When did Ice Cream become Vanilla Ice Cream

[yfs]

Posted: 3/19/16 at 8:17pm

And why? 

 

 

[SNAFU]

Posted: 3/19/16 at 8:23pm

I would assume when they added Vanilla bean to it for flavoring. Before that it was sweet  cream ice cream, which you can still buy. They do taste different.

 

[KJisgroovy]

Posted: 3/19/16 at 8:24pm

If you're not going to add Vanilla bean, you can add vanilla extract... or vanilla paste if you want those little black flecks. 

[Mr. Nowack]

Posted: 3/19/16 at 9:03pm

I'd be interested to know. It's totally pointless to call it Vanilla Ice Cream.

[followspot]

Posted: 3/19/16 at 9:14pm

(Maybe y'all are just goofing in response, but...)

I'm going to venture a guess that the OP is asking when and why the title of the classic SHE LOVES ME song "Ice Cream" (OBC recording) became "Vanilla Ice Cream" (all revival recordings and the current revival Playbill).


 

Updated On: 3/20/16 at 09:14 PM

[best12bars]

Posted: 3/19/16 at 9:56pm

The title of the song changed. It's a legit question as to why.

[laughingplace]

Posted: 3/19/16 at 11:02pm

I was wondering why this was on the Broadway Board, And this answered it. !!! Cheers

 

followspot said: "(Maybe y'all are just goofing in response, but) I'm going to venture a guess that the OP is asking when and why the classic SHE LOVES ME song "Ice Cream" (OBC recording) became "Vanilla Ice Cream" on all revival recordings (and in the current revival Playbill).

 

 


 

 

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[DooWahDiddy]

Posted: 3/19/16 at 11:54pm

Every piece of sheet music I've seen for this song (which is a lot, since I play auditions) says "Vanilla Ice Cream", for what that's worth.  It's probably a matter of what the song became known as over the years.  When it was written, it seemed right to call it "Ice Cream".  Then people became familiar with it another way, and it morphed into that.  No big deal; they just want to make sure people know the "hit" song is in the show.

[KnewItWhenIWasInFron]

Posted: 3/20/16 at 12:42am

Who said it's a "big deal?" A person asked a question. It is interesting. It would be swell if someone could answer it.

[DooWahDiddy]

Posted: 3/20/16 at 12:56am

Well, I am answering it.  What I'm saying is that I would be willing to bet there wasn't some huge discussion about it.  Over the years the song became popular, and they want to sell tickets to their show.  By still calling it "Ice Cream", people may not realize it's "Vanilla Ice Cream" and it might cost them some ticket sales. 

The same thing happened to Elton John's song "Rocket Man".  That, and that alone, was the original title.  Then future pressings and versions became known as "Rocket Man (I Think It's Gonna Be a Long, Long Time)", because that's the part everyone knows.  I'm not saying it's not a big deal as in Jesus, lighten up; I'm saying it's not a big deal in that the song became known a certain way so they slapped the extra word onto the title without discussion.  No big deal.

Updated On: 3/20/16 at 12:56 AM

[Hariku]

Posted: 3/20/16 at 2:04am

But you would LOOK at a 45 and decide whether or not to buy it, so the Elton John alternation makes . No one looks at a song list of a show to figure out if they want to buy a ticket or not.

So there still hasn't been a real answer to the question of how a song changed official titles over time....Not what people called it, or knew it as, but the official title./

 

[BrodyFosse123]

Posted: 3/20/16 at 2:12am

The bigger question is: when did "Memory" from CATS turn into "Memories"?  

[gypsy101]

Posted: 3/20/16 at 2:19am

BrodyFosse123 said: "The bigger question is: when did "Memory" from CATS turn into "Memories"?  "

 

Probably because of the Barbra Streisand album Memories

[DooWahDiddy]

Posted: 3/20/16 at 2:23am

Hariku said: "No one looks at a song list of a show to figure out if they want to buy a ticket or not."
 

I respectfully disagree with that.  People who don't see a show every week want to see shows with songs they know.  It's why revivals do so well; it's why Mamma Mia did so well; the list goes on.  Imagine you're a producer of She Loves Me and you're at a party:

"You should come see this show I'm producing."
"Oh, would I know any of the songs?"
"Yeah, 'Ice Cream'."
"I don't know that one."
"'Vanilla Ice Cream'."
"Ohhhh, yeah, I love that song!  Sure, I'll come."
 

It's just an identification tool, that's all.  If you're looking for a different answer, I'm not sure what else is out there for you.  The composer of a song is allowed to do whatever they want, if they own the copyright.  You can also register a song with ASCAP and BMI under more than one title, if you'd like.  They allow that to happen because they know you wouldn't do it unless it was in your (and therefore their) best interest to do so, as it is in this case.

 

[Speed]

Posted: 3/20/16 at 3:33am

Doo- no one looks at a song list to make their decision.  They're not available at the box office.  It's something you see in Playbill after you arrive.

[Mr. Nowack]

Posted: 3/20/16 at 3:45am

The song isn't thaaaaat well known though, at least not anymore.