Barack Obama campaign lies and flip-flops

mikey2573
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"started posting youtube clips unrelated to the question."

Uhhh, my YouTube clips and other posts are all related to the topic of this thread. The question posed was not. If someone wants to start a thread with a different topic, they are free to do so.
ErikJ972
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joined:5/26/03
I warned him it would require critical thinking.
Kad
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joined:11/5/05
Got it. So unless the question is related to Obama's lies and flip-flops, it will be ignored because it's off-topic.

AKA: "give me a question I have an answer for"
mikey2573
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joined:12/28/10
According to President Obama's own statements, he should be a one-termer!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCN5-ovvFL0
mikey2573
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joined:12/28/10
"Yes but why are you on a Theater message board"

This is NOT a theater message board.
TheatreDiva90016
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How a web site called BROADWAY WORLD and is not about theatre is beyond me.

But then again, look who's saying that.

Are your students off for the summer? Is that why you have so much time to troll? How is Xenia?
"TheatreDiva90016 - another good reason to frequent these boards less."<<>> “I hesitate to give this line of discussion the validation it so desperately craves by perpetuating it, but the light from logic is getting further and further away with your every successive post.” <<>> -whatever2
Kad
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joined:11/5/05
This is a subforum on a theatre board. Most things you post are political. Why not go to a political board with others who share your views?

Oh wait, then you wouldn't be a troll anymore.
mikey2573
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joined:12/28/10
"How a web site called BROADWAY WORLD and is not about theatre is beyond me."

Here, I'll do my best to EXPLAIN it to you, TheatreDiva. You see, Broadway World is indeed a THEATER website. BUT, this message board is the OFF TOPIC board. That means that this board is for NON theater related discussions or anything OFF the TOPIC of THEATER. See how that works??
Now, here's a cookie. Oh, and try to stay away from those JOKEY news websites cuz they can be real confusing, those stories seem to be so real.
TheatreDiva90016
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joined:4/10/04
That's not the answer I asked for.



idjit.
"TheatreDiva90016 - another good reason to frequent these boards less."<<>> “I hesitate to give this line of discussion the validation it so desperately craves by perpetuating it, but the light from logic is getting further and further away with your every successive post.” <<>> -whatever2
ErikJ972
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joined:5/26/03
How come you can answer other questions but not how Romney's economic plan is different than George W's?
mikey2573
Broadway Star
joined:12/28/10
There is a very subtle lie in Obama's latest ad about his economic plan:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70tav9QveOM&feature=plcp

Can you find it? It is a lie that the president uses every time he talks about his tax hikes for the rich. Here it is:
"And it's paid for by asking the wealthiest Americans to pay a little bit more."

This is something President Obama says all the time. In fact, he used it in his last State of the Union address; “You can call this class warfare all you want, But asking a billionaire to pay at least as much as his secretary in taxes? Most Americans would call that common sense.”

The lie, of course, is the use of the word "asking". The federal government does not "ask" people to pay the unconstitutional tax rates. You are compelled to pay these tax rates at the tip of the government sword. What happens if you don't pay? You go to jail. That is not "asking" people to pay a higher tax, it is using the force of law to make DAMN sure they pay.
Of course, Obama's plan to put teachers, firefighters, police and construction workers back to work could simply be called "Stimulus Part 2", you know, because "Stimulus Part 1" was such a HUGE success!! LOL!
mikey2573
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joined:12/28/10
Not Pres. Obama caught in a lie, but MSNBC caught editing a video tape of Mitt Romney. Andrea Mitchell introduces the clip by calling it Romney's "supermarket scanner" moment. She is referencing a false story about Pres. George H.W. Bush's "amazement" at seeing a supermarket scanner, a story made up by the NY TImes back in the 90s. So she is framing this FALSE and DISHONEST video clip with a FALSE and DISHONEST story from the past.
Anyway, this is in reference to Romney's "Wawa" speech. Apparently Wawa is a store that Romney visited where you could order a sandwich using a touch screen. Mitchell and NBC News edited the video to make it look as if Romney's point was how AMAZED he was at this innovation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvJPG6KURV8

BUT, when you see the ENTIRE speech, UNEDITED, you see that Romney's point, about the innovations in the private sector vs the lack of innovation in the public sector, was COMPLETELY CHANGED due to the creative editing done by the hacks at NBC News.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zTrmwDmOjy4

They did the same thing with the Zimmerman 911 tape, editing it to make him sound like a racist.
Now, NBC News gets BUSTED again!!

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/some-never-learn-msnbc-caught-selectively-editing-romney-video-to-make-him-seem-out-of-touch/
mikey2573
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Uh-oh!! Is it possible that today President Barack Obama entered Richard Nixon territory? Today, Pres. Obama granted Executive Privilege to Att. Gen. Eric Holder, in his efforts to keep documents related to the death of border agent Brian Terry (aka Fast and Furious) from the public view, and more specifically Congress.
This is the first time a President has used Executive Privilege to keep info. from Congress in about 40 years ago, since Richard Nixon used it back in the days of a little thing called WATERGATE.
WHAT are these people trying to hide from us?
And, don't forget this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXWTdTnhebs

"I won't stop fighting to OPEN UP GOVERNMENT. "
----Barack Obama
Jordan Catalano
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"I'm finished! Wipe me!"
---George W. Bush
ErikJ972
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joined:5/26/03
Even after a crappy June for the President! People really do just hate Mitt that much!
Obama widens lead in new poll; Romney seen as "out of touch".
romantico
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'There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently' -Robert Evans-
mikey2573
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Some of the president's most ardent entertainment industry supporters tell The Hollywood Reporter they are concerned that his increasing reliance on stars and celebrity contests could backfire.

Barack Obama's recent barrage of Hollywood campaign fund-raisers is drawing backlash from an unlikely place: Hollywood.

Some of the president's most ardent entertainment industry supporters quietly tell The Hollywood Reporter that while they realize he needs to deploy all of his weapons to compete with deep-pocketed Republican super PACs, they fear the increasing reliance on stars and celebrity contests could backfire with swing voters and mobilize the right.

Reaction was particularly strong to the $40,000-a-plate dinner co-hosted June 14 by Sarah Jessica Parker and Vogue editor Anna Wintour with guests including Meryl Streep, Aretha Franklin and Bravo's Andy Cohen. Critics say the tony, heavily promoted event­ -- Parker sent an e-mail to supporters promising the evening would be "fabulous," and Wintour posted a video online urging supporters to enter a lottery for two tickets -- risked creating the impression of an elitist, out-of-touch candidate in a period of ongoing distress and growing economic inequality.
"It's a mistake," a veteran Hollywood exec says flatly of the event, which the Drudge Report headlined "Checks in the City." The exec adds: "He's supposed to be a man of the people, and he's hanging out with Anna Wintour? Is he trying to turn the election into a celebrity reality show?"

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/President-barack-obama-hollywood-campaign-339410
jasonf
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joined:12/26/03
Where do you get your information from???

You said: "This is the first time a President has used Executive Privilege to keep info. from Congress in about 40 years ago, since Richard Nixon used it back in the days of a little thing called WATERGATE."

That's BLATANTLY false as a simple google search showed.
Way to go, Mikey.
Keep your crap to yourself.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/whitehouse/what-is-executive-privilege-a-look-at-presidents-authority-to-keep-secrets-from-congress/2012/06/21/gJQAXro3rV_story.html
Hi, Shirley Temple Pudding.
Jordan Catalano
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I KNOW you're not expecting a response from the troll, are you?
jasonf
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joined:12/26/03
Sigh. No. If only political discourse could be evenly balanced.
If only.
Hi, Shirley Temple Pudding.
Playbilly
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Jordan , Jason....these nuts like Mikey try to pretend the Bush/Cheney years didn't exist and that they were not, in effect, war criminals. It's kinda fun to listen to them, but then you realize they are not tucked away in St. Ann's sanitarium. They are among us.
"Through The Sacrifice You Made, We Can't Believe The Price You Paid..For Love!"
jasonf
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joined:12/26/03
Do you think it's that they pretend those years didn't exist, or do they genuinely thing that he was GOOD for this country? That they believe Bush left the country in a better place than when he got it?

It just blows my mind how many people disregard, ignore, or twist what the right does to such an extent that they can actually BELIEVE it. I mean, Mikey's post that I commented on is the perfect example. Fox News said "no president has used executive privilege since Nixon" so they believe it. Never mind the TRUTH, or bothering to seek out the truth, they just believe it. It's truly frightening.
Hi, Shirley Temple Pudding.
mikey2573
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David Maraniss has written a new biography of President Obama. Problem is, it turns out that his research contradicts much of what Obama wrote about in "Dreams From My Father". Which brings Investors Business Daily to ask "Is President Obama a Pathological Liar?"
The Obama Record: The most frightening aspect of this president may not be his radical ideology but his rank dishonesty in selling that ideology. Now he's been caught lying about family racism.

In "Dreams from My Father," his 1995 memoir, Obama used the story of his paternal grandfather's imprisonment and torture at the hands of British colonists in Kenya as an example of white cruelty. He claimed Hussein Onyango Obama was unjustly detained for six months before being released a crippled, lice-ridden "old man."

In fact, none of it is true, according to Washington Post editor and biographer David Maraniss, who traveled to Kenya to investigate the tale. His grandfather was not detained or beaten by his "white rulers," as Obama, writing as a 34-year-old lawyer, claimed.

This is only the latest example of a growing body of fabrications, embellishments and outright lies told by this president, who has a real and possibly pathological problem with the truth.

Stacked up, his whoppers would make even Bill Clinton blush. Here's a sampling:

Lie No. 1: Obama has repeatedly claimed his white grandfather, Stanley Dunham, "fought in Patton's army," when he was a clerk with no combat in WWII.

Lie No. 2: Obama claimed Dunham, a communist sympathizer, signed up for duty "the day after Pearl Harbor," when in fact he waited six months.

Lie No. 3: Obama claimed his father "fought when he got back to Kenya against tribalism and nepotism, but ultimately was blackballed from the government," when in fact he fought against capitalism and lost his job when he advocated communism.

Lie No. 4: Obama has claimed his late mother's health insurer refused "to pay for her treatment" for cancer while citing a "pre-existing condition," when Cigna paid all her hospital bills and never denied payment.

Lie No. 5: Obama claimed he and a black high school friend named "Ray" were ostracized in Honolulu, when in fact the friend, Keith Kakugawa, was half-Japanese, and neither of them experienced discrimination.

Lie No. 6: Obama claimed the father of his Indonesian stepfather was killed by Dutch soldiers while fighting for Indonesian independence, when in fact the story turns out to be "a concocted myth in almost all respects," Maraniss found.

Lie No. 7: Obama claimed his parents decided to marry in the excitement of the Selma civil-rights march of 1965 — and that he personally has "a claim on Selma" — when in fact they were married several years earlier.

Lie No. 8: Obama claimed his father got to study in the U.S. thanks to JFK's efforts to bring "young Africans over to America," when in fact the Kenyan airlift his father participated in occurred in 1959 under Ike.

Lie No. 9: Obama submitted a phony bio to his book publicist claiming he was "born in Kenya."

Lie No. 10: Obama denied being a member of the socialist New Party, when a member roster of the Chicago chapter of the party lists him joining on Jan. 11, 1996.

Lie No. 11: Obama claimed he had only a passing acquaintance with Weather Underground terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, when in fact they held a fundraiser for their Hyde Park neighbor in their living room, and years later, while Obama served in the U.S. Senate, hosted a barbecue for him in their backyard.

Lie No. 12: Obama claimed he never heard Rev. Jeremiah Wright spew anti-American invectives while sitting in his pews for 20 years, when in fact Obama was moved to tears hearing Wright condemn "white folks" and the U.S. for bombing other countries and even named his second book after the sermon.

Lie No. 13: Obama claimed he got in a "big fight" with old white flame Genevieve Cook, who after seeing a black play asked "why black people were so angry all the time," when in fact she never saw the play nor made the remark.

In both his autobiographies, Obama paints a false portrait of a still-racist America and West, where he, his friends and relatives are victimized by that racism. Conveniently, his remedy is redistributive justice through bigger government.

I wonder why we didn't know any of this 4 years ago. Perhaps if Obama had been former governor of Alaska the press might have been more interested in his story. Who knows, they may have even been tempted to dumpster dive to find some info. on him.
mikey2573
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Uh-oh!! I m going on vacation with my kids today and will be gone for a week. Will I have internet access where we are going? Not sure! And this week promises to be BIG for Obama, with the possibility of his signature pieces of legislation being deemed unconstitutional. Of course, w ealready KNOW it is, but this SCOTUS has some judges who have comprehension issues.
Anyway, I may still be able to post. so never fear!
TheatreDiva90016
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Anyone with sex organs can have kids.

Yours probably throw trash in the 9/11 memorial...
"TheatreDiva90016 - another good reason to frequent these boards less."<<>> “I hesitate to give this line of discussion the validation it so desperately craves by perpetuating it, but the light from logic is getting further and further away with your every successive post.” <<>> -whatever2
Reginald Tresilian
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