Mamma Mia's first black Donna

RW3
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Mamma Mia's first black Donna
Posted: 12/10/13 at 08:59am
Well, Mamma Mia has its first black Donna.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G1EgLc6ANQ
iluvtheatertrash
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Mamma Mia's first black Donna
Posted: 12/10/13 at 09:17am
I don't speak Austrian, but judging by ages, it seems to me that all three possible fathers and Sophie are white. I'm fine with color-blind casting, as long as it's done appropriately.
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FindingNamo
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Mamma Mia's first black Donna
Posted: 12/10/13 at 09:20am
If it's only done "appropriately" then can it really be called color-blind casting?
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Kad
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Mamma Mia's first black Donna
Posted: 12/10/13 at 09:40am
A black woman and a white man could produce a child who could appear "white."
The Distinctive Baritone
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Posted: 12/10/13 at 09:46am
Yes, but...usually not, let's be honest. But it's a musical - an ABBA jukebox musical at that, so realism isn't really required I guess.
LizzieCurry
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Mamma Mia's first black Donna
Posted: 12/10/13 at 10:00am
And their Harry is Middle Eastern. Go Vienna!
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Kad
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Posted: 12/10/13 at 10:07am
If it CAN happen, and in the world of this production, it did.

And it can happen. Look at Rashida Jones.
madbrian
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Mamma Mia's first black Donna
Posted: 12/10/13 at 10:19am
If race isn't an issue, then it isn't an issue. In the Mamma Mia movie, it's very unlikely that Meryl Streep (5'6") and any of the possible dads (all 6'2" or taller) would have produced a daughter as petite as Amanda Seyfried. However, I heard no protests about casting such a short actress.
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adamgreer
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Mamma Mia's first black Donna
Posted: 12/10/13 at 10:20am
It's Mamma Mia. Are we really that concerned about "realism"?

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~Walt Disney

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My name is neither "adam" nor "greer."
sparepart973
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Mamma Mia's first black Donna
Posted: 12/10/13 at 10:20am
Austrian=German
JRybka
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Mamma Mia's first black Donna
Posted: 12/10/13 at 10:47am
Who cares if she is a wheelchair bound little person... girl can SING!
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The Distinctive Baritone
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Mamma Mia's first black Donna
Posted: 12/10/13 at 05:05pm
Rashida Jones looks mixed. And hot.
blaxx
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Mamma Mia's first black Donna
Posted: 12/11/13 at 03:38am
Why is Sky 75 years old?
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SweetLips
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Mamma Mia's first black Donna
Posted: 12/11/13 at 04:08am
I want me some Sky---Some little corner of the Sky--Don't care if I don't understand a word he's saying.
darreyl102
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Mamma Mia's first black Donna
Posted: 12/11/13 at 06:22am
My Brother is 6'6 and his ex-Girlfriend is 5'6. their daughter is 5'2- so stranger things have happened.
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iluvtheatertrash
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Mamma Mia's first black Donna
Posted: 12/11/13 at 08:23am
Of course, they speak German in Austria. See what happens when you post without drinking coffee?

I think of color-blind casting more for situations like the recent STREETCAR revival. Or like ROMEO & JULIET. But it always irks me when families don't look anything like families.
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The Distinctive Baritone
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Posted: 12/11/13 at 08:53am
THAT'S RACIST! ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE IN GENETICS! YOU AND YOUR WHITE PRIVILEGE!!!
themysteriousgrowl
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Posted: 12/11/13 at 12:44pm

Gosh, you're a dipsh!t.
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The Distinctive Baritone
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Posted: 12/11/13 at 02:37pm
Excuse me? You're the kind of self-righteous pseudomoralist I was making fun of.

Updated On: 12/11/13 at 02:37 PM
themysteriousgrowl
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Posted: 12/11/13 at 02:43pm

Oh, I realize that, dipsh!t.
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Kad
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Posted: 12/11/13 at 03:02pm
Considering your biggest addition to this thread is that Rashida Jones "looks mixed. And hot.", perhaps you're not the best candidate to deride others.

Updated On: 12/11/13 at 03:02 PM
themysteriousgrowl
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Posted: 12/11/13 at 03:06pm

You're so sanctimonious, Kad.
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The Distinctive Baritone
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Posted: 12/11/13 at 08:26pm
I'm white and my wife is Latina. If my kid looks as lily white as me, I'll be very surprised. It's 10th grade biology folks: dominant genes and probability.

That said, I've been on this board for ten years and have had enough with the colorblind casting debates. Forgive me for trying to have a little fun.
darreyl102
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Posted: 12/11/13 at 10:06pm
But what you said isnít quite true. I can think of MANY biracial children who can easily pass for White that I know personally- why, Iím pretty light myself considering how dark my father is. LOL, and have played White on stage many a time.
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darreyl102
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Posted: 12/11/13 at 10:11pm
In fact, I have a couple of biracial kids that have Blonde hair and blue eyes in my own family.
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The Distinctive Baritone
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Posted: 12/12/13 at 12:24pm
I should have just kept my mouth shut.

BUT: yes, it can happen. I didn't say it can't. It's just UNLIKELY. And if we're dealing with realism, it generally makes more sense to have actors of the same race playing family members.

THAT SAID, it's Mama-friggin'-Mia, it's a silly musical, it's not realism, and if we can believe that their thoughts and feelings are best reflected by the lyrics to "Dancing Queen," then we can believe that a black Donna had a white biological daughter.

In regards to my comment about Rashida Jones: She's beautiful, as many mixed-raced people are. And casting shows realistically has nothing to do with being racist, so everyone just chill out and find another soap box to stand on. I'm done.

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