How is it racist?

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tazber
#50How is it racist?
Posted: 2/29/12 at 7:01pm

Of course racism exists. But Meryl's win probably had nothing to do with the Academy not wanting to honor an African American.

I mean, I think that Octavia Spencer would agree with that assessment.




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Almira
#51How is it racist?
Posted: 2/29/12 at 7:07pm

"I'm white, straight, and male."

Who wants us to believe he daydreams about being a black lesbian so he can feel better about himself.

That is some seriously funny sh*t.


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Jordan Catalano
#52How is it racist?
Posted: 2/29/12 at 7:18pm

Meryl should turn her Oscar over to the NAACP and askfor the American people's forgiveness ASAP. Even her accepting it proves she believes slavery should be brought back.

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henrikegerman
#53How is it racist?
Posted: 2/29/12 at 7:35pm

Newintown, I'm not the one who injected equal opportunity in the discussion, you did, when you responded to blactor's complaint that there aren't enough quality roles for black actors with the claim of a false equivalency that there aren't enough quality roles for anyone.

So which is it? First, you argue that there is this level playing field because there aren't enough quality roles for anyone.

Then you do a 180 and excuse the lack of a level playing field because entertainment's free market status exempts it from offering equal opportunities.

You can't have it both ways.

Updated On: 2/29/12 at 07:35 PM

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tazber
#54How is it racist?
Posted: 2/29/12 at 7:37pm

It's been common knowledge that Meryl is a racist ever since Out Of Africa beat The Color Purple.


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Gaveston2
#55How is it racist?
Posted: 2/29/12 at 7:39pm

Of course racism exists. But Meryl's win probably had nothing to do with the Academy not wanting to honor an African American.

I mean, I think that Octavia Spencer would agree with that assessment.


It IS an odd year to accuse Academy voters of racism, IMO. I think most of us agree that Viola Davis is brilliant. Jesus, she managed to walk away with DOUBT even though Streep was the star and Davis only had two scenes. I trust her Oscar day will come.

But when I think of THE HELP, it is Spencer's performance that stands out most in my mind.

And while two actors from the same film have occasionally both won, I think it's far more common for voters to spread the wealth around a little.

None of this is to say racism has disappeared from Hollywood, no more than from America.

Musicaldudepeter
#56How is it racist?
Posted: 2/29/12 at 7:48pm

Agree with above poster. Spencer's win was a win for all. Davis's role wasn't strong enough and I don't know why she was put in the leading category - it's clearly a supporting role. Davis is the next Meryl Streep in my opinion and of course she will win an Oscar in the future if not a handful of them. And totally agree re Doubt, that was the definition of a scene stealing performance, Davis was incredible.

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#57How is it racist?
Posted: 2/29/12 at 7:50pm

I'm asking this sincerely: Has there really been an outcry of "racism" regarding Streep's win? I read a bunch of stuff in the days following the Oscars, and I've only come across this claim in the OP's post and the link to Workers.com (whatever that is).

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Idiot
#58How is it racist?
Posted: 2/29/12 at 7:53pm

There are people who think printer paper is racist because it primarily comes in white. What're ya gonna do?

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Almira
#59Where is the actual noise?
Posted: 2/29/12 at 7:54pm

The better leading actress won. If Davis was a white woman, there would be no noise made about this.


I'm still trying to figure out where all the so-called "noise" is.

Outside of the knee-jerk "I'm-so-appalled" tone to the original post and the equally ridiculously emotionally charged responses, I ask: Where is the actually noise?

Has this debate been on the 24 hour Entertainment news cycle? Granted I don't watch it much so it could be, but something tells me this is much ado about nothing.




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Updated On: 2/29/12 at 07:54 PM

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Reginald Tresilian
#60Where is the actual noise?
Posted: 2/29/12 at 7:58pm

"There are people who think printer paper is racist because it primarily comes in white."

Name two. Hell, name one.

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#61Where is the actual noise?
Posted: 2/29/12 at 8:04pm

Dearest Reginald,

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Jay Lerner-Z
#62Where is the actual noise?
Posted: 2/29/12 at 8:07pm

I once heard someone say that in actual fact there has never been a black winner of Best Actress, Halle Berry not counting because her mother was white. People have some crazy notions sometimes.


Beyoncé is not an ally. Actions speak louder than words, Mrs. Carter. #Dubai #$$$

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Reginald Tresilian
#63Where is the actual noise?
Posted: 2/29/12 at 8:07pm

Sorry. I didn't realize it was Live Up to Your Profile Name Day on BWW.

Carry on.

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PalJoey
#64Where is the actual noise?
Posted: 2/29/12 at 8:08pm

OP stated a false premise and proceeded to argue against it. Bad debating skills. Everyone else just took the bait...because it's fun for us to feed trolls around here. (At least, for a little while.)

Yes, racism exists. And so does misogyny. And so does antisemitism. And so does homophobia. And so does Islamophobia. And so, I suppose, does Christo-phobia or whatever those people who think they're protecting Christmas like to call it. They all exist.

And none of them has anything whatsoever to do with how the Oscars are voted on.

Nothing whatsoever.


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Idiot
#66Where is the actual noise?
Posted: 2/29/12 at 8:11pm

Well. Reginald, that would certainly explain why you're being such a prissy, effete prick.

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PalJoey
#67Where is the actual noise?
Posted: 2/29/12 at 8:13pm

And, by the way, Meryl's foundation--the Silver Mountain Foundation for the Arts--donated $10,000 each to two of Viola Davis's favorite charities: Upward Bound and the Segue Institute for Learning.

Because that's what you do when you're Meryl F*CKing Streep.
Meryl Streep makes donations to Viola Davis' charities


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Jordan Catalano
#68Where is the actual noise?
Posted: 2/29/12 at 8:13pm

The very definition of white guilt.

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The Distinctive Baritone
#69Where is the actual noise?
Posted: 2/29/12 at 8:15pm

Well said, PalJoey.

I'd like to apologize for my "black lesbian" remark, as obviously that upset some people and I didn't mean to cause such offense. I am sorry for my crudeness.

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Reginald Tresilian
#70Where is the actual noise?
Posted: 2/29/12 at 8:16pm

I see what you're aiming for, Idiot, but the words "reginald" and "tresilian" don't actually mean anything. (Well, they might, but I doubt any of us know what.)

Whereas "idiot" kind of speaks for itself.

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#71Where is the actual noise?
Posted: 2/29/12 at 8:21pm

...and then the volley died due to a profound lack of wit.

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Reginald Tresilian
#72Where is the actual noise?
Posted: 2/29/12 at 8:22pm

I couldn't agree more.

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Jay Lerner-Z
#73Where is the actual noise?
Posted: 2/29/12 at 8:24pm

How 'bout them Knicks, huh?


Beyoncé is not an ally. Actions speak louder than words, Mrs. Carter. #Dubai #$$$

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Jordan Catalano
#74Where is the actual noise?
Posted: 2/29/12 at 8:24pm

Aren't they owned by a white man?

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PalJoey
#75Where is the actual noise?
Posted: 2/29/12 at 8:25pm

Hey, Idiot--are you as much of an idiot in real life or do you just come to BroadwayWorld to be an idiot.

I'd like to believe you were actually an intelligent human being, but since you've never exhibited a single intelligent syllable in the 1 year, 4 months and 20 days you've been posting here, I'll just take you at your word.

You're an idiot, Idiot.