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Bible verses in Playbills?
#25Bible verses in Playbills?
Posted: 3/29/13 at 2:33pmHarvey Fierstein: 1 Corinthians 7:1-40 - Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
#26Bible verses in Playbills?
Posted: 3/29/13 at 2:36pmYou're right Drama, after all this isn's a religious based board so my comment may have been a bit inappropriate, I believe everyone has the right to manifest their faith as they please. On that note, I'll politely remove my post.
dramamama611
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/4/07
#27Bible verses in Playbills?
Posted: 3/29/13 at 3:02pm
I think of that every time someone flaunts their faith, and yes, I do feel it is flaunting. (Obviously I can only thing of the existence of that verse since I did not KNOW it.)
I have no issue with people that have strong faith -- I just don't want to hear about it.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
Updated On: 3/29/13 at 03:02 PM
#28Bible verses in Playbills?
Posted: 3/29/13 at 3:11pmI rather agree with you drama, that one's religion should be quiet and personal (like farts), but there are plenty who interpret certain New Testament verses as commands to get out there and proselytize for all they're worth.
#29Bible verses in Playbills?
Posted: 3/29/13 at 3:16pm
I don't think it's cool to be making fun of someone's faith.
And for those who do have a problem with it - it says a lot more about them than it does about the person who is not ashamed to express it. There is no need to be shamed for doing so.
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
#30Bible verses in Playbills?
Posted: 3/29/13 at 3:25pmEven when the book they are quoting tells them not to make a show of their faith?
#31Bible verses in Playbills?
Posted: 3/29/13 at 3:28pmI'm just saying that it's not cool for someone to make fun of someone else's faith or beliefs. That is all.
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
#32Bible verses in Playbills?
Posted: 3/29/13 at 3:29pmBut even though most of the comments in this thread have been in jest, do you really see anyone's faith being made fun of?
#33Bible verses in Playbills?
Posted: 3/29/13 at 3:30pm
That paragraph of Carlos' hypnotized me as I tried vainly to parse it (which I sincerely tried to do).
When you write "And for those who do have a problem with it," what does that "it" refer to? Making fun of someone's faith?
And when you next write "it says a lot more about them," what does that "it" refer to? And who is "them?" Those who make fun, or those who have a problem with making fun?
And when you write "than it does about the person who is not ashamed to express it," I confess that I'm really lost as to what that "it" refers to. (So many "its!")
And finally - "There is no need to be shamed for doing so." What does that "so" refer to? Doing precisely what? Expressing "it?" (Whatever "it" is...)
JohnyBroadway
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/10/12
#34Bible verses in Playbills?
Posted: 3/29/13 at 3:32pm
I think it's great when a performer gives thanks to their faith in the playbill. After all, it is their moment to shine!
Updated On: 3/29/13 at 03:32 PM
#35Bible verses in Playbills?
Posted: 3/29/13 at 3:38pm
But even though most of the comments in this thread have been in jest, do you really see anyone's faith being made fun of?
Yes, most of the comments. It's obvious some people on this board have a problem when someone chooses to express and show their faith and then put a negative spin on it and accuse them of "flaunting" their faith.
PatrickDennis92
Stand-by Joined: 9/25/12
#36Bible verses in Playbills?
Posted: 3/29/13 at 3:45pmI just want to chime in and say that, as a non religious person, I often become annoyed at one "flaunting" their faith... however, psychologically speaking, I can easily understand why they do it; and though I don't like it, I understand it. And though I don't respect the religion, I respect the person. People have faith for a variety of reasons outside their own control. I think it's important to consider the contributing factors as the cause, and the behavior/belief as the result of said influences. That has helped me coexist with the born again, and beyond.
#37Bible verses in Playbills?
Posted: 3/29/13 at 3:46pm
I don't see why you would feel the need to explain Carlos' statement, as I feel his message was completely clear.
Carlos, I completely agree with you, I don't feel ashamed of my faith, and I'm not by any means an overtly religious person either, I just thought it was wrong to make fun of bible verses today, of all days. I don't feel that is "Flaunting" either, as I feel I should have the same right of professing my faith, you have of mocking it.
#38Bible verses in Playbills?
Posted: 3/29/13 at 3:46pm
Sorry newintown, I didn't mean to "hypnotize" you. So I will make it clear. I admit I was a bit rushed in my response.
That paragraph of Carlos' hypnotized me as I tried vainly to parse it (which I sincerely tried to do).
When you write "And for those who do have a problem with it," what does that "it" refer to? Making fun of someone's faith?
The it I was referring to was FAITH.
And when you next write "it says a lot more about them," what does that "it" refer to? And who is "them?" Those who make fun, or those who have a problem with making fun?
The "it" I was referring to was the action of making fun of someone's faith.
"Them" are those who are making fun of it.
And when you write "than it does about the person who is not ashamed to express it," I confess that I'm really lost as to what that "it" refers to. (So many "its!")
The first "it" I was referring to was the negative action of making fun of someone else's faith.
The second "it" I was referring to was FAITH.
And finally - "There is no need to be shamed for doing so." What does that "so" refer to? Doing precisely what? Expressing "it?" (Whatever "it" is...)
What I meant to say is there is no need (for anyone) to be ashamed in expressing their faith.
Sorry for the confusion.
Updated On: 3/29/13 at 03:46 PM
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
dramamama611
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/4/07
#40Bible verses in Playbills?
Posted: 3/29/13 at 3:47pm
I said it was my opinion. I didn't make fun of anything. I didn't say they had no right to do so.
If they have the freedom to express it: I have the right to dislike it. You can't have it both ways. Just like those that use the bible as a reason to disapprove of homosexuality but don't follow every other statement that is written within the covers of the very same bible.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
#41Bible verses in Playbills?
Posted: 3/29/13 at 3:50pm
Much clearer. Thank you.
Although I do disagree; we need to have a sense of humor about everything in our lives, including our religion (or lack thereof).
Otherwise, we live in a constant state of being offended. And only a pathological person enjoys that state.
#43Bible verses in Playbills?
Posted: 3/29/13 at 4:02pm
I'm not offended at all. All I expressed was that I thought it was not cool. Offended. No. Surprised. Not even.
And dramamama I never said you made fun of anything. All I had an issue with was you labeling it as flaunting it.
There's a big difference when someone EXPRESSES their faith as opposed to forcing it down other people's throat.
I don't feel the need to force my beliefs or faith down other people's throat.
dramamama611
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/4/07
#44Bible verses in Playbills?
Posted: 3/29/13 at 4:10pm
And again, that insinuates that I don't have a right to my opinion.
I don't yell at people that do these things, I don't ask them to stop. I'm all about live and let live.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
#45Bible verses in Playbills?
Posted: 3/29/13 at 4:12pm
All I did was state that I didn't think it was cool to make fun of people's faith.
All I did was disagree with your opinion in very much the same way you have the right to disagree with mine.
I never asked you or anyone to stop. I never said you didn't have a right to your opinion. I never yelled at anyone to do things.
Updated On: 3/29/13 at 04:12 PM
#46Bible verses in Playbills?
Posted: 3/29/13 at 4:21pmWell any fun in this thread got ripped out.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
#47Bible verses in Playbills?
Posted: 3/29/13 at 4:26pm
And for those who do have a problem with it - it says a lot more about them than it does about the person who is not ashamed to express it. There is no need to be shamed for doing so.
Speaking strictly for myself, I'm ashamed that I spent half my life believing in such nonsense.
#48Bible verses in Playbills?
Posted: 3/29/13 at 4:28pm
Well I'm sorry I had to be the Debbie Downer of the thread. I'm not a religious person per se...I do have my faith and I am a very spiritual person.
I have never, ever forced my faith or my beliefs on anyone on this board ever. I have actually gone out of my way to ignore the many, many, many threads that have popped up over the years that took "joking" to the level of complete disrespect when it came to faith or to religion or spiritual beliefs.
I never, ever got involved.
I'm truly sorry I did this one time. It will not happen again.
Carry on.
#49Bible verses in Playbills?
Posted: 3/29/13 at 5:30pm
I don't consider having a Bible verse in their bio to be flaunting their faith. It's not that black and white, in my opinion - you're not either being completely silent about it or flaunting it. To me, flaunting it is standing in Times Square screaming about Jebus. Anyway, freedom of religion, freedom of expression, and all that good stuff. Actors have a right to to put what they want in their bios, and everyone here has a right to discuss it.
And now I'm going back to my knitting and undeserved self-righteousness. :)
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