Netflix to include more Broadway?

[DAME]

Posted: 6/26/17 at 3:36pm

Keeping fingers crossed.

 

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/netflix-may-have-just-discovered-its-next-genre-to-disrupt-broadway-2017-06-22?mod=mw_share_facebook

[schubox]

Posted: 6/26/17 at 3:40pm

Would be fantastic. I assumed Oh, Hello made it more as a comedy special than a broadway show. But  it would be amazing to see, maybe some of the less successful shows, or the shows that closes and would otherwise fade in to the memories of those who saw it.

[GeorgeandDot]

Posted: 6/26/17 at 3:45pm

I could see them filming shows now with the original cast and then releasing them once the show closes.  It would give the show a new life.

[adamgreer]

Posted: 6/26/17 at 3:48pm

It all sounded great until I got to the part where Ken Davenport was involved. 

[10086Sundays]

Posted: 6/26/17 at 3:53pm

Is he involved?  I thought they just quoted him as someone who's in the business.  I might have misread.

I wonder how shows that close, but still have a tour going would be affected by streaming the show.  Nothing can replace live theater, but folks who are not regular theater-goers and were on the fence about going might decide to stay home.

[DAME]

Posted: 6/26/17 at 3:58pm

10086Sundays said: "Is he involved?  I thought they just quoted him as someone who's in the business.  I might have misread.

I wonder how shows that close, but still have a tour going would be affected by streaming the show.  Nothing can replace live theater, but folks who are not regular theater-goers and were on the fence about going might decide to stay home.

 

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I actually think it helps.   

[Margo319]

Posted: 6/26/17 at 4:05pm

This is great.  I loved when Memphis and Shrek were on there.  I'm sure Newsies is next, and perhaps they'll put Falsettos on there too.  Heading in a great direction.

[carnzee]

Posted: 6/26/17 at 4:05pm

adamgreer said: "It all sounded great until I got to the part where Ken Davenport was involved. 

 

The article doesn't imply in any way that Davenport has a relationship with Netflix. 

 

[JennH]

Posted: 6/26/17 at 4:29pm

GeorgeandDot said: "I could see them filming shows now with the original cast and then releasing them once the show closes.  It would give the show a new life.

 

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This is 1000% what I would like to happen and should absolutely happen. Shows are always recorded fro posterity and obviously the Performing Arts library is super protective of them , which I can understand to a point, but I never understood why they can't be filmed with the O.C. and released after the shows closes, Broadway and touring if the powers that be are that adamant about it. 

[Islander_fan]

Posted: 6/26/17 at 4:31pm

I honestly hope that this does happen. And, if it does, I honestly think that Newsies will be on there. Disney has a great relationship with Netflix right now. It's not taking long for their newer movies to get up there not super long after their digital and DVD/Blu Ray release. Example, Moana is on there now. So, I can see Newsies showing up there easily. 

 

All in all, I think that this would be more successful in a business sense and as a way to get theatre to more people. While I like the idea of BroadwayHD, it's a niche product marketed to a niche audience. There'd be more money to be made for producers if they are letting Netflix show their shows rather thanBroadway HD. I think that since that'll be the case, we would be getting more producers willing to go down this path.

[g.d.e.l.g.i.]

Posted: 6/26/17 at 5:19pm

Prediction: Netflix will include as much Broadway as it always has once it learns about the costs involved in filming and releasing -- in any form -- a Broadway show.

I'm willing to be proven wrong by time, but I doubt that will happen.

[VintageSnarker]

Posted: 6/26/17 at 5:21pm

I certainly don't see them amassing a catalogue like the NYPL but for less successful shows like Daddy Long Legs or subscription houses like BroadwayHD/Roundabout it's a distinct possibility. I feel like the best option would be to somehow make a deal with the PBS/Live From Lincoln Center people who know how to film shows. Netflix used to have Into the Woods (OBC) and they still carry Shrek (filmed stage show) and some movie musicals. 

I wonder (if it happens) if they'll actively try to film productions or just work with people who have already done that work like Newsies, Allegiance, Live From Lincoln Center, etc.

[MarkBearSF]

Posted: 6/26/17 at 5:29pm

What would be really interesting would be if they (or BroadwayHD) could get rights to NT Live productions.

[Islander_fan]

Posted: 6/26/17 at 8:04pm

g.d.e.l.g.i. said: "Prediction: Netflix will include as much Broadway as it always has once it learns about the costs involved in filming and releasing -- in any form -- a Broadway show.

I'm willing to be proven wrong by time, but I doubt that will happen.

I see where you're coming from. But, I honestly think that if anyone can easily foot the bill for filming Broadway shows, Netflix can. Despite it being called a comedy special, they filmed Oh,Hello which was a broadway show. If they have the money for that I'd think that they've got the money to film other shows tooo.

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[adamgreer]

Posted: 6/26/17 at 8:22pm

Islander_fan said: "g.d.e.l.g.i. said: "Prediction: Netflix will include as much Broadway as it always has once it learns about the costs involved in filming and releasing -- in any form -- a Broadway show.

I'm willing to be proven wrong by time, but I doubt that will happen.

I see where you're coming from. But, I honestly think that if anyone can easily foot the bill for filming Broadway shows, Netflix can. Despite it being called a comedy special, they filmed Oh,Hello which was a broadway show. If they have the money for that I'd think that they've got the money to film other shows tooo.

I would imagine (though I'm no expert on these things) that Oh, Hello, with its cast of two, who are also the authors of the piece, is probably significantly less expensive to film, than say, Newsies was. 

[thealtoslament]

Posted: 6/26/17 at 8:33pm

Shows are filmed for archival/research anyway, right? Couldn't Netflix theoretically make a deal with the library at Lincoln Center to obtain streaming rights for a show X number of years after it closed? 

[GavestonPS]

Posted: 6/26/17 at 8:40pm

thealtoslament said: "Shows are filmed for archival/research anyway, right? Couldn't Netflix theoretically make a deal with the library at Lincoln Center to obtain streaming rights for a show X number of years after it closed? 

 

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I haven't seen any of the NYPL tapes, but I understand from numerous sources that they are not commercial quality. Taping a live show for broadcast is significantly more expensive.

On the other hand, the content already exists; perhaps that will offset the additional cost of multi-camera filming.

So I don't know the final cost, but the suggestion above that Netflix has yet to find out strikes me as laughable.

[nycward]

Posted: 6/26/17 at 8:41pm

But the minimal camera and production values that are employed for archival purposes are very different from the extensive multi-camera presentation required for broad entertainment. I would doubt that archival tapings for Lincoln Center Library would hold up as entertainment on Netflix.

[thealtoslament]

Posted: 6/26/17 at 8:57pm

nycward said: "But the minimal camera and production values that are employed for archival purposes are very different from the extensive multi-camera presentation required for broad entertainment. I would doubt that archival tapings for Lincoln Center Library would hold up as entertainment on Netflix.

 

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Ah, I see. I haven't been able to find very much information about the archival tapings, I didn't realize they were not commercial-grade. My mistake. 

[GavestonPS]

Posted: 6/26/17 at 9:18pm

^^^ No apology necessary. We're all learning here.

[g.d.e.l.g.i.]

Posted: 6/27/17 at 1:40am

Islander_fan said: "I see where you're coming from. But, I honestly think that if anyone can easily foot the bill for filming Broadway shows, Netflix can."

Honey, they can't even foot the bill for their own series right now, hence the wave of cancellations. Their new dictum is to start thinking more like a television network and focusing on product that's catching on with the public rather than being all Apple Records 2.0, approving everything and hoping for the best.

[Islander_fan]

Posted: 6/27/17 at 2:06am

adamgreer said: "Islander_fan said: "g.d.e.l.g.i. said: "Prediction: Netflix will include as much Broadway as it always has once it learns about the costs involved in filming and releasing -- in any form -- a Broadway show.

I'm willing to be proven wrong by time, but I doubt that will happen.

I see where you're coming from. But, I honestly think that if anyone can easily foot the bill for filming Broadway shows, Netflix can. Despite it being called a comedy special, they filmed Oh,Hello which was a broadway show. If they have the money for that I'd think that they've got the money to film other shows tooo.

I would imagine (though I'm no expert on these things) that Oh, Hello, with its cast of two, who are also the authors of the piece, is probably significantly less expensive to film, than say, Newsies was. 

 Well, to be fair, Disney foot the bill on Newsies. Considering that Disney does have a deal with Netflix to have their movies on there, old and new, I wouldn't be shocked if Newsies ended up their simply as a result of the business relationship between the two companies. 

g.d.e.l.g.i. Financial success of Netflix  if you read the article, you'll see that they are doing far better than last year, thanks to original programing. They aren't canceling original content because of money. Many of the shows that are being canceled that are made solely by Netflix and are being canceled is not because of money, but because the shows have run their course. With the money Netflix is making they could easily produce Broadway shows. Keep in mind, if we were talking Netflix circa 2016, then there's a chance that we'd be having a different discussion. But, they are doing very well overall. 

[g.d.e.l.g.i.]

Posted: 6/27/17 at 2:28am

Islander_fan said: "Financial success of Netflix  if you read the article, you'll see that they are doing far better than last year, thanks to original programing. They aren't canceling original content because of money. Many of the shows that are being canceled that are made solely by Netflix and are being canceled is not because of money, but because the shows have run their course."

Really? 'Cause everything I'm reading suggests The Get Down in particular was troubled from minute one, and wound up costing them close to $200 million to produce just the first season, and the ratings didn't justify sticking with it if ballooning costs meant they'd lose half their content development budget on one show. If they're not smart enough to prepare for high costs on a Baz Luhrmann project, and way overpaid for it to begin with, I'd say that doesn't bode well for their decision-making abilities, but that's just me...

Updated On: 6/27/17 at 02:28 AM