What is the longest overture ever written?
What is the longest overture ever written?
TheGingerBreadMan
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/7/12
#1What is the longest overture ever written?
Posted: 2/24/13 at 10:40amI know there have been some pretty long overtures, but does anyone have an idea as to what the LONGEST is?
temms
Broadway Star Joined: 7/21/04
#2What is the longest overture ever written?
Posted: 2/24/13 at 11:21am
Do you include operas? If so, I'd guess "Flying Dutchman" which is 11 minutes (and thrilling) and is an overture of "tunes" from the show, not a standalone piece like "Marriage of Figaro" or "Barber of Seville".
Musicals, I feel like the original "Pal Joey" overture is the longest I can think of at right around five minutes, but I imagine other '30s shows also had lengthy overtures.
followspot
Broadway Star Joined: 12/27/11
#2What is the longest overture ever written?
Posted: 2/24/13 at 11:25am
Rodgers & Hammerstein always had some mighty hefty (read: wonderful) overtures — Carousel would surely be a contender, or possibly South Pacific or The King and I. The Ella/Louis Porgy & Bess recording has an overture that clocks in at just under 11 minutes, but I don't know if that has ever been used in performance.
"Tracy... Hold Mama's waffles."
Updated On: 2/24/13 at 11:25 AM
TheGingerBreadMan
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/7/12
#3What is the longest overture ever written?
Posted: 2/24/13 at 11:31amI believe GYPSY is also almost 5 minutes.
Sant
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/12/04
#4What is the longest overture ever written?
Posted: 2/24/13 at 11:41amSHOW BOAT's 1988 recording includes an overture that's 5:34 long.
joeybiltmore1
Leading Actor Joined: 2/22/05
#5What is the longest overture ever written?
Posted: 2/24/13 at 12:01pm
I imagine there are longer ones but a few that spring to mind:
LIL' ABNER and TAKE ME ALONG have overtures over 5 minutes long.
BELLS ARE RINGING has one that is nearly 6 minutes long.
The "golden age" shows had overtures that were generally (and usually gloriously) longer.
I'm not sure I would consider CAROUSEL's prologue an "overture"
theatreguy
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/31/03
#6What is the longest overture ever written?
Posted: 2/24/13 at 12:39pmSouth Pacific is the longest in my iTunes library. Closely followed by Bells are Ringing, Irene, Dear World and Allegro. Plus another 15 that are over 5 minutes long.
Finch
Stand-by Joined: 9/14/08
chewy5000
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/1/09
#9What is the longest overture ever written?
Posted: 2/24/13 at 10:33pmThe standard "original" licensed version of Cinderella had an overture, curtain music and then an extended instrumental Prologue. all three led into "The Prince is giving a Ball."
#10What is the longest overture ever written?
Posted: 2/25/13 at 2:26am
Operettas (DIE FLEDERMAUS, THE MERRY WIDOW) tended to have long overtures..FLEDERMAUS is usually around 8 1/2 minutes. Of course the Overtures became popular concert pieces and helped promote the shows.
Early musicals followed this format and Overtures tended to be over 5 minutes. Check out EMI's CD of Jerome Kern Overtures. They also have a disc of Gershwin Overtures and one of Porter Overtures and Ballet music - all conducted by John McGlinn. Many of these are in the 6 to 8 minute range.
Don't always go by cast albums...especially in the days when cast albums were recorded for release on 78-rpm records where a 10-inch side could hold about 3:30 of music. The OBCR's or OKLAHOMA!, FINIAN'S RAINBOW, and SOUTH PACIFIC are abridged. Columbia's album of KISS ME, KATE uses the Entr'acte instead of the show's actual Overture. 10 years later the original cast reunited to re-record the score in stereo for Capitol Records - and again used the Entr'acte to open the album. The actual Overture was included on a 1958 LP Lehman Engle made for Columbia called CURTAIN GOING UP which preserved the original Overtures from 10 shows: BLOOMER GIRL, ON THE TOWN, CALL ME MADAM, KISS ME KATE, GENTLEMEN PREFER BLONDES, BELLS ARE RINGING, WONDERFUL TOWN, FINIAN'S RAINBOW, CAN-CAN, & SILK STOCKINGS. These are all in the 5-6 minute range.
The CD version includes two extra overtures LI'L ABNER and GOLDILOCKS that were not on the previous LP editions.
"The Carousel Waltz" is NOT an overture. It is a waltz suite intended to underscore the opening scene. Rodgers later explained that for CAROUSEL the Overture was heard between the Acts (An Entr'acte) but as far as I am aware it has never been recorded.
CURTAIN GOING UP CD edition
Cast albums are NOT "soundtracks."
Live theatre does not use a "soundtrack." If it did, it wouldn't be live theatre!
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#11What is the longest overture ever written?
Posted: 2/25/13 at 7:47am
Of course the overture to Midsummer Night's Dream by Mendelssohn is 12 minutes long.
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Matt Rogers
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/4/04
#13What is the longest overture ever written?
Posted: 2/25/13 at 11:55am
"I believe GYPSY is also almost 5 minutes."
Five wonderful, glorious minutes.
A few months ago, my wife and I were listening to the OCR in the car, and I said, "Can you imagine what it must have been like to have been sitting in the theater shortly after Gypsy opened, not knowing the music, and hearing that overture?" Thrilling, I would imagine.
CZJ at opening night party for A Little Night Music, Dec 13, 2009.
#14What is the longest overture ever written?
Posted: 2/25/13 at 12:37pmThe King and I is 6:05 in my iTunes, from the Studio recording.
rorschach37
Broadway Star Joined: 4/3/10
#15What is the longest overture ever written?
Posted: 2/26/13 at 10:44amOklahoma and My Fair Lady have pretty long overtures.
