul Brynner was Russian
Lou Diamond Phillips is Spanish, Scottish/Irish, Chinese, Filipino, Hawaiian and Cherokee

But Antonio Banderas is unacceptable for not being Thai? I get what you're saying, but it's rare that foreign ethnic casting ever truly matches nationality. I think Banderas is a ridiculous choice, but not because he's Spanish. Mostly because he's always the go-to for the hunky hot foreign lead and he's not right for everything.

I'd like to see Tim Kang from THE MENTALIST as KING.

Excellent idea! Love that guy. Though it's the longest of long shots, I would love to see Mel Maghuyop from the recent Walnut Street production with Rachel York because he's a friend and he's fantastic, so I'll just put it out there.

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Posted by LizzieCurry 2012-04-19 15:37:46


Yul Brynner was half-Mongolian, wasn't he? But regardless, that was a bygone era.

I don't think this type of casting has to be 100% ethnically accurate down to the country (were there any half-white/half-Vietnamese Tams)? But I know you know what I'm talking about.

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Posted by bwayfan7000 2012-04-19 15:42:01


I would say the King is one of the toughest roles to cast, if one is looking to find an actor who is both right for the role and culturally appropriate. I'm having a hard time thinking of any actors these days who are right for it and the correct ethnicity, even with all the suggestions on here. I'm going to be very curious to see how they cast that role.

Otherwise, I think Kelli will be perfect, and I can't wait to see this production on the Beaumount stage. I can only imagine how thrilling some of the sequences have the potential to be.

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Posted by newintown 2012-04-19 15:48:18


Western people funny.

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Posted by ray-andallthatjazz86 2012-04-19 15:57:01


As long as he has the charisma and talent to play the king, I have no problem with the ethnic background of whoever plays the role

Unfortunately, I imagine that a lot of Asian actors who would be passed over the role for a white actor (you know, for like the 1000000th time) would probably have a problem with it. I love how it's completely okay to cast a white actor as the King of Siam, but people would flip the Fuck out if there was an ethnic Anna because it'd be "inaccurate" (which I'd agree with, given the Uncle Tom's Cabin sequence, but the double standard is just absurd).

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Posted by newintown 2012-04-19 16:02:49


God help us all if anyone ever shows that racist video of Olivier as Othello ever again... That stuff makes Birth of a Nation look like the Selma to Montgomery march.

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Posted by newintown 2012-04-19 16:05:03


I'd like to see James Yaegashi as the King, although he's of Japanese descent, which isn't really that close to Thai... I think he's just great.

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Posted by sara 2012-04-19 16:17:50


Lincoln Center cast Audra McDonald as Carrie in their great production of Carousel,I didn't hear any comlaints that she was the wrong race.

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Posted by Kad 2012-04-19 16:38:43


Where in Carousel is Carrie referred to by race? Her race is not a factor in the musical at all.

Stop coming up with false equivilances.

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Posted by sara 2012-04-19 17:44:42


The setting for Carousel was Maine in the late 1800s,just a few short years after the civil war.Do you think Julie,s best friend would have been Black in that era? Times have changed my friend.And probably no character's race was mentioned by R&H as the original story was about a group of white people.

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Posted by henrikegerman 2012-04-19 17:48:34


"I would say the King is one of the toughest roles to cast, if one is looking to find an actor who is both right for the role and culturally appropriate. I'm having a hard time thinking of any actors these days who are right for it and the correct ethnicity, even with all the suggestions on here. I'm going to be very curious to see how they cast that role."

bwayfan, perhaps you don't realize that over 1/3 the world's population is East or Southeast Asian.
The fact that you have trouble thinking of anyone for the role who is East or Southeast Asian doesn't mean there aren't a great many talented actors of that ethnicity who would be right for the role. The fact that many of us can think of only a few people for the role who are East or Southeast Asian, only goes to prove the limited exposure we have to East and Southeastern Asian actors. Which is precisely one of the reasons why it is important for East and Southeast Asian actors to get more work. Including but in no sense limited to roles which are East or Southeast Asian in works in which race and ethnicity are thematic, and certainly including a role as high profile as the King of Siam.

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Posted by bjh2114 2012-04-19 18:33:00


sara, personally I think you're a moron. Stop trying to make arguments out of nothing. The time period is irrelevant in Carousel. Whether or not they would have been best friends doesn't matter. Color blind casting can occur in productions where race isn't a central issue. Because race doesn't come into play in Carousel, it makes no difference whether Carrie is white, black, chartreuse, coral, or navy. Race is a very central issue in The King and I, so color blind casting isn't an option.

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Posted by jimmycurry01 2012-04-19 18:34:50


Sara, racial issues are not a central issue in Carousel, they are in The King and I, as I have already stated.

As for Yul Brynner, he was cast in the role when things were quite different. At that time the entertainment industry was still focused on the buck toothed racial stereotype of Asians. When a project called for an Asian character to be strong or important the role went to a non-asian actor. The King and I is a fine example of such an occurrence for both Brynner and Moreno, as is Katharine Hepburn's performance as Jade in Dragon Seed, Boris Karloff, Bela Lugosi, Shirley MacLaine, Rex Harrison, Marlon Brando, the list goes on. They were all made up to look like Asians and took strong Asian roles because of the racism in Hollywood. It was no different than actors wearing black face, and you seriously don't see anything wrong with that? Seriously?

When a role calls for a specific race, I think it is high time that the role be cast as such, and people should be ashamed to argue otherwise. This is not the 1950s anymore, and a lot of the mentality of the that time needs to die.

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Posted by LizzieCurry 2012-04-19 18:38:22


The fact that many of us can think of only a few people for the role who are East or Southeast Asian, only goes to prove the limited exposure we have to East and Southeaster Asian actors. Which is precisely one of the reasons why it is important for East and Southeast Asian actors to get more work. Including but in no sense limited to roles which are East or Southeast Asian in works in which race and ethnicity are thematic, and certainly including a role as high profile as the King of Siam.

and

They were all made up to look like Asians and took strong Asian roles because of the racism in Hollywood. It was no different than actors wearing black face, and you seriously don't see anything wrong with that? Seriously?


READ THOSE. EVERYONE.

Also, you know what? I think, since this is a Broadway production and all, they may do this thing called auditions wherein actors of Asian descent may show up. And some of them may be off your radar.

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Posted by henrikegerman 2012-04-19 18:50:17


Ah, the old days
JimmyCurry's list would not be complete without Dame Flora Robson who played just about every race in the movies. From Queen Elizabeth to the Dowager Empress of China to her oscar nominated turn as Ingrid Bergman's Haitian maid Angelique in Saratoga Trunk.

And let's not forget that Brynner was born Taidje Kahn, a Russian/Swiss/Tatar-Mongolian/Jew in Siberia.... or so he claimed.

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Posted by SondheimFan5 2012-04-19 19:04:45


Yes, Gertie Lawrence wanted to do the show. And R&H tailered the score to her limited vocal range.

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Posted by Ed_Mottershead 2012-04-19 21:28:23


I remember when in was playing -- I just didn't have any particular desire to see it.

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Posted by inlovewithjerryherman 2012-04-19 22:36:02


I would simply adore it if a complete and total unknown (unknown, at least, to the theatrical/film/tv circle) nets the King.

As if Sher would cast anyone but Kelli O'Hara in this part...he saw her for "Funny Girl", something even SHE felt she was wrong for. Nonetheless, I honestly can't think of anyone more perfect. This is far superior casting to even her star-making turn in "South Pacific". I just pray that she does not become the female Raul Esparza - doomed to forever lose the TONY to a showier or better-reviewed role.

(on a completley unrelated note, I hope Brantley writes her a massive love letter for NICE WORK - the woman deserves her TONY.)

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Posted by ChenoKahn 2012-04-19 22:47:29


Kelli will win a Tony at some point because her losing is due to timing. People in the industry don't seem to like Raul.

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Posted by broadwaybabytn 2012-04-19 23:12:29


Honestly, for me, a black Stanley in STREETCAR is just as shocking as a white Mongkut in THE KING AND I. I know they made author approved edits to STREETCAR, I'm just trying to draw a parallel.

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Posted by bjh2114 2012-04-19 23:19:37


*headdesk*

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Posted by Kad 2012-04-19 23:23:59


It's not really a valid parallel, because Williams altered the story to suit that casting. The issue of race was changed. There is no version of The King and I where the King of Siam is instead the King of France.


It is 2012. There is no reason that Asian actors should continue to be marginalized on Broadway and it's patently ridiculous people think otherwise.

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Posted by EricMontreal22 2012-04-19 23:25:46


Speaking of non-Asians in the past who have played Asian, I admit, only a few years back did I discover Juanita Hall was black...

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Posted by broadwaybabytn 2012-04-19 23:28:59


I understand. I really don't have a valid parallel, but my point was that I would prefer for Thai characters in a racially themed piece to be played be actors and actresses who are at least of Asian descent, just as I would hope that white characters in a racially themed piece would be played be white actors and actresses.

Actually, here's an example. I would probably feel uncomfortable with an actress of Asian descent playing Anna, just as I feel uncomfortable with a white actor playing the King.

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Posted by bwayfan7000 2012-04-19 23:35:53


"The fact that you have trouble thinking of anyone for the role who is East or Southeast Asian doesn't mean there aren't a great many talented actors of that ethnicity who would be right for the role. The fact that many of us can think of only a few people for the role who are East or Southeast Asian, only goes to prove the limited exposure we have to East and Southeastern Asian actors."

I totally agree with you, Henrik. I think it's too bad that many of these talented actors aren't on the radar, and I hope that the role is cast with someone brilliant and perfect who we may not have heard of. But I can't help but suspect they'll first look to a "name" (at least as much of a "name" as Kelli O'Hara is), and the options are, as we've established, somewhat limited if they want someone of exactly the correct ethnicity. As I said, I'm very curious to see how casting of this role pans out.

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Posted by EricMontreal22 2012-04-19 23:40:29


I agree with Henrik's post completely as well. But I do get where some of the difficulty lies. I had a Japanese friend who actually now acts at Stratford, and she was so upset with the casting of the film of Memoirs of a Geisha--just the fact that they seemed to cast any Asian, and not typical Japanese who she insisted often looked different--going instead for bigger non Japanese stars in many cases. I mean in a way that's ridiculous (should we only cast Scandinavian actors for Norwegian characters), and I guess any progress is good, but she did make a few valid points... (though overall I admit, I didn't agree with her specificity).

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Posted by best12bars 2012-04-20 00:01:27


Watch them get someone like Jackie Chan.

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Posted by Kad 2012-04-20 00:03:53


Hey, he does his own stunts.

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Posted by vegas2 2012-04-20 01:54:59


Daniel Dae Kim played the King in London in 2009, at the Royal Albert Hall. I thought he did a great job.

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Posted by somethingwicked 2012-04-20 02:14:42


Much like Bart Sher conducted a global search to find the right Emile de Becque for his production of SOUTH PACIFIC, you can ensure the team involved will go to all lengths necessary to find an ethnically appropriate, significantly talented actor to play The King. It probably won't be someone you know, but it probably will be someone who's great (much like Paulo Szot.)

I know the idea's been mentioned before, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Sher used Loretta Ables Sayre for Lady Thiang.

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Posted by ljay889 2012-04-20 02:32:06


, you can ensure the team involved will go to all lengths necessary to find an ethnically appropriate, significantly talented actor to play The King. It probably won't be someone you know, but it probably will be someone who's great (much like Paulo Szot.)

Exactly.

I can see Sayre as Thiang. But does she have upper register for it? It's not that easy of a sing. And I REALLY hope they keep 'Western People Funny.' It annoys me that the last revival cut that song and the overture!

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Posted by dreaming 2012-04-20 08:03:02


Ables Sayre does not have the upper register for the role and the character is supposed to be the same age as Mrs. Anna. It's a reason their characters relate so well-they both have sons who are the same age and they themselves are the same age.

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Posted by henrikegerman 2012-04-20 08:43:38


Wow, Daniel Dae Kim- interesting!

"I agree with Henrik's post completely as well. But I do get where some of the difficulty lies. I had a Japanese friend who actually now acts at Stratford, and she was so upset with the casting of the film of Memoirs of a Geisha--just the fact that they seemed to cast any Asian, and not typical Japanese who she insisted often looked different--going instead for bigger non Japanese stars in many cases. I mean in a way that's ridiculous (should we only cast Scandinavian actors for Norwegian characters), and I guess any progress is good, but she did make a few valid points... (though overall I admit, I didn't agree with her specificity)."

I also remember that some people were upset about famous non Japanese Asian actresses (Michelle Yeoh, Gong Li, Zhang Yiyi) being cast in Geisha. And while I can understand why Japanese actors might have felt that way, especially given how few roles in American movies there are for Japanese actors, I agree that its quite different than casting a white actor as The King.

Also at times objections can be more of a cultural right-for-the role nature than a "racial" one. I once suggested to an Italian friend that I thought Roberto Benigni would be wonderful as Gennaro in di Filippo's Napoli Millionaria. He immediately called my attention to the fact that Benigni is a clearly recognizable Tuscan type, (and somewhat limited to that type, not known for "range"), very much not a Neapolitan, and that to an Italian it would seem very wrong - akin to casting Fran Drescher as Blanche Du Bois (how hyperbolic the parallel was, I, not being Italian or living in Italy, am not in a position to say). He also understood how that distinction would be completely lost on me. Perhaps to a Japanese viewer, these actresses were simply wrong for Geisha because they were not believable in the roles (whether they were or not, I'm certainly not in a position to say because my ability to distinguish Japanese women from these particular Chinese and Malaysian movie stars is, at best, minimal).

"But I can't help but suspect they'll first look to a "name" (at least as much of a "name" as Kelli O'Hara is), and the options are, as we've established, somewhat limited if they want someone of exactly the correct ethnicity. As I said, I'm very curious to see how casting of this role pans out."

How much of a name was Brynner when King and I opened on Broadway Certainly not much of a name compared to Lawrence. As is clear from him winning the best FEATURED performance by an actor in a musical tony that season. Preposterous as that seems.





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Posted by Mister Matt 2012-04-20 09:50:38


Though he may not be interested, I think Jet Li would be fascinating as the King.

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Posted by newintown 2012-04-20 10:01:58


You know, I always loved Anna Mae Wong - she was one of the few Asian actors who got to show glamor and strength and dignity back in the day. She's just gorgeous as Dietrich's sidekick in Shanghai Express.

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Posted by Reginald Tresilian 2012-04-20 10:06:24


Newintown, have you seen Anna May Wong in "Piccadilly," which was released on DVD a few years ago? She's wonderful.

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Posted by newintown 2012-04-20 10:10:02


No, I haven't even heard of that, Reg - I must get it now.

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Posted by bwayphreak234 2012-04-20 19:45:35


Can Derek McLane PLEASEEEE design the set for this? or Michael Yeargan. It seems like Yeargan usually designs Sher's shows...

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Posted by Younger Brother 2012-10-30 20:17:01


Has anyone heard any more about this?

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Posted by TalkinLoud 2012-10-31 09:30:32


Probably not until fall 2013 or spring 2014.