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How come the 2008 production of GYPSY didn't win the Tony for Best Revival?

How come the 2008 production of GYPSY didn't win the Tony for Best Revival?

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#1How come the 2008 production of GYPSY didn't win the Tony for Best Revival?
Posted: 12/21/13 at 3:09pm

It was one of the greatest performances I have ever seen on a Broadway stage and I was wondering why it didn't win Best Revival.

Musicaldudepeter
#2How come the 2008 production of GYPSY didn't win the Tony for Best Revival?
Posted: 12/21/13 at 3:16pm

Because South Pacific was the critical darling of that season. It was a sentimental win, because it was the first revival of the show since its original production in 1949. If Gypsy wasn't included that season, I think South Pacific would have swept the acting awards too, with wins for Kelli O'Hara and Danny Burstein or Loretta Ables Sayre possibly...

Gypsy as a production had its flaws; I felt it was really Arthur Laurents saying "Everyone, look at me, this is how Gypsy should be done. Suck it, Mendes!" ... Plus, the performances of LuPone, Gaines and Benanti were truly the best thing about that show and held it together... Phenomenal that three acting awards went to one show that season - when else has that happened (The Producers...?)

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#2How come the 2008 production of GYPSY didn't win the Tony for Best Revival?
Posted: 12/21/13 at 3:27pm

South Pacific was incredible. One of the most satisfying theatrical experiences I've had. I liked Gypsy, but it had nothing on SP.


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Musicaldudepeter
#3How come the 2008 production of GYPSY didn't win the Tony for Best Revival?
Posted: 12/21/13 at 3:28pm

SP was in the V Beaumont, it had that gigantic orchestra... Enough said

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#4How come the 2008 production of GYPSY didn't win the Tony for Best Revival?
Posted: 12/21/13 at 3:29pm

>SP was in the V Beaumont, it had that gigantic orchestra... Enough said<

Was anything said?


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Musicaldudepeter
#5How come the 2008 production of GYPSY didn't win the Tony for Best Revival?
Posted: 12/21/13 at 3:43pm

Yes, why Gypsy didn't win the Tony was questioned, so I'm saying South Pacific had a gigantic orchestra and played at the VB - enough said, i.e. that's why it won the Tony.

Jeez. People pickin' fights for the sake of it around here these days.

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bwayphreak234
#6How come the 2008 production of GYPSY didn't win the Tony for Best Revival?
Posted: 12/21/13 at 3:43pm

I saw the national tour of the South Pacific revival. It was magnificent.


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#7How come the 2008 production of GYPSY didn't win the Tony for Best Revival?
Posted: 12/21/13 at 3:58pm

What does the Vivian Beaumont have to do with anything? Or the size of South Pacific's orchestra (as Gypsy had a sizable orchestra of its own)? The point, if you have one, seems nonsensical.


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#8How come the 2008 production of GYPSY didn't win the Tony for Best Revival?
Posted: 12/21/13 at 4:01pm

I don't see Smaxie picking a fight, either, just trying to figure out what your rationale was. Yes, the orchestra was impressive, but neither that nor the physical theater would equal a Tony Award.


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Musicaldudepeter
#9How come the 2008 production of GYPSY didn't win the Tony for Best Revival?
Posted: 12/21/13 at 4:02pm

Oh, it has everything to do with it. Absolutely everything, Smaxie. You're nonsensical.

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#10How come the 2008 production of GYPSY didn't win the Tony for Best Revival?
Posted: 12/21/13 at 4:17pm

Gypsy swept the musical acting categories- that seems like a pretty fantastic enough acknowledgement of the production to me.


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Musicaldudepeter
#11How come the 2008 production of GYPSY didn't win the Tony for Best Revival?
Posted: 12/21/13 at 4:19pm

dramamama your mother equalled a Tony award last night

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#12How come the 2008 production of GYPSY didn't win the Tony for Best Revival?
Posted: 12/21/13 at 4:20pm

What the hell is your problem?


"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."

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#13How come the 2008 production of GYPSY didn't win the Tony for Best Revival?
Posted: 12/21/13 at 4:22pm

I thought Kelli O'Hara should have won for South Pacific. It was a beautiful production.

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Sutton Ross
#14How come the 2008 production of GYPSY didn't win the Tony for Best Revival?
Posted: 12/21/13 at 4:28pm

"dramamama your mother equalled a Tony award last night"

WTF?

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bwayphreak234
#15How come the 2008 production of GYPSY didn't win the Tony for Best Revival?
Posted: 12/21/13 at 4:31pm

Damn, someone has got a bee up their butt today.


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dramamama611
#16How come the 2008 production of GYPSY didn't win the Tony for Best Revival?
Posted: 12/21/13 at 4:41pm

Wow, someone doesn't know how to participate in a conversation.


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#17How come the 2008 production of GYPSY didn't win the Tony for Best Revival?
Posted: 12/21/13 at 5:33pm

The fact that people had been waiting for a revival of SOUTH PACIFIC for almost 60 years and when it happened, it was one of the most glorious sounding and looking productions they could have ever hoped for is why the show won the Tony award over a show, that while fantastic, is revived every few years.

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aasjb4ever
#18How come the 2008 production of GYPSY didn't win the Tony for Best Revival?
Posted: 12/21/13 at 5:36pm

Gypsy was a really wonderful show, but when I saw South Pacific on Live From Lincoln Center, it was clear that it was a far superior production. It was absolutely gorgeous.

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#19How come the 2008 production of GYPSY didn't win the Tony for Best Revival?
Posted: 12/21/13 at 6:27pm

It happened for Hairspray- Fierstein, Winokur and Latessa ( out of its 8 wins). I’m sure there must be more.


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#20How come the 2008 production of GYPSY didn't win the Tony for Best Revival?
Posted: 12/21/13 at 6:47pm

Answer:

Because not enough Tony voters voted for it to win.

Enough said.


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LMcC95
#21How come the 2008 production of GYPSY didn't win the Tony for Best Revival?
Posted: 12/21/13 at 8:25pm

Watch South Pacific on YouTube. It is on there. A live form Lincoln center show. It is amazing!!!! The set alone is great

KathyNYC2
#22How come the 2008 production of GYPSY didn't win the Tony for Best Revival?
Posted: 12/22/13 at 12:55am

South Pacific was just too good...and the cast was fabulous, the theater was beautiful and the orchestra was awesome.

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#23How come the 2008 production of GYPSY didn't win the Tony for Best Revival?
Posted: 12/22/13 at 1:11am

Because SOUTH PACIFIC was spectacularly beautifully directed, staged, acted, etc.
And that 2008 revival of GYPSY was completely without any heart. Plus it had a stagehand walk across with a marionette of a baby lamb.

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#24How come the 2008 production of GYPSY didn't win the Tony for Best Revival?
Posted: 12/22/13 at 1:37am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHt9LuoynPY


"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022) "Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009) "Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000