Who saw "The Red Shoes?

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#1Who saw "The Red Shoes?
Posted: 7/13/07 at 2:53pm

Just curious...I've heard a few things from it...


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Kringas
#2re: Who saw 'The Red Shoes?
Posted: 7/13/07 at 2:57pm

First of all, I never saw The Red Shoes, I never heard of The Red Shoes, I don't give a f*ck about The Red Shoes. I decided to be a Rockette because this girl in my home town - Louella Heiner - had actually gotten out and made it in New York. And she was a Rockette. Well, she came home one Christmas to visit, and they gave her a parade. A goddamn parade! I twirled a friggin' baton for two hours in the rain. Unfortunately though, she got knocked up over Christmas - Merry Christmas - and never made it back to Radio City.
That was my plan. New York, New York. Except I had one minor problem. See, I was ugly as sin. I was ugly, skinny, homely, unattractive and flat as a pancake. Get the picture? Anyway, I got off this bus in my little white shoes, my little white tights, little white dress, my little ugly face, and my long blonde hair - which was natural then. I looked like a f*cking nurse! I had 87 dollars in my pocket and seven years of tap and acrobatics. I could do a hundred and eighty degree split and come up tapping the Morse Code. Well, with that kind of talent I figured the Mayor would be waiting for me at Port Authority. Wrong! I had to wait 6 months for an audition. Well, finally the big day came. I showed up at the Music Hall with my red patent leather tap shoes. And I did my little tap routine. And this man said to me: Can you do fankicks? - Well, sure I could do terrific fankicks. But they weren't good enough. Of course, what he was trying to tell me was...it was the way I looked, not the fankicks. So I said, "F*ck you, Radio City and the Rockettes! I'm gonna make on Broadway!"



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Updated On: 7/13/07 at 02:57 PM

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#2re: Who saw 'The Red Shoes?
Posted: 7/13/07 at 3:00pm

*hugs Kringy*


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#3re: Who saw 'The Red Shoes?
Posted: 7/13/07 at 3:01pm

Kringas i thought the same thing!

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#4re: Who saw 'The Red Shoes?
Posted: 7/13/07 at 3:03pm

I saw it...It was a disaster, that's about all I remember about it.


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#5re: Who saw 'The Red Shoes?
Posted: 7/13/07 at 3:04pm

k just checking


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Kringas
#6re: Who saw 'The Red Shoes?
Posted: 7/13/07 at 3:06pm

Well, Broadway, same story. Every audition. I mean I'd dance rings around the other girls and find myself in the alley with the other rejects. But after a while I caught on. I mean I had eyes. I saw what they were hiring. I also swiped my dance card once after an audition. And on a scale of 10....they gave me for dance 10. For looks: 3.


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#7re: Who saw 'The Red Shoes?
Posted: 7/13/07 at 3:07pm

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#8re: Who saw 'The Red Shoes?
Posted: 7/13/07 at 3:16pm

omg i sat and read all of that Kringas! and i knew how it ended and everything and i still couldn't help myself re: Who saw 'The Red Shoes?

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#9re: Who saw 'The Red Shoes?
Posted: 7/13/07 at 3:20pm

It was very dull and had way too many ballet sequences. IIRC, there was one part in Act II that was basically 20 minutes of ballet with no dialogue. The music however was not bad, and it did produce some nice songs. No doubt the failure was in part due to all the drama going on backstage.


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#10re: Who saw 'The Red Shoes?
Posted: 7/13/07 at 3:27pm

All I can say to Kringas is "WOW!"

I saw Jule Styne's THE RED SHOES at a preview back in 1993, I believe, at the Gershwin Theatre. Styne had been working on the show about a ballerina for years. It was to be his lackluster swan song, alas. It was a very poor show except for the overture which sounded like a hybrid of the overture to GYPSY. However, Styne's extended formal ballet music and the choreography was taken over by the New York City Ballet and was in their repertory at one time. I saw it at the New York State Theatre.

The night I saw THE RED SHOES I sat across the aisle from Jerome Robbins who was with an assistant who was taking notes during the performance. At intermission I said hello to Jule Styne who then had a conversation with Jerome Robbins about the show. I'm afraid Robbins didn't have encouraging support. It must have been a wistful discussion. But Styne surely knew his show was in big trouble. To the best of my knowledge no recording was made.


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Effie
#11re: Who saw 'The Red Shoes?
Posted: 7/13/07 at 4:20pm

I saw it in previews as well. The only things I remember are being bored stiff and wondering why they cast Roger Rees, since the score was way beyond his limited vocal abilities.

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#12re: Who saw 'The Red Shoes?
Posted: 7/13/07 at 4:26pm

Kringas beat me to it. re: Who saw 'The Red Shoes?


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dancinfan
#13re: Who saw 'The Red Shoes?
Posted: 7/13/07 at 4:37pm

I saw it midway through previews. It was a total mess at that point because they were overhauling it on a daily basis, and it was fascinating disaster. Roger Rees was quite possibly the most miscast person ever on a Broadway stage. I didn't think the ballet sequences were the problem at all. It was the slash-and-burned book, bad songs, and lack of transitional material and staging that killed it.

For those of you who don't know, Kringas has quoted Val from "A Chorus Line."

And it's Lar Lubovitch, not Lars. Lar makes even less sense, of course. Updated On: 7/13/07 at 04:37 PM

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#14re: Who saw 'The Red Shoes?
Posted: 7/13/07 at 4:38pm

Kringas... amazing.

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#15re: Who saw 'The Red Shoes?
Posted: 7/13/07 at 4:43pm

I saw it. Oh boy, did I see it.

Poor, poor Hugh Panaro.

Poor, poor Roger Rees.

Poor, poor Shirley Booth. Her lovely song from Jule Styne's LOOK TO THE LILLIES, "I, Yes, Me, That's Who" was recycled into the entr'acte for this misguided mess.

I kinda loved how the ballerina leapt to her death in grand jatte, arms in fifth.

But way too little, way too late.


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EponineThenardier
#16re: Who saw 'The Red Shoes?
Posted: 7/13/07 at 6:14pm

Does it have anything to do with the Hans Christian Anderson story? What's it about?

SorryGrateful
#18re: Who saw 'The Red Shoes?
Posted: 7/13/07 at 8:38pm

I love the movie. I love it sooooooo much. I love dancing and melodrama, so, with those two combined, the movie is just an extended orgasm for me.

Too much information?

I can't possibly imagine a stage production of it, though. To me, it's a very cinematic story, just as Moulin Rouge is, which also should not be onstage.


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#19re: Who saw 'The Red Shoes?
Posted: 7/13/07 at 8:53pm

I believe the ballet from it was recently reinstated at the NYCB rep--so it must be at least decent... I think Lars Lubovitch (what a name) did the choreography

What was the controversy with the director? I know Stanley DOnen (Singing in the Rain movie etc) got credit but I herd he pretty much was a disaster...

VIETgrlTerifa
#20re: Who saw 'The Red Shoes?
Posted: 7/13/07 at 9:03pm

Sorry, but I have to ask. Kringas, where is that from?


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#21re: Who saw 'The Red Shoes?
Posted: 7/13/07 at 9:15pm

Oh god.


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#22re: Who saw 'The Red Shoes?
Posted: 7/13/07 at 9:28pm

Sheila, Bebe, and Maggie.


(wink.)


VIETgrlTerifa
#23re: Who saw 'The Red Shoes?
Posted: 7/13/07 at 9:36pm

First of all, I've never seen A Chorus Line...and so and so and so and so.


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#24re: Who saw 'The Red Shoes?
Posted: 7/13/07 at 9:42pm

Kringas you just rock my world re: Who saw 'The Red Shoes?


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