Hamilton Professional Filming of OBC
Hamilton Professional Filming of OBC
broadwaysfguy
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/27/14
#1Hamilton Professional Filming of OBC
Posted: 5/8/16 at 1:31pm
Im sorry if i missed this.
Can any of the close hamilton followers or industry insiders confirm that they have already Filmed the OBC for future use or distribution? Miranda must have a sense of the historic nature of the show so im really hoping the answer is yes....
#2Hamilton Professional Recording of OBC
Posted: 5/8/16 at 1:32pm
Yes, it's called the cast recording.
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#3Hamilton Professional Recording of OBC
Posted: 5/8/16 at 1:34pm
No, the show has not been professionally filmed for release yet.
BrodyFosse123
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/27/06
broadwaysfguy
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/27/14
#5Hamilton Professional Recording of OBC
Posted: 5/8/16 at 1:37pm
yes Jordan thank you
i was talking about filming....that is too bad, with Groff already gone and much of the cast leaving after July.
chi-town_bwayfangirl
Chorus Member Joined: 4/9/16
#6Hamilton Professional Recording of OBC
Posted: 5/8/16 at 1:47pm
How do the recordings that ultimately become available at the Lincoln Center library work? I know no shows are available for viewing at library if they're currently in production, but just wondering if that recording is less of a "professional" recording, if it always covers original cast, if everything gets recorded or only certain ones, etc? Apologies if this question is answered on another thread. I've never gone there to view anything since I'm not a student or in the profession.
lida rose
Understudy Joined: 6/5/10
#7Hamilton Professional Recording of OBC
Posted: 5/8/16 at 1:49pm
Even though the original cast is leaving soon they could still come back to film it. That's what happened with Into the Woods, South Pacific, etc
#8Hamilton Professional Recording of OBC
Posted: 5/8/16 at 1:56pm
Did Lin say that he wanted the show to be professionally filmed with the original cast for wide spread distribution
dramamama611
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/4/07
#9Hamilton Professional Recording of OBC
Posted: 5/8/16 at 2:07pm
It could happen...but it will be years until it gets released. Years.
As to the library recordings, I can answer some of your questions. No, it is not always the original cast. In this case, we know it won't be as a number of them have already left. Usually, the only shows that don't get recorded are those that either close too fast, or announce a closing with no time to arrange. (I wouldn't be surprised if Disaster! didn't get recorded.)
Anyone can view the films. All you need is "a reason" and a NYC Library card. (which anyone can get, I beleive.)
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broadwaysfguy
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/27/14
#10Hamilton Professional Recording of OBC
Posted: 5/8/16 at 2:11pm
lin is not like most creatives...i think he might get this out into distribution especially if it was some program specifically for school kids
BrodyFosse123
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/27/06
#11Hamilton Professional Recording of OBC
Posted: 5/8/16 at 2:19pm
Anyone can view the films. All you need is "a reason" and a NYC Library card. (which anyone can get, I beleive.)
Not true. You can not view any archived show that is currently playing. Once it closes, it becomes available to view.
aaaaaa15
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/31/15
#12Hamilton Professional Recording of OBC
Posted: 5/8/16 at 2:26pm
NewsiesForever said: "Did Lin say that he wanted the show to be professionally filmed with the original cast for wide spread distribution"
No. That got reported but he said it was a misquote.
#14Hamilton Professional Recording of OBC
Posted: 5/8/16 at 3:40pm
BrodyFosse123 said: "Anyone can view the films. All you need is "a reason" and a NYC Library card. (which anyone can get, I beleive.)
Not true. You can not view any archived show that is currently playing. Once it closes, it becomes available to view.
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Certain other shows also have various restrictions on them for various reasons (I think widow Goodman might have made the various Follies revival recordings harder to see for example). But yes it's ridiculously easy for the most part--I wasn't even asked a reason when I went to see the 1971 video of the original tour of Company back in Nov.
Disaster was recorded I believe on one of its final shows. Wasn't the original off Broadway run of Hamilton recorded? But yea, recordings TOFTS are often done later in the run. They also keep home made bootlegs for some shows they missed like Big Deal and Merrily which I know some have questioned the ethics of.
#15Hamilton Professional Recording of OBC
Posted: 5/8/16 at 3:43pm
Since they're currently making a documentary about 'Hamilton' that's going to air later this year on PBS, and LMM has already had success in the theater, my guess is that when they got together to record the cast album he and the producers arranged to have some cameras there to film the cast members singing at various times (I've seen snippets of this on various news shows). I'm sure they didn't record the entire thing, and no professional video recording of the show currently exists. There is at least one bootleg that I know of, and there are probably others out there, but the only professionally filmed parts of the show are the ones done for the press reels.
#16Hamilton Professional Recording of OBC
Posted: 5/8/16 at 3:47pm
it will eventually be made into a film but it will never be filmed onstage for release. who is in it will depend on who makes it and what it wants to be.
and Miranda does not have control over any of these things. Clearly it will not happen until the frenzy abates.
#17Hamilton Professional Recording of OBC
Posted: 5/8/16 at 3:48pm
NewsiesForever said: "Did Lin say that he wanted the show to be professionally filmed with the original cast for wide spread distribution"
Actually, yes. He did say this and he said it to me personally when we were talking about the importance of theater being preserved. He knows it won't be shown/made available for a very very long time, but he does want the show filmed with the entire original cast and released for distribution at some point.
dramamama611
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/4/07
#18Hamilton Professional Recording of OBC
Posted: 5/8/16 at 4:18pm
BrodyFosse123 said: "Anyone can view the films. All you need is "a reason" and a NYC Library card. (which anyone can get, I beleive.)
Not true. You can not view any archived show that is currently playing. Once it closes, it becomes available to view.
"
Yes, that was already established in the post to which I was responding, so I saw no reason to repeat it.
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broadwaysfguy
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/27/14
#19Hamilton Professional Recording of OBC
Posted: 5/8/16 at 4:36pm
great to hear, Jordan, thanks...
when you think of the value of this original content, im suprised every broadway producer doesnt budget a multicamera video of each OBC of major productions.
I know most of these shoot over three or four nights with a live audience and typically lose a few hundred seats for the cameras and booms.
Does anyone know for example, how much it cost to film Memphis OBC, which was a fantastic filming and capture of their OBC?
#20Hamilton Professional Recording of OBC
Posted: 5/8/16 at 4:53pm
The thing is, a commercial *ie not the archive) filming of a show isn't just expensive to film--it's VERY expensive in terms of cast contracts, etc. That, to the best of my understanding, is where the issue lies.
#21Hamilton Professional Recording of OBC
Posted: 5/8/16 at 5:08pm
aaaaaa15 said: "NewsiesForever said: "Did Lin say that he wanted the show to be professionally filmed with the original cast for wide spread distribution"
No. That got reported but he said it was a misquote. "
I don't think it was a "misquote." He meant that he wanted it filmed professionally but that wouldn't necessarily happen due to all the things that normally prevent these things from happening. But he definitely said it.
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aaaaaa15
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/31/15
#22Hamilton Professional Recording of OBC
Posted: 5/8/16 at 5:14pm
Just going off what he said. From what I can remember, he literally said the word misquote and said that he was referring to the filming for the library. However, if he has said something different to Jordan then maybe he just wants to keep his plans private so as not to keep people's hopes up.
aaaaaa15
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/31/15
#23Hamilton Professional Recording of OBC
Posted: 5/8/16 at 5:17pm
Here's what I was referring to:
'There are no plans to film the current cast, Miranda says, contrary to a widely spread misquote.'
http://europe.newsweek.com/hamilton-biggest-thing-broadway-being-taught-classrooms-all-over-424212
#24Hamilton Professional Recording of OBC
Posted: 5/8/16 at 9:18pm
They did videotape a few of the songs for advertisement/commercial/media stuff. The ones I've seen on youtube are snippets of "Alexander Hamilton", "My Shot", "Schuyler Sisters", "Satisfied", "Room Where it Happens", etc. Below is an example of one of the youtube videos online of snippets of the show. I haven't seen any professionally made videos of any King George III (Groff) songs though.
#25Hamilton Professional Recording of OBC
Posted: 5/8/16 at 10:34pm
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned that shows are also sometimes filmed by the producers early on for use in preparing TV commercials. I've seen rough bootlegs of THE BOY FROM OZ and GREY GARDENS and FOLLIES because a friend of a friend does this for a living. For all I know, doing so may violate every rule in the union contract, but it happens. (Based on what I've seen, such films are not commercial quality and are only used to pick the footage that will be re-filmed for TV commercials and b-rolls. The footage doesn't actually show up on TV.)
What was done with HAMILTON I have no idea.
ETA Actually, now I *do* have an idea because Wick3 was not only posting simultaneously, but supplied us with an example. Thanks, Wick.
