Wildhorn's Cyrano: What Happened?

[philly03]

Posted: 7/12/08 at 11:14pm

Just curious if anyone knows whatever happened to Frank Wildhorn's Cyrano?

According to this:
https://www.playbill.com/news/article/90925.html

It should have played in London in 2006, but to my knowledge it never has ! And according to Frank's website it's now going to have a SPANISH Concept Album, and the Douglas Sills/Linda Eder (both great!) Demo will no longer be a concept album it looks like...?

Did it not happen because Douglas Sills was too busy or ..? Any ideas why it never happened (besides it being a Wildhorn show!)

[Wanna Be A Foster]

Posted: 7/13/08 at 8:14am

Frank Wildhorn wrote it.

THAT'S what happened.

End of story.

[NuggetMonkeys]

Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:32am

Wanna Be A Foster, I clicked on this thread for one reason: to write exactly what you had beat me to. Bravo.

[Weez]

Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:39am

I just LOVE it when people are so desperate to be first in with the snark that they don't bother reading a post properly. Pure brilliance! ^_^

[NuggetMonkeys]

Posted: 7/13/08 at 10:41am

Yeah, I only just read it now. Screw the substance, just get me to the punchline!

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 7/13/08 at 11:12am

I was looking forward to hearing it despite what some think of him

What a shame

I enjoy his shows much more than Wicked & Drowsy the latter being an entertaining bit of fluff. It is not another Oklahoma as some seem to think it is. To each his own.

Updated On: 7/13/08 at 11:12 AM

[JohnPopa]

Posted: 7/13/08 at 11:30am

It wouldn't surprise me to learn that Wildhorn has trouble getting his shows financed. Even his shows that have run have failed to pay back their investors. At some point someone's going to need to believe they have a chance of making their money back on one of his shows.

[philly03]

Posted: 7/13/08 at 11:38am

The only Wildhorn show I completely hate is The Civil War! I love just about everything else, all of hte Pimpernels, Jekyll on Broadway, even Dracula had it's moments...but TCV..YIKES!

And that's why Wildhorn is doing everything in Europe now. The Germans (probably because of the Hoff!) & Austrians LOVE him over there, as do that one all-female theatre company in Japan. All of his shows have been successful over there -- including Dracula (I doubt The Civil War was ever "transfered" over there). Anyone who flops the same show FOUR times is always going to present a risk, but isn't that part of this business?

It's too bad, his music is always pleasent to me...some bad lyrics here and there, sometimes boring, but oh well! And he always has a GREAT opening cast!

[Weez]

Posted: 7/13/08 at 11:46am

Awww, I love 'The Civil War'. :3 Granted, a lot of why I love it is because of the terrible lyrics, but it's genuine affection nonetheless.

Y'know how they like to publish books of "ALBUMS YOU MUST OWN!", "ALBUMS YOU MUST LISTEN TO!", "ALBUMS WE'VE DECIDED TO WRITE UP IN A BOOK AND THERE'S NO LOGICAL CONNECTION!"? Most of these books don't ever feature any cast recordings, but I did find one book that had a section of musicals. And it was the most bizarre section ever. Two different recordings of 'The Rocky Horror Show', the 'Sound Of Music' soundtrack and a cast recording, and 'The Civil War'. I have no idea what crack those writers were on. O_o

[adamgreer]

Posted: 7/13/08 at 12:27pm

Jekyll and Hyde didn't make money on Broadway, but I can assure you, his investors have been more than paid back my the infinite number of regional and community productions of the show, similar to what happened with Seussical.

[BobbyBubby]

Posted: 7/13/08 at 12:33pm

For once, I agree 100% with Foster.

[philly03]

Posted: 7/13/08 at 2:13pm

"Jekyll and Hyde didn't make money on Broadway, but I can assure you, his investors have been more than paid back my the infinite number of regional and community productions of the show, similar to what happened with Seussical. "

Jekyll only closed about $1 MIL from recouping on Broadway, and with the Non-Eq tour & the "Broadway tour" (Chuck Wagner's tour), and all of the regional productions..it probably did.

The Civil War probably NO way paid back...it's only been seen a number of times since & usually at museums (haahah).

I find it extremely hard to believe that The Scarlet Pimpernel could have ever recouped even close. The show was never a money-maker, but the producers from SP1 either left or put in more money with the new producers from SP2, which then some dropped out and others added for the mini-tour; some dropped out and some added for the SP3 Broadway venture, and then SP4 for the most part was all new investors. What a mess. And I'm pretty sure Douglas Sills didn't come back for SP4 for nothing..!

Dracula.....well who cares.

From his three first shows on Broadway, Frank lost over $20 MIL, and only about $1 MIL from Jekyll, so SP1-3 & CW obviously lost a lot. I don't know about Dracula though, which still probably lost a lot.

[BobPopa]

Posted: 7/13/08 at 2:41pm

Frank actually gets 3 1/3 shows on Broadway as he wrote additional material for Victor/Victoria.

I wish he would write a show with some big band style numbers in it. I enjoy the big band style songs he wrote on some of Linda Eder's solo album

He was also at one time working on an Alice in Wonderland musical

[blaxx]

Posted: 7/13/08 at 3:17pm

enjoy his shows much more than Wicked & Drowsy the latter being an entertaining bit of fluff.

And Wildhorn shows are fluff too, but not entertaining.

[philly03]

Posted: 7/13/08 at 3:58pm

If you mean that his shows "spoonfeed" you the message, then I have no idea what you mean by fluff with the exception of Jekyll & HYDE and the song "Good & Evil". However, I don't call a prostitute ("who wants change") getting stabbed in the back and murdered fluff. You could say the Pimpernel was fluff-y, but that was the complete intention of it. I don't remember Dracula enough, and I never saw the Civil War so I can't comment on those. I happen to find his shows extremely entertaining (overall), but they certainly all have a boring side to them.

"He was also at one time working on an Alice in Wonderland musical"

He still is. Along with this for a 2009 expected production time line (starring Raphael..Spain's Jekyll/HYDE). Other projects that are further down the line as to most completed: Camille Claudel, Waiting for the Moon (?), & Svengali; but it looks like Camille is put on hold for a while..and Svengali probably isn't going anywhere anymore.

[Weez]

Posted: 7/13/08 at 5:23pm

I honestly believe Frank Wildhorn would be a lot more successful had he materialised a little earlier and Andrew Lloyd Webber never happened.

But I also believe Andrew Lloyd Webber - like him and his music or not - has done a heckuva lot for musical theatre, so as much as I love Wildhorn, I don't tend to wish Webber had never happened. Sorry Frank. (Not that I can change things anyway. XD)

Updated On: 7/13/08 at 05:23 PM

[TooDarnHot]

Posted: 7/13/08 at 5:30pm

Wildhorn is a hot mess.

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 7/13/08 at 8:36pm

Do not share your opinion Blaxx . You are entitled to them as am I . I will agree to disagee.