PHANTOM question

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Quiche2
#1PHANTOM question
Posted: 11/25/12 at 9:39pm

So what's up with the mask? Why does it look 1 way, covering both sides of the face in the logo, as seen in my avatar, but in the show it's a half-mask?


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Jay Lerner-Z
#2PHANTOM question
Posted: 11/25/12 at 9:44pm

They tried it with the double-sided mask onstage but found it constrained the actor, so switched. Early promotional material had already been printed, and they liked the two-sided mask, so they stuck with it.

Question answered. Nobody else need reply.


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winston89
#2PHANTOM question
Posted: 11/25/12 at 9:48pm

The reason for the half mask is as follows. They were originally going to give Crawford a full mask. However, he was having trouble singing with it, so they cut it in half. However, this was close to the start of previews and the adverts had already gone to print. So, they left the print ads as they were and only gave the actor playing phantom half a mask.


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Jay Lerner-Z
#3PHANTOM question
Posted: 11/25/12 at 9:51pm

Yes. What I just said.

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Quiche2
#4PHANTOM question
Posted: 11/26/12 at 7:36am

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Phyllis Rogers Stone
#5PHANTOM question
Posted: 11/26/12 at 9:10am

The other ladies are wrong. Originally there was going to be a mask that covered the entire Phantom's face, but it gave the actor problems singing, so they changed it. But the ads were already ready at the time, so they left them with the full mask, which they seemed to prefer for promotional purposes.

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tazber
#6PHANTOM question
Posted: 11/26/12 at 11:59am

From what I understand, and I forget where I read it, they wanted to use the whole mask but it constrained Crawford's singing.

Since the print advertising had already been finalized though they decided to leave it as the logo.


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Updated On: 11/26/12 at 11:59 AM

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Wynbish
#7PHANTOM question
Posted: 11/26/12 at 12:02pm

Well, kinda. Except that you forgot the part where the whole mask was just not working on Crawford's singing-voice-emitting face.

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CATSNYrevival
#8PHANTOM question
Posted: 11/26/12 at 12:47pm

Hal Prince talks about this on the DVD extras for the movie and he never says that a full mask was ever seen on stage. He does say that the ad was created first, but that he was very concerned about Michael Crawford being able to emote or show any emotion at all with such a constricting mask, and so the decision was made to keep it as a half mask, but do it vertical instead of horizontal. Crawford then asked that the mask be switched from his left side to the right side and that is the mask we see today. There's never any mention of it being difficult to sing with. That issue is mentioned in the documentary, but it was in regard to the make-up, the putty around Michael's lip, and his inability to enunciate properly. It had nothing to do with the mask or not being able to sing with it.

Updated On: 11/26/12 at 12:47 PM

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Wynbish
#9PHANTOM question
Posted: 11/26/12 at 12:51pm

New answer!

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TimesSquared
#10PHANTOM question
Posted: 11/26/12 at 12:54pm

I heard a different explanation.

Crawford was hired to play the Phantom, but at that point, the actor only had a half face. They tried giving him a full mask, but it wouldn't stay on, since there was no left side of his head to support the mask. In early previews, they tried using a half mask on his half head, but it looked "decidedly odd" in Hal Prince's opinion, especially when Crawford was seen in left profile. Prince credits Maria Bjornson with the ingenious solution: they built a prosthetic left side for Crawford's head. The final prosthetic was so much more handsome and expressive than Crawford's right face, that they decided not to cover it with the full mask.

Alas, by that point, the producers feared that using a half-mask to advertise the show would be perceived as a cruel dig at Crawford's deformity and at the half-faced community at large. The rest is musical theatre history.

End of story. Fin. No one else need reply.

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Justin D
#11PHANTOM question
Posted: 11/26/12 at 4:57pm

lol, but to be honest, they did use a full mask on Colm Wilkinson when he did the first workshop


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Quiche2
#12PHANTOM question
Posted: 11/26/12 at 5:55pm

^^

lol, but to be honest, other posters said they switched it close to previews, which is after workshops


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Jay Lerner-Z
#13PHANTOM question
Posted: 11/26/12 at 5:58pm

I loathe you.


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Quiche2
#14PHANTOM question
Posted: 11/26/12 at 6:12pm

Right back atcha.

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gstrus2
#15PHANTOM question
Posted: 11/26/12 at 6:53pm

Phantom Question: Where is the best place to sit for your first time seeing the show? Was thinking front row mezzanine, but would love all your input.

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Jay Lerner-Z
#16PHANTOM question
Posted: 11/26/12 at 7:16pm

Quiche has seen it numerous times, and indeed will be seeeing it again shortly with his beloved Grandpappy, so he is probably the best person to answer.

Front row mezzanine sounds fine to me, though.


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Wynbish
#17PHANTOM question
Posted: 11/26/12 at 7:21pm

Love the loathing

I feel bad for Quiche's brother, though. What does he do with the Grandpappy? Favoritism!

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Quiche2
#18PHANTOM question
Posted: 11/26/12 at 7:24pm

^^
He takes the bus from Grandpappy's house each morning, that's what. His school doesn't have a bus stop is our neighborhood, but my Grandpappy's does. My Grandpappy's neighborhood is on the way to where my mom works, so she drops him off there every morning.


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Wynbish
#19PHANTOM question
Posted: 11/26/12 at 7:26pm

So you get a NYC trip and he gets a bus stop? Damn

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Quiche2
#20PHANTOM question
Posted: 11/26/12 at 7:28pm

Yep.


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Wynbish
#21PHANTOM question
Posted: 11/26/12 at 7:40pm

Maybe he can go this year since you're on your own now

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Quiche2
#22PHANTOM question
Posted: 11/26/12 at 7:43pm

Just on my own from my mom, I still visit my Grandfather almost every day like I usually do. He lives literally 8 mins. (yea, I timed it) from my school, so I stop by almost every day after school.


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Wynbish
#23PHANTOM question
Posted: 11/26/12 at 7:45pm

I love this. This is like Maury.

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Jay Lerner-Z
#24PHANTOM question
Posted: 11/26/12 at 8:42pm

Today, on Maury...

"I Moved In With Sugar Daddy After Mom Kicked Me Out Over Broadway Obsession...Oh Wait, That Didn't Happen Because I Don't Exist"

Check local listings.


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