CATSNYrevival said: "JennH said: "P of E, at least what I saw at T.W. was basically a travesty and much of it missed the point to why the movie is a much beloved masterpiece. Of course I can't speak on the book for any other production after T.W. but if they didn't overhaul it, it's gonna have a rough road if they're gonna take it to NY, and it's seems like that's the plan considering this West End production, limited though it may be."I'm wondering if the book was drastically different or at least revised. TheTuacahn production was pretty straightforward and staged in a large amphitheater so thedesign was large scalelike the West End production looks to be shaping up to be.Thepictures from Theatre Works do look like the production was very sparse and presentational.I imagine the book must have been revised somewhat to adjust for the change in scale."It was VERY sparse and more REPresentationl than anything, it was strange mix of both actually. Some parts were more presentational and others were more abstract. Never a good thing, as it leads to a show identity crisis. I distinctly remember my brother laughing at how people were playing the chariots and burning bush. I did too, honestly...
Same way many screenwriters have messed up their own work when translating it to the stage? Frozen's screenplay was never all that great, but Lee made it even worse on stage. Some writers can write for one medium but not the other. But the T.W. script was changed entirely from the film when it didn't need it. That screenplay is a marvel. I daresay it's also the Schwartz's having imput, since as always, they're trying to not just rehash the film on stage, they're always trying to differentiate them. Which as a general practice in translation is fine, but as I've always said, P of E is already so good already that it doesn't need much change, if any at all. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. The script was pretty trite and lacking character development, but also it lacked a lot of focus on the TWO BOYS. That's what this particular piece is about, and that was another thing my brother noticed before even I did when we saw it.
Are they not using child actors for this production or have they just not cast them yet because of some kind of child labor laws I don't know about?
Well, the show has started last night and...woof. I'm so devasted if it's as bad as it sounds. https://twitter.com/miltonesque/status/1225562786249482242https://twitter.com/AnnaPridgeon/status/1225554716622544896https://twitter.com/jamesd_27/status/1225529997504458770https://twitter.com/Joe_punchbowl/status/1225201500714078208https://twitter.com/nakhaneofficial/status/1225347125971648512https://twitter.com/GoodillMatthew/status/1225248859410046976https://twitter.com/CorvustheCorvid/status/1225208094822666240
I saw it tonight, and it's bad. The cast is great, but the direction is abysmal, this must be one of the worst cases of nepotism in recent theatre history lol. It's not just the lack of a real set that bothers me, but the complete absence of vision, creativity and stage-craft. Everything is done with projections, the plagues are only described (a part from a few globes of fire falling down at the end of the song, but it's the same effect of POTO) and the least said about the parting of the Red Sea the better
imeldasturn said: "I saw it tonight, and it's bad. The cast is great, but the direction is abysmal, this must be one of the worst cases of nepotism in recent theatre history lol. It's not just the lack of a real set that bothers me, but the complete absence of vision, creativity and stage-craft. Everything is done with projections, the plagues are only described (a part from a few globes of fire falling down at the end of the song, but it's the same effect of POTO) and the least said about the parting of the Red Sea the better"how sad.
Sounds like the Papermill Hunchback all over again. Still devastated over how absolutely amateurish and cloying that production was, after all those years of waiting. The nepotism has got to stop. Imagine that next we'll get Pocahontas with an ensemble of "trees" (it's just a burlap sack put on right in front of our eyes, is that CLEVER or what?!) who pave over the entire show with school pageant narration.
I was really hoping this would turn into the hit the songs deserve.
And there it is. I really don't want this transferring. It sounds like it'll get torn apart by critics there, and rightly so, because the same would likely happen here. And that gif tweet from Joe Punchbowl is an AMAZING way to get the message across and it uses a potent scene and lien from the ACTUAL movie LOL!"That Disney ending!" Oh lord...what happened now?? I know how the TW production ended, and it was bad, but seems like it might have not been changed.
How did that production end?
darquegk said: "How did that production end?"
Ramses and Moses literally make up. When they part the Red Sea, you know how the army comes tries to kill them and stuff? Well, Idk if they kept the war scene or not. But, Ramses is like, "Sorry." And Moses forgives him and that's it. Guess even the Torah and the Bible's message & point of how pride is the downfall of one's self is no match for another Wicked.
And I also found the "set" on a IG video and OMG, what happened to that gorgeous concept art?!
The song list, according to someone who has seen it:ACT 1Deliver us - Egyptian Overseers, Hebrews, Yocheved, Tuya,Young MiriamFaster - Moses, Ramses, Hotep, PriestsOne Weak Link - SetiFootprints in the Sand - MosesOne Weak Link (Reprise) - Ramses, MosesSeti’s Return - Egyptian CourtDance to the Day - TzipporahAll I Ever Wanted - Miriam, Moses, Yocheved, Seti, TuyaThe Laws of the Gods - Hotep, EnsembleMake it Right - Ramses, Moses,Moses in the Desert - Moses, EnsembleThrough Heaven’s Eyes - Jethro, MidianitesFaster (Reprise) - Ramses, MosesNever in a Million Years - TzipporahAct One Finale - Full CompanyACT 2Through Heaven’s Eyes (Reprise) - TzipporahThe Naming Ceremony - TzipporahAlways on Your Side - Ramses, MosesSimcha* - Moses, Tzipporah, Miriam, HebrewsDeliver Us (Reprise) - Aaron, HebrewsThe Plagues - Ramses, Hotep, Miriam, Aaron, Moses, Tuya, Priests, Hebrews, EgyptiansFor the Rest of My Life - MosesHeartless - NefetariWhen You Believe - Miriam, Tzipporah, Young Girl, Moses, HebrewsAct Two Finale - Full Company
Thank you for the song list. What does the asterisk mean?
I have no clue lol
Endured this tonight...oh brother...Probably the worst directed show I have ever seen in my life.The staging and lighting is terrible. The raised section centre stage ruins the entire show just for a 10 second moment in act 2 that looks like absolute **** anyways. There is a blob that hangs in the centre of the stage all night obscuring the projections on the back wall and has no purpose what so ever and suddenly disappears at the end of act 2 after ruining the projections the whole night.The choreography is a joke. The dancers spend more time entering and exiting the stage moving props or hold up bricks or just standing there to make up numbers, than they do actually dancing. You can feel them dying inside every time they have to walk on that stage.In fact it should be renamed The Prince of Standing, because that is literally all that happens for the entire show. No one moves, there is no drama what so ever. Everything that happens happens with no reaction at all from anyone, they all just stand there. Except of course for when they are rolling across the stage...oh dear God the endless rolling...MAKE IT STOP!While they have done a good job getting the story more streamlined for those who don't know it (apart from the burning bush moment which is like WTF?) but the book is pretty terrible and it is flat boring ballads for nearly 3 hours.On the plus side, some of the music IS gorgeous and the cast are really on point vocally. But Holy Moses get an actual director in there to rip out the hideous staging and hanging blob. Get the props on some rails. Do some decent projections on the back wall and stage and FFS get that great cast moving occasionally!ABSOLUTE M.E.S.S!
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