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Posted: 7/24/10 at 5:27pm
Obviously I am starting this thread as I have some vested interest in this happening for more shows.

Some shows already do this already such as Dirty Dancing, Grease, Mama Mia and Avenue Q did, but now have moved back to 5:30 and 8pm, Flashdance will do the 2 evening shows on a Friday opens and Priscilla was going to, but changed there minds.

Do you think theatre should adapt there times more to capture more of the audience. Do you think a early evening and a late evening shows are more appealing to theatre goers?
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Posted: 7/24/10 at 6:38pm
I can see the advantages of it but it wasn't any good for me last year (I was at college until 5:30 on a Friday). I did attend the Friday Matinee of Dirty Dancing at 3pm when I broke up for one of my terms and it was PACKED! I think more shows could do a matinee at 3pm on a Friday.

The problem with a 5pm start means if you want to do 2 shows, there is limited choice as most stuff begins at 7:30.

It really depends on the show though.
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Posted: 7/24/10 at 7:06pm
I think 5.30 is too early for people who work, attend college/school etc. and I think 8.30 is too late for people who are coming from out of town.

For example, I only just make my bus next month because Hair starts at 8.00pm.
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Posted: 7/25/10 at 4:09am
I agree with ClapYo'Hands,
I saw Avenue Q for the first time in February as I couldn't make it to town for 5.30 and the 8.00 shows finished too late, so i couldn't get back!
However, it was well worth the wait!
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Posted: 7/25/10 at 4:53am
I find 5.30pm a bit of a rush and not so good to schedule dining around. Plus, as Mark E says, it limits your chances of seeing another show afterwards.

How do performers feel about the quick turnaround/later finish? I suppose it gives them more time off during the day, but it seems quite an intense schedule when it's followed by another two-show day on a Saturday.
Seen some shows in my time....
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Posted: 7/25/10 at 9:05am
Double shows for performers are a pain as it is.....no more lol
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Posted: 7/25/10 at 10:23am
Viola - perfect for people who have to travel a distance, the 5pm Friday slot is perfect, naturally go to Starbucks first, see the show, a relaxed dinner with two glasses of red, then a leisurely stroll back to the coach/train station, now what could be more perfect?

Is that true SADM, double performances are a pain or are you kidding? I thought it wound be better that the traditional matinee and evening show, because you do not have that 3 hours of doing nothing in between.
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Posted: 7/25/10 at 10:25am
I can appreciate that someone such as yourself would find the later performance an advantage when you're trying to get there from work, etc. But from a personal viewpoint I am not a fan. 5.00. or 5.30. is too early for me - that's generally the time I like to eat. And 8.30 means a pretty late finish, which I'm not too keen on either. (I much prefer London's general 7.30. starts to New York's 8 pm starts, to be honest.)

As far as I can see the only shows doing the two Friday shows are Chicago, Dirty Dancing, Flashdance (when it opens) and Grease. If every show did it, I guess it would at least mean I could fit in two shows in the day when heading to London for a weekend which is always a good thing as I want to see as many shows in as short a time when I am able to get to London. But the two shows would be so close together, when the hell would I eat? LOL
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Posted: 7/25/10 at 10:50am
The shows that do Friday Matinees are shorter than other West End shows. Avenue Q for example is 2 hours 15 minutes including interval so the turnaround between shows must be tight especially as they let patrons in 45 minutes to an hour before showtime.

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Posted: 7/25/10 at 1:04pm
'Priscilla' changed its Friday performances at the very last minute just as the show was about to go into previews. Its long running time meant the show could simply not be reset in 35 min.

I've done a number of shows where we did a 5 show 2 day schedule (2 on Fri-3 on Sat)- on a few occasions 7 shows in 3 days (2 on Fri -3 on Sat -2 on Sunday!).
It doesn't matter how much you love the theatre and working in it (as I do), it is a real hard slog to be in that building from 10am until 11pm sometimes!

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Posted: 7/25/10 at 1:55pm
Too right it is! One of my tech rehearsals for my uni show lasted from 9am-10pm, and that was just Act 1! Seemed like an eternity.
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Posted: 7/25/10 at 3:35pm
I think there is an argument for more variety to performance times rather than too many shows having 2 shows on a Friday. I think it works well for shows like Avenue Q but could you imagine doing a show like Les Miserables twice in an evening?
I have noticed a few shows previously with a 7pm start on a Monday. I think more shows should play with times like this. As nice as it is to know that every show (pretty much) starts at 7:30PM it isn't too hard to find out the actual start times.
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Posted: 7/25/10 at 3:47pm
I see what Bob says, if you are going to do two shows in a day, you want to have some kind a breather between, but if you were going to see two shows, you would have to have a early dinner.

Great post there by Jonwo, I did not think the shows doing two on a Friday, run for a short time, probably be sensible to have a show at 4:30pm and 9pm then, to enable a turnaround, I could see this working for shows like Legally Blonde, Wicked and We Will Rock You etc, but not plays where you tend to get a more mature audience who enjoy there 2:30 matinee.

Doing 8 shows in a weekend is kind of mad, insane mama!!!!
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Posted: 7/25/10 at 4:41pm
Tourquise. The forthcoming production of 'Les Miserables' in Madrid will be doing 2 evening shows, 6.30pm and 10pm. That is the norm in Spain and a few other countries too.
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Posted: 7/25/10 at 4:54pm
Unless they have shortened Les Miserables then isn't there only 30 minutes between performances then? I also couldn't imagine coming out of the theatre at 1AM!
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Posted: 7/25/10 at 5:04pm
Its the norm here as the bars are still open and transport is open and you can still eat- Bob!
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Posted: 7/25/10 at 6:26pm
Sorry, Mama - NEVER eat that late at night. Need to eat between shows, stomach problems so have to eat at regular intervals, so if the time between is too tight, it won't work for me.
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Posted: 7/26/10 at 2:47am
I think even in La Liga (Spanish Football) kicks off very late, however a show stating at 10pm is a tad too late, think in London 9pm is as late as you can go, in the West End.

Thats the answer a show at 5pm and 9pm, time in between to eat as well.
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Posted: 7/26/10 at 10:56am
The night life culture in Spain is very different to the UK but keep in mind, shops do shut in the afternoon and reopen later in the evening so you could see Les Mis at 6pm then go for a meal afterwards.

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Posted: 7/26/10 at 2:05pm
I personally like this schedule. I do not live in London and have to stay overnight anyway, so when I come over for a weekend I get a flight early afternoon, be in central London by 2/3pm and am off to a 5pm/5.30pm show.
Over again next weekend when am first going to see Avenue Q at 5pm, then Tap Dogs at 9pm - perfect for me.
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Posted: 7/26/10 at 2:10pm
Late evening performances are nothing new in the West End.
I remember 8.30pm and 9pm shows in the West End back as early as the 1970s. I saw Carol Channing in 'Hello Dolly' at a n 8.30pm performance back then.
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Posted: 7/26/10 at 2:15pm
Didn't 'Naked Boys Singing' play at 10pm nightly? Though it didn't have a very long-running time, I can't think of a later time than that.
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Posted: 7/26/10 at 2:18pm
I think it was because it was a revue more than a full West End show. I t plays late most cities around the world.

In its heyday, the London Palladium's variety shows were twice nightly at times like 8.30, 8.40, 8.45, 8.50, 9 and as late as 9.10pm for the last performance.
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Posted: 7/26/10 at 2:57pm
Didn't the 2006 revival of Cabaret have a 10.00pm show?