'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!' (Revisited)
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-18 14:49:39.0

A thread devoted to those wonderful musicals we call flops that appear on our stages for a brief moment but are always with us because some clever person got them into the recording studio!
A big 'thanks' to all of them!
"Oh Dear! What A Carrie' On' comes from the late theatre critic Jack Tinker. After seeing the opening night of 'Carrie-The Musical' in Stratford this was the wonderful headline to his review the following day! I know 'Carrie' isnt on CD but i also know that there are thousands of CDs of it out there if you know where to look!


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Posted by songanddanceman2 2008-02-18 14:53:41.0

*hides his 7 versions of Carrie the musical CDs and DVDs*


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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-18 15:03:24.0

'SOMEONE LIKE YOU'
By and Staring Petula Clark
Strand Theatre, now The Novello
March 22nd 1994 for far too long! (87 perfs)

Someone should have told poor Pet that the UK theatre going audience had no
interested in the American civil war.
The amazing thing is it took 13 years for the CD to be released.






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Posted by songanddanceman2 2008-02-18 15:08:34.0

Oh i have heard some of the songs from this, thought it was a bit dull


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Posted by Jonwo 2008-02-19 09:38:34.0

This is a great thread looking at all these flops, I alway wonder why producers choose to go for such awful projects. Field of Ambrosia would be one I would want to see just for the hilarity factor.

Slightly off-topic but wasn't there a msuical called Mr and Mrs which was based on Brief Encounter?


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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-19 11:10:23.0

'MR AND MRS'
Palace Theatre London
Opened Dec 11th 1968
Closed Jan 18th 1969 5 weeks
John Neville, Honor Blackman and Hylda Baker
Ran for just 44 perfs
*not on CD but i paid £35 for the LP a few years ago.








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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-19 11:34:04.0

'MADDIE'
Lyric Theatre London
Opened 29th Sept 1997
Closed 11th Nov 1997 5 weeks
Ran for 41 perfs.

Dreadful production that should never have been given a West End home. Had the wonderful Lynda Baron (the nurse in Open All Hours) as its saving grace. I saw it with an audience of just 19!
London Cast Recording only.


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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-19 12:10:58.0

'70, GIRLS 70'
Vaudeville Theatre, London
Opened 13th June 1991
Closed 21st Sept 1991 13 weeks
Ran for 87 perfs.

One of Kander and Ebbs least successful musicals running longer in London than its Broadway version (67 perfs)
A Cast Recording was made of both US and UK productions







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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-19 12:17:18.0

'PERSONALS'
Apollo Theatre, London
Opened 14th June 2000
Closed 29th July 2000 6 weeks
Ran for 6 weeks.

Some great numbers in this great little show.
London Cast Recording only.


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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-19 12:25:29.0

'IM GETTING MY ACT TOGETHER AND TAKING IT ON THE ROAD'
Apollo Theatre, London
Opened 31st March 1981
Closed 23rd May 1981 7 weeks
Ran for 53 perfs.

Vehicle for Diane Langton that produced one number that crops up now and again -'Old Friend'
80mins! No interval! and i still fell asleep.

London West End and Off Broadway Cast Recordings


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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-19 12:30:55.0

'PIPPIN' ran on Broadway for over 5 years and produced an album that must be owned by every musical theatre lover.
.....but when it arrived in London it only managed a brief run of 85 performances at Her Majestys from Oct 30th 1973.


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Posted by Jonwo 2008-02-19 12:37:44.0

thanks for the info on Mr and Mrs, I remember reading ages ago that ALW wanted to do a musical version of Brief Encounter which I think wouldn't be a bad idea as it's such a good story.


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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-19 12:39:07.0

'FLOWERS FOR ALGERNON"
Queens Theatre, London
Opened 14th June 1979
Closed 15th July 1979 4 weeks
Ran for 29 perfs.

Before Michael Crawford had a rat run over his shoulder in 'The Woman In White' he was doing the same with a mouse 26 years earlier!

London Cast Recording made.



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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-19 12:41:36.0

Noel Coward hated the comedienne/ actress Hylda Baker who was just 4' 5' and hell to work with and remarked 'i would like to break that bloody womans neck-if i could find it'
Now London has a fabulous new version of 'Brief Encounter' at the Cinema Haymarket that has music written for it. Lloyd Webber would have ruined it.


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Posted by devonian.t 2008-02-19 13:13:50.0

Isn't that 70 Girls 70 logo a bit of a cheat- that wasn't the London logo was it?

I saw the show- I love the song Emma Finch- better than Coffee in a Cardboard Cup, which has tended to survive the show more.

Incidentally, the show featured one of my favourite Vaudeville jokes: the nun and the blind man..


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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-19 13:18:08.0

lol. I couldnt download the London CD cover!


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Posted by devonian.t 2008-02-19 13:24:35.0

Don't forget 'Out of the Blue' at the Shaftesbury- and probably one of the founding fathers of the legend of the Shaftesbury curse!

17 performances from 4 November 1994.

Yes I have the flyer, but needless to say, can't upload it. Wicked, could you oblige, old bean?


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Posted by devonian.t 2008-02-19 13:26:55.0

And don't forget the glorious 7 weeks of 'The Hunting of the Snark'- one of the most unfairly savaged shows of the last 20 years.

And here's Jae Alexander- just for Wicked!


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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-19 13:28:01.0

My school mate! He Fiddles for the last time this week.


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Posted by devonian.t 2008-02-19 13:29:34.0

And the flying boat...


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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-19 13:36:11.0

'THE GOOD OLD BAD OLD DAYS'
Prince Of Wales Theatre, London
Opened 20th Dec 1972
Closed 12th June 1973
Ran for 309 perf.

Maybe not a flop but always played to empty houses and Anthony Newley, the shows star and composer, just kept putting money into it.

London cast Recording.


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Posted by devonian.t 2008-02-19 13:39:53.0

Murderous Instincts

So bad it was bad.

SAVOY THEATRE
Opened Oct 7th 2004
Closed Oct 16th
17 perfs


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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-19 13:40:49.0

No CD tho!



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Posted by songanddanceman2 2008-02-19 13:41:56.0

Oh wicked you are a little star as always

I actually have some great dvd footage of 70 girls 70 but from its ill fated Broadway run, i actually thought it was pretty good, doesn't it get a lot of amateur groups doing it??

I saw Personals, it was a fun little show but didnt really do anything, a few nice songs and a few funny moments but it didnt feel like a West End show.


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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-19 13:46:23.0

'THE BAKERS WIFE'
Phoenix Theatre, London.
Opened 27th Nov 1989
Closed 6th Jan 1990 6 weeks
Ran for 64 perfs.

The show that gave us 'Meadowlark' Has flopped whenever its been staged.

US Cast Recording with Patti LuPone and Original London Cast CDs available.


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Posted by devonian.t 2008-02-19 13:51:33.0

I loved this show, and the CD is still a regular listen- though Mrs Nunn is perhaps not its greatest asset!


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Posted by tommyslim 2008-02-19 22:28:11.0

see i quite like the bakers wife too lol


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Posted by Jonwo 2008-02-20 06:38:40.0

It does seems that Stephen Schwartz shows do seem to less well over here than in America. Only Wicked has been his only success over here though i think he's a good composer/lyricist as evident in films such as Pocahontas, Hunchback, Prince of Eypght and Enchanted.

I ws flicking through my CD collection and I found a CD of the musical Boyband which my sister and I saw years ago. It was at the Gielgud though I can't remember how long it ran.


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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-20 07:09:20.0

'WINDY CITY'
Victoria Palace Theatre, London
Opened 20th July 1982
Closed 26th Jan 1983 5 months
Ran for 250 perfs.

The West end musical debut of Denis Waterman in a show based on the famous Hollywood movie 'The Front Page' I still enjoy listening to this score.

London Cast Recording available and Denis Waterman released a single in the charts that went to number 21- 'Water Under The Bridge'


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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-20 07:19:15.0

'ANDY CAPP'
Aldwych Theatre, London
Opened 29th Sep 1982
Closed 22nd Jan 1983
Ran for 99 perfs.

A transfer from the Royal Exchange in Manchester that had a great cast include top classical actor Tom Courtney in his first and only West End musical.

I recently payed £25 for the LP.



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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-20 07:28:07.0

"GENTLEMEN PREFER BLONDES'
Strand Theatre, London.
Opened 14th April 1962
Closed 18th Aug 1962
Ran for just 177 perfs

Despite the movie being a major Hollywood classsic it has never been successful on stage, even on Broadway with Carol Channing.
Interestingly, Dora Bryan also played another Carol Channing role when 'Hello Dolly' first played London at the Theatre Royal Drury Lane

Another LP i paid a lot of money for (£25)



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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-20 08:14:01.0

'SHERLOCK HOLMES -THE MUSICAL'
Cambridge theatre, London
Opened 23rd april 1989
Closed 8th July 1989
Ran for 98 perf

Yet another major disaster that attracted the the talents of a great actor, Ron Moody. Mr Moody had experience with Dickens before with his much praised portrayal of Fagin in the 70s and 80s.
Ive now got one of the shows annoying numbers in me 'ed -'Down The Apples And Pears' AAAGH

London Cast Recording.


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Posted by songanddanceman2 2008-02-20 08:21:06.0

urgh i saw a touring production in america of Gentleman Prefer Blondes and thought it was horrible, such a shame since i LOVE the film


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Posted by devonian.t 2008-02-20 08:26:50.0

I worked on Sherlock Holmes. To say it was hell would be an understatement!


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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-20 08:28:58.0

'THE HIRED MAN'
Astoria Theatre, London.
Opened 31st Oct 1984
Closed 17th Jan 1985
Ran for 164 perfs

A stunning production of a heart wrenching story with fantastic music by Howard Goodall. Opened to fantastic reviews, produced by Andrew Lloyd Webber but just didnt get an audience. I know of 4 performances that were cancelled at 1 hrs notice because they hadnt sold 1 seat in the 1400 seat Astoria!

Astoria production released on LP only. One night concert from the Palace Theatre available on CD




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Posted by songanddanceman2 2008-02-20 08:41:03.0

Beautiful and The Damned
Lyric Theatre
Opened - May 10th 2004
Closed - 14th august 2004

A truly mind numbingly dull night at the the theatre, the only saving grace was the set, costume and lighting design but that was the problem with the show..all style and no substance.Michael Praed sang well enough but as did Helen Anker but the book was so weak they had little else to do.Its a shame as well as the idea for a musical about the lives off elda and F.Scott Fitzgerald was a good one.It did however get a few good reviews but never found an audience.
No cast recording made, but they did make a dvd but never released it (though its floating around the underworld lol)


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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-20 08:41:45.0

'THE RINK'
Cambridge Theatre, London.
Opened 17th Feb 1988
Closed 19th Mar 1988
Ran for 38 perfs.

The only musical that i know that had a petition set up to prevent its closure by the theatre profession.
It opened to such negative reviews on the Thursday night that it was given its notice the following day-something not heard of in the West End very often!
For its entire 4 week run the only performances that were full and i mean hanging from the rafters was the Weds matinee when everyone in the business was there to see a brilliant show just wither away. A few major producers stepped in, including the owners of the Cambridge to transfer it to the Lyric on Shaftesbury Ave but the closure happened so fast that it never came together.
Anyone counting the number of major west End flops that Diane Langton has been in!

London cast Recording.
Broadway Cast Recording with Liza Minelli and Chita Rivera




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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-20 08:44:16.0

Dev, i remember you telling me you worked on Sherlock. The only good thing in it was the wonderful Julia Sutton.


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Posted by songanddanceman2 2008-02-20 08:51:48.0

Desperately Seeking Susan
Novello Theatre
Previewed from -Oct 16th 2007
Opened - November 15th 2007
Closed - December 15th 2007

Not a dreadful show just a show which was kinda there.The idea of turning the Hit Madonna film in to stage show was not a bad one but the direction/Choreography/design etc were so lifeless that even with Emma Williams and Kelly Price in the leads the show could not be saved.The musical announced it was closing only 13 days after opening and set the closing date for 1 month after its premiere.The show lost 3.5 million pounds and was the 2nd flop in a row at the novello after The Drowsy Chaperone had an identical run only a few months before.

No cast recording but you can buy a blondie album or 2


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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-20 08:53:03.0

'GIRLFRIENDS'
Playhouse Theatre, London.
Opened 16th Oct 1987
Closed 21st Nov 1987
Ran for 41 perfs

Only a 4 track single released.
Another major flop for howard Goodall, just a few years after 'The Hired Man'.


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Posted by songanddanceman2 2008-02-20 09:06:33.0

Daddy Cool
Shaftesbury Theatre
Previewed - from August 15th 2006
Opened - 21st September 2006
Closed - 17th February 2007

Not a complete flop but still big enough to warrant a mention.The show seemed doomed from the start with constant delays to opening making it look like the show would never open.Another bland jukebox musical with a similar story to Romeo and Juliet but updated.The papers didn't really like it and more focused on the affair between Javine and Harvey 2 of the shows stars (harvey was with someone else at the time).The show extended its booking period at one point (in an obvious ploy to get people to book quick thinking the show was selling out, which it wasn't) but closed after 5 months.
Once the show had gone from london the producers (one been Cameron Mackintosh brother) announced a UK tour, the Manchester Palace and the Birmingham Hippodrome were announced as 2 of the venues (it would kick off in manchester), however it soon became apparent that no one cared and the tour was scrapped.The show has found life in europe


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Posted by songanddanceman2 2008-02-20 09:28:53.0

Oscar Wilde the musical
Shaw Theatre
Opened 12th October 2004
Closed 13th October 2004
Ran for 1 performance

I never saw this so cant comment but its run and reviews tell you everything you need to know.Written by Mike Read (Book, Music, Lyrics) and produced by Oscar Wilde Production Limited the show was hailed as one of the worst musicals the critics had ever seen.It starred Peter Blake, Read Himself and my old MD Chris Corcoran.
The Guardian said "You begin to wonder whether the sound system is being affected by the hefty rumbling of Oscar Wilde turning in his grave." and the telegraph was equally scathing saying it was "hard to feel anything other than incredulous contempt".
It barely had a performance let alone a cast recording lol


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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-20 09:31:37.0

'THE DROWSY CHAPERONE'
Novello Theatre, London
Opened 14th May 2007
Closed 4th Aug 2007
Ran for 96 perf.

Starred Elaine Paige -nuff said!
Broadway Cast Recording only.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-20 09:46:46.0

Rite! So has my thread been hijacked and turned into a 'flop thread'?
It was started as a 'Flops that gave us a cast recording' thread!
LOL
Fine by me but please state at the end of your post if a cast recording was made even if it was a 4 track and if its BRoadway or West End release- see what ive done at the end of 'The Drowsy Chaperone' post!
I thank you.
xxx


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Posted by songanddanceman2 2008-02-20 09:50:46.0

Twang
shaftesbury theatre
Played 43 perfs
Opened 21st dec 1965
Closed 27 jan 66
The show was a spectacular flop in 1965 for Lionel Bart (Oliver) who then went on to have another flop (La Strade) on Broadway.The show opened in Manchester at the Palace at critics savaged it (referring to it as Clang).The changes were so many and so regualr during previews that bits of script were taped to the scenery).The show was also booed on its curtain call one night.The Mirror complained that the only memorable song in the show was the National Anthem.The show starred Barbara Windsor.



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Posted by songanddanceman2 2008-02-20 09:52:18.0

hahahahahahahahahahaha

wickedboy IM SORRY, I will state if they were a cast recording, but i think we should post all flop musicals as they are all fascinating lol


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-20 09:52:22.0

Twang! was Shaftesbury Theatre after try out at Manchester Palace


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Posted by songanddanceman2 2008-02-20 09:54:41.0

Hmm i just went off what the websites were saying, never realized it was the Palace (how very dare we)


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Posted by songanddanceman2 2008-02-20 09:59:36.0

i have adjusted twang and the cast recording issue and truly hang my head in shame lol


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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-20 10:01:06.0

SADM2. back in the 60s and 70s the Palace in Manchester was the big try out for a lot of major musicals prior to the West End. I dont mean like they are now on tour etc, i mean that the producers would just buy out the theatre for months until the show was ready and then they would open in London. Word of how the shows were doing were always kept a little quiet until they knew they had a good enough show for London.
Twang! Barbra Windsor
Billy Michael Crawford
and loads of others too.


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Posted by songanddanceman2 2008-02-20 10:04:16.0

Ooooh thanks for the info, we should have more out of town try outs in the UK


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-20 10:08:42.0

Manchester, Norwich and Bristol used to be the BIG try out towns.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by songanddanceman2 2008-02-20 10:10:15.0

Well i suppose we have the UK premiere of the Wedding Singer this week, thats kinda a try out..ish..a little


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-20 10:18:01.0

Kind of but not really. Its playing a week and then the tour is confirmed. The tryouts used to be just in one theatre and would just extend and extend until ready.


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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-20 10:25:59.0

'ON THE 20TH CENTURY'
Her Majestys Theatre, London.
Opened 27th March 1980
Closed 18th June 1980.
Ran for 165 perfs.

A brilliant show with a brilliant show company starring Julie Mackenzie.
Broadway Cast Recording only.



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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-20 10:42:01.0

'JACK THE RIPPER'
Ambassadors Theatre then transfered to the Cambridge Theatre.
Opened 17th Sep 1974
Closed 8th Feb 1975
Ran for 178 perf

A rare case of a show opening to good reviews and the producers deciding to take it to a bigger theatre straight away. That theatre was a little too big-1000 seats too big actually. It lasted just a few months in the 1500 seat Cambridge where it may have got a decent run in the 400 seat Ambassadors.
London Cast Recording available.


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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-20 10:56:59.0

'EUROVISION'
Vaudeville Theatre, London
Opened 10th Nov 1993
Closed 27th Nov 1993
Ran for 21 perfs.

'Nil Point' for Anita Dobson in this Euro trash of a show.
Anita released a single from the show called 'Boom Bang Bang'?


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Posted by songanddanceman2 2008-02-20 11:35:07.0

hahahaha i have a friend who worked on eurovision, oh the stories i could tell you


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by devonian.t 2008-02-20 13:19:57.0

Who could this be? The second biggest stinker of 2005?

Yup!


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Posted by devonian.t 2008-02-20 13:27:05.0

I liked the poster at least.

Venue Leicester Sq
Opened Oct 9th 2003
Closed Oct 11th 2003
5 perfs

(Stats courtesy of the Wicked one- thankles!)


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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-20 13:30:32.0

'CARRIE'
Royal Shakespeare Theatre, Stratford-Upon-Avon UK
Opened 13th Feb 1988
Closed 5th Mar 1988
Ran for 24 perfs.

The Stratford 4 week season was a huge success- at the box office! Very few productions there dont sell out before they open and 'Carrie' was one that sold faster than many others. The show was given some of the most savage notices ever seen for a new musical. The production took a nose dive from day one, through the production team making daily, sometimes hourly changes to cast changes announced very early for its New York transfer- Barbara Cook had removed herself from the production at the end of the Stratford run.
Fast forward to New York.

Virginia Theatre, New York USA
Opened May 12th 1988
Closed May 16th 1988
Ran for 6 perfs.
Betty Buckley replaced Barbara Cook as Mrs White.
Nothing that was attempted in the last weeks of the Stratford run to rebuild the show and its opening on Broadway would prepare the show for its fate and place in history books. It really is the greatest musical disaster ever! Few would argue that fact- yes, there are shows that were flops and mega flops even but none have a reputation like 'Carrie-The Musical'.
No Cast Recording... but SongAndDanceMan2 has a few!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by songanddanceman2 2008-02-20 13:43:27.0

I have to jump in and say about carrie though (been a bit of an expert on the subject lol) that the show didn't get universally panned when it opened in the UK.It got a handful of good reviews, same with its broadway opening.
All the papers who hated it said the same thing, that the show Looked awful.A lot actually had praise for the score (the moments between Carrie and her Mother especially)

It seems to be a myth that the show received outrageous pans here in the UK, i will see if i can find my reviews for it and the UK and post them


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by devonian.t 2008-02-20 13:43:35.0

I really wish it would be given another go, minus the 80's tat and the massively ill-judged design.

Not sure if I've mentioned this before, but in conversation with Linzi she feels no big deal about the show- certainly no embarrassment. She did recount the story of being really confused by the booing on Broadway, that was followed by a massive standing ovation. I think Ken M mentions it too in his book.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by devonian.t 2008-02-20 13:45:10.0

Well at least this one got a cast recording. Loved it totally. You better not argue!!!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-20 13:49:41.0

'Simply Heavenly'
I left in the interval- what a lazy cast! Phone a show in!!!!- they didnt even pick up the phone!
Great cast recording tho!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-20 14:02:54.0



'MATADOR'
Queens Theatre, London
Opened 16th April 1991
Closed June 27th 1991
Ran for 103 perf.

Even Stephanie Powers name on this plate of paella couldnt save it from an earlyish closing notice. John Barrownan was leading man.
Studio cast recording made with Tom Jones.



re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by songanddanceman2 2008-02-20 14:07:18.0

Yeah i had a chat with Linzi about the show to and she said she really liked it (and owns the bootleg dvd lol)


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by devonian.t 2008-02-20 14:09:40.0

Very nice bullfight dance- rather like the Snake in Children of Eden.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by devonian.t 2008-02-20 14:12:20.0

Wicked, you knew I'd do this one...

And the OLC recording is much better than the American version- well, maybe excluding Shipshape!

Listen to that beautiful orchestration!!!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-20 14:16:41.0

I left it for you but i was tempted! x


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Posted by songanddanceman2 2008-02-20 15:09:09.0

Oh i had to do it

Rent Remixed
Duke Of Yorks Theatre
Opened Oct 16th 2007
Closed February 2nd 2008

Rent Remixed (or Rent Reduced as the guardian called it)didnt even seem like a good idea on paper.Take one hugely successful rock opera, Take out the Rock and Replace with disco beats and computerized synthesizers, add director whos only experience is making Kylie's shows extra glittery and what do you have....Shiny Rent.All the points were missed, the remixed music was in large dreadful and the cast went from Brilliant (Luke Evans and Leon Lopez) to horrific (Siobhan Donaghy), Performances canceled and some nights 50 people sat in the 600 seater theatre asking "erm where is the rest of the audience".Critics laughed, Rent Heads cried and the whole thing was put out of its misery before its 1st booking date was even up.Talks of a tour seem to be just that.Rent Remixed did succeed in one way....it made you want to buy the ORIGINAL Broadway cast recording.

No cast recording available but many recording of the show have surfaced.


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Posted by turquoisefish 2008-02-20 15:43:04.0


Rent Remixed
Duke Of Yorks Theatre
Opened April 16th 2007
Closed February 2nd 2008


I think it opened October not April, April - February would have been a much healthier run.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by songanddanceman2 2008-02-20 15:44:44.0

Thanks Turq, no idea why i put April....sorted now
I almost extended its run then lol


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-20 19:02:47.0

'BEYOND THE RAINBOW'
Adelphi Theatre, London

Opened 9th November 1978
Closed 11th April 1979
Ran for 197 perf.
A favourite amongst disastrous flop lovers.
The story of the second flood! The set included two mountains which the cast referred to as 'big tit' and 'little tit' -classy eh!

London Cast Recording and also in many other languages!!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-20 19:20:21.0

'LEONARDO-THE MUSICAL'
Strand Theatre, London

Opened 3rd June 1993
Closed 10th July 1993
Ran for 52 perfs

Like watching paint dry!

CD single released.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by songanddanceman2 2008-02-20 19:22:34.0

haha the poster was dull as hell for that show


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-20 19:29:41.0

'LAUTREC'
Shaftesbury Theatre, London

Opened 6th april 2000
Closed 17th June 2000
Ran for 83 perf

Again, like watching paint dry but i think it was one the most beautiful, sumptuous, stunningly staged show i'd seen for years. certainly a case where you sang the set not the show. LOL and the music was by superstar crooner Charles Aznovour!!!
Wish they did a cast recording of this!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-20 19:42:31.0

'MOBY DICK-A Whale Of A Tale'
Piccadilly Theatre, London.
Opened 17th March 1992
Closed 4th July 1992
Ran for 198 after Cameron kept ploughing cash into it.

The West Ends first and only musical with a whole scene in 3D- still got my glasses!

Cast Recording made from personal sound desk tape of Cameron Mackintosh that was never meant for public release but sold out within weeks of issue!!!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by devonian.t 2008-02-21 03:38:49.0

There was also a CD sampler of 4 songs recorded in a studio, including Whale of a Tale and Love Will Always Try to Make Fools of Us All (a possible nominee for clumsiest lyric ever- up the with Wishing You Were Somehow Here Again!)


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-21 06:27:44.0

BLONDEL
Old Vic Theatre, London - then transfered to Aldwych Theatre.
Opened 9th Nov 1983
Closed 14th Jan 1984 then transfered
Ran for 81 perfs.

Aldwych Theatre, London.
Opened 21st Jan 1984
Closed 22nd Sept 1984
Ran for 252 perfs.
Tim Rices first venture away from the comfort zone of Andrea Lloyd Webber. A pretty dull musical that just withered away after its transfer into town.
Rewritten last year and produced at the Pleasance Theatre but again Mr Rice wasnt happy.

Original Cast Recording


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-21 06:42:39.0

"OUT OF THE BLUE"
Shaftesbury Theatre, London.

Opened 23rd Nov 1994
Closed 10th Dec 1994
Ran for 27 perfs.

It came from out of the blue and disappeared just as fast! No one knew anything about it.
Cast Recording made.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by devonian.t 2008-02-21 15:24:29.0

I can feel his pain!

Hey, great news- there were 2 recordings to choose from!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-21 16:19:34.0

lol


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by luke-h*** 2008-02-22 18:45:22.0

Breakfast at Tiffany's
Majestic Theatre New York
12th December 1966 - 14th December 1966
Had a Total of 4 Prieviews, and never officialy opened, the Producer David Merrick said that he didn't want to subject the Drama Critics and public to an excrutiatingly boring evening. I always thought a Musical version of this Movie would be quite good, and I always wanted to write a musical version of it myself, but thought it pointless when I decided that if a musical version of the movie by an actual composer flopped then mine would surely be pointless musical suicide! There was a studio recoridng released 2001, which i've been meaning to buy and listen to (or burn, depending on the quality of the show)


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-22 18:52:09.0

The recording is actually two versions of the show mixed. Its nothing to get excited about and i was very disappointed.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by songanddanceman2 2008-02-22 18:54:45.0

i have that recording and its pretty bland to say the least


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by luke-h*** 2008-02-22 19:17:26.0

There was a different version written in 2004, it was performed at the Muny in St Louis, anybody know whether or not that was a good version?


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by Scripps2 2008-02-23 11:10:22.0

"Someone should have told poor Pet that the UK theatre going audience had no interest in the American civil war."

Maybe Pet could tell Trevor Nunn...


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by Theatrical Landladies 2008-02-24 09:38:09.0

WHAT A REALLY INTERESTING THREAD!!!

I know there is no cast recording but what about MARLYN at the Adelphi? I'm sure Wickedboy will have all the stats. Overall I quite enjoyed that show though mainly due to Stephanie Lawrence being so dynamic.

Worst taste ever had to be the opening title number in FIELDS OF AMBROSIA.... "Let's all sing with gospel fervour as we electrocute this young man"


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-24 09:54:15.0

MARILYN-THE MUSICAL
Adelphi Theatre, London.
Opened 17th March 1983
Closed 30th July 1983
Ran for 149 perfs.

A major musical about Marilyn Monroe! - how could it go wrong? It did and in spectacular fashion. The music was incredibly bland with no big numbers that anyone would remember 10 minutes after curtain. A lot of money was thrown at the show to keep it going for nearly 5 months.
The staging was very interesting as we saw Marilyn's life thru a movie camera that was on stage on a huge lift that swept around and over the action. The Camera was actually the narrator.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-24 09:55:32.0

America didn't take much to a musical about Marilyn either and in that same year, just a few months after Londons disaster closed New York got this.....

MARILYN-The American Fable
Minskoff Theatre. New York
Opened 20th Nov 1983
Closed 3rd Dec 1983
Ran for 23 perfs.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-24 10:16:10.0

BAR MITZVAH BOY
Her Majestys Theatre, London.
Opened 31st Oct 1978
Closed 7th Jan 1979
Ran for 79 perfs.

A very popular BBC TV play by Maureen Lipmans husband, Jack Rosenthal, just didnt work as a stage musical despite having one or two great numbers by Don Black.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-24 10:42:44.0

THE TRAVELLING MUSIC SHOW
Her Majestys Theatre, London
Opened 28th March 1978
Closed 15th may 1978
Ran for 41 perf

Bruce Forsyth, being one of the UKs top ever performers has only ever had two West End musicals to his name. The first was the original London production of 'Little Me' and that was only 339 perfs at the Cambrige in 1964- tho still not as popular as the later Russ Abbott production at the Prince of Wales 1984.
Brucies second West End outing was this stinker in 1978, which was a kind of revue musical with a shoestring story there to link it with the music of Anthony Newley and Leslie Bricusse.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-24 11:43:56.0

ROMEO ANFD JULIET-THE MUSICAL
Piccadilly Theatre, London.
Opened 14th Nov 2002
Closed 8th Feb 2003
Ran for 52 perfs

Certainly not the first of The Bards masterpieces to be given a musical theatre treatment but certainly the one with some of the most awful music, staging and performances. Not to mention the reviews, but hey it gave the West End -Jane McDonald!

London and French Cast Recordings made.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by songanddanceman2 2008-02-24 13:50:29.0

Poor Marilyn, i have the american one on dvd (Marilyn and american fable) it is kind of a "what were they thinking" show


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by Paulyd 2008-02-24 14:58:42.0

Thanks for all of these Wickedboy2. I had almost forgotten about Romeo & Juliet which was probably the only show i have walked out on. I tried my best, but it was just too painful


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-24 17:39:28.0

PAGEANT
Vaudeville Theatre, London
Opened 10th Aug 2000
Closed 30th Sep 2000
Ran for 65 perfs

A transfer from the tiny Kings Head Theatre Pub in Islington. A great fun show about a very tacky beauty pageant where the joke is that all the female contestants are played by men!!! Sadly the whole intimate feel that made the show so much fun at the Kings Head was lost in the transfer to the Vaudeville. Lionel Blair starred but not in drag! The second night i saw it in Islington, Shirley Bassey was in the audience having a ball.
Australian Cast Recording made live.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-24 17:51:02.0

I LOVE YOU, YOUR PERFECT, NOW CHANGE!
Comedy Theatre, London.
Opened 28th July 1999
Closed 18th Sep 1999
Ran for 59 perfs.

10 years on Broadway! 10 weeks in the West End!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by songanddanceman2 2008-02-24 17:53:24.0

ain't perfect off broadway??

loved pageant


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-24 17:55:37.0

DANCIN'
Theatre Royal Drury Lane, London.
Opened 14th Nov 1983
Closed 28th Jan 1984
Ran for 87 perfs

Big hit on Broadway running 4 and half years but didnt find its dancing feet in London even with the Broadway company intact. Boy was this a bore, nothing like 'Fosse' that came along nearly 20 years later.



re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-24 18:13:54.0

GONE WITH THE WIND
Theatre Royal Drury Lane, London.
Opened 18th June 1972
Closed 21st Jan 1973
Ran for 358 perfs

This show has such a reputation that it has a place in history as one of the greatest fiasco's in musical theatre. It surprises a lot of people that it ran almost a year at Drury Lane.
**i wonder if their will be another entry under this title in the summer??**

Cast Recording of 1972 London production only on LP;
Japanese production under the title of 'Scarlet' available on CD


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by devonian.t 2008-02-25 11:47:58.0

Drury Lane seems to have had more than its share of disappointments.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by Eastwickian 2008-02-25 12:01:42.0



JEEVES
Her Majesty's Theatre, London
Opened 22 April 1975
Closed 24 May 1975
38 performances

Starring David Hemmings as Bertie Wooster and Michael Aldridge as Jeeves. Following an extremely troubled tryout in Bristol (the first performances lasted for over four and a half hours!) the show received mixed-to-poor reviews in London and closed after less than a month.

Original London Cast Recording released on LP - now one of the rarest cast albums.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-25 13:51:06.0

'JEEVES' The Glove!
When 'Phantom Of The Opera' was announced in London in early 1986 the first publicity looked very much as it is today with the mask, the rose etc. The one difference is that the first artwork had the rose held by a white glove! The original flyers were large foldouts with a reproduction of the artwork inside. As the opening of the production got closer and closer, Andrew Lloyd Webber got very superstitious of this white glove again on one of his shows. He thought that by leaving the glove on the publicity then the curse of his only MAJOR disaster, 'Jeeves' would rub off on to 'Phantom'. Within weeks they glove was removed and just the rose and mask were used from then until today. Ive sold 2 of the original fliers for £50 each and still have 4 left- any offers?


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by Theatrical Landladies 2008-02-25 13:59:44.0

Wicked... please post an image of the original flyer as I would love to see it.

What about ALWAYS "The ultimate love story" which ran for a short while at the VICTORIA PALACE. I think I have a CD single with a couple of the songs on it. Something about a Carousel I think!!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-25 14:04:58.0

Will do, i'll dig it out. (Devonian has one).
I thought i had done ALWAYS on here but it was another thread.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-25 14:15:38.0

ALWAYS
Victoria Palace Theatre, London
Opened 10th June 1997
Closed 23rd June 1997
Ran for 19 perfs.

A musical about the abdication of the King Of England and the love story of Edward And Mrs Simpson.
Fun beyond! The show was Cilla Blacks first venture into producing for the theatre and her last!
Cheekily know in the theatre world as 'The Musical With Wings'
Sheila Ferguson famously sang a number called 'Loves Carousel'


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-25 14:51:58.0

THE FIELDS OF AMBROSIA
Aldwych Theatre, London.
Opened 31st Jan 1996
Closed 11th Feb 1996
Ran for 22 perfs.

The story of a traveling executioner who had his very own traveling electric chair!
The audience were famed for not being able to hold back the giggles every night. Bill Kenwright was seen one night in the stalls being asked to be quiet, laughing so much.
The most jaw dropping moment was when one lead character, after being savagely male raped, burst into song with a number called 'If It Aint Not One Thing Its Another!'

The show was recorded and is a brilliantly produced album.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by devonian.t 2008-02-25 15:00:35.0

Jeeves "one of the rarest LPs"

And I got one, hee hee hee!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-25 15:21:30.0

SONGBOOK
Globe Theatre, London.
Opened 25th July 1979
Closed 7th Sep 1979
Ran for 64 perfs

A musical by Monty Norman and Julian More. A great cast but yet another stinker for poor Diane Langton- who's her agent for goodness sake?

Cast Recording done.



re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-25 15:30:05.0

PIPPIN
Her Majestys Theatre, London.
Opened 30th Oct 1973
Closed 29th jan 1974
Ran for 85 perfs.

One of the most popular musicals ever written. A huge hit on Broadway with just under 2000 perfs. The London production just got savaged by the critics and disappeared after just 2 months.
I wonder if a certain DIANE LANGTON being in the company had anything to do with it?

Broadway Cast recording available and is a mega-million seller even today.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-25 18:27:56.0

'BY JEEVES'
Duke Of Yorks Theatre, London.
Opened 2nd July 1996
Closed 28th Sep 1996
Transfered to-

Lyric Theatre , London.
Opened 30th Sep 1996
Closed 22nd Feb 1997
Ran for 257 perfs.

If its broken-just leave it!
Lloyd Webber was always wanting to get back to 'Jeeves' and make it work. He attempted in 1996 but reviews were luke warm. He closed the show again after just 2 months but reopened a slightly rewritten version at the Lyric Shaftesbury Ave that still only crawled along for just another 3 months.
I found the whole evening frightfully, frightfully ,terribly, boreing say what! -and so did New York when it opened there and was off after 73 performances.
Tally ho!

Cast Recording and full DVD of show available.



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Posted by Jonwo 2008-02-25 18:56:00.0

I've noticed most of the flops seem to come from certain theatres which are The Shaftesbury, Piccadilly Theatre, Her Majesty's, Aldwych and the Novello yet today with the exception of the Novello are currently hosting hit shows.

BTW do you have any info on Peggy Sue got Married.


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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-25 19:02:26.0

PEGGY SUE GOT MARRIED
Shaftesbury Theatre, London.
Opened 20th Aug 2001
Closed Oct 13th 2001
Ran for 72 perfs.

A show that could have been wonderful but didnt quiet make the mark and audiences kept away. The reviews were negative to OK and then came 9/11.
At least Ruthie met her now husband on the show.

4 number single released but very few.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by Jonwo 2008-02-25 19:10:22.0

Thanks for that, I do like Ruthie Henshall and she's doing a great job on Dancing on Ice though I can't wait to see her in Marguerite.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-25 19:25:54.0

BYE BYE BIRDIE
Her Majestys Theatre, London
Opened 15th June 1961
Closed 29th Oct 1961
Ran for 268 perf

Chita Riveras first London performance didnt catch on the way it did on Broadway even co-starring the big pop star of the day-Marty Wilde (Kim Wildes dad). The show folded after just four months.

Cast Recrodings done of both Broadway and London productions. The orchestrations for the London one are far superior to the Broadway.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-25 19:39:55.0

THE GOOD COMPANIONS
Her Majestys Theatre, London.
Opened 11th July 1974
Closed 28th Nov 1974
Ran for 232 perfs.

A musical adaption of the very popular novel by J.B Preistley with music and lyrics by Andre Previn and Johnny Mercer.
Judi Dench made her second appearance in a musical (Cabaret, as Sally Bowles was her first) with this show but sadly, a mixture of mostly negative reviews and 3 or 4 IRA bombs in London that summer of 1974 saw the show close early. The show was one of Marti Webb's first West End shows.

Cast Recording done.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-25 19:54:43.0

TWO GENTLEMEN OF VERONA
Phoenix Theatre, London.
Opened 26th April 1973
Closed 1st Oct 1973
Ran 237 perfs.

A rock version of Shakespeare's classic with music by Galt MacDermot who wrote 'Hair'.

Cast Recording of both Broadway and London. London only on LP


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-26 06:29:44.0

POPKISS
Globe Theatre, London.
Opened 22nd Aug 1972
Closed 14th Oct 1972
Ran for 65 perfs.
Music by David Heneker who wrote 'Half A Sixpence'.

A musical adaption of the popular Ben Travers farce 'Rookery Nook' Not many remember the musical but he play is revived quiet often.

Cast Recording on LP only and is absolute hell to find!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-26 06:44:29.0

'GREASE'
New London Theatre, London
Opening 14th June 1973
Closed 26th Oct 1973
Ran for 236 perfs

'Grease' wasn't the word when it first opened in London in 1973 running barely 5 months. Richard Gere played Danny (see above photo). Its second visit to the West End at the Astoria lasted even less -127 perfs in 1979!

No recording done of original London cast but almost every other one is out there! Shame they didnt get Richard Gere down on vynil- guess no one had any idea he would one day be so huge!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-26 06:57:26.0

'DEAN'
London Casino Theatre, London (now Prince Edward Theatre)
Opened 30th Aug 1977
Closed 6th Oct 1977
Ran for 35 perfs.

A car crash of a musical that attempted to use a lot more multi-media technology than they knew how to handle back in 1977.

Cast Recording done but very very very rare.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-26 07:40:35.0

'TOMMY'
Queens Theatre, London.
Opened 6th Feb 1979
Closed 14th May 1979
Ran for 119 pefs

The frist outing for 'Tommy' in the West End was a pretty cheapish production that came from the Queens Theatre Hornchurch in Essex and was gone within 9 weeks.

No Cast Recording.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-26 08:00:54.0

'THE UMBRELLAS OF CHERBOURG'
Phoenix Theatre, London.
Opened 10th April 1980
Closed 17th April 1980
Ran for 12 perfs.

The music was by Michael Legrand who has never had a major success on stage and is probably hoping his next venture, 'Marguerite' this year, gets further than 12 perfs!
'The Umbrellas Of Cherbourg' was stunning to look at pretty dull to listen to.
The stage musical was turned into a film.

No Cast Recording


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-26 08:08:20.0

'CITY OF ANGELS'
Prince Of Wales Theatre, London.
Opened 30th Mar 1993
Closed 8th Nov 1993
Ran for 272 perf.

Opened just a few months before the mega-hype of 'Sunset Boulevard' hit London and in many peoples opinion the far superior of the two. It opened to fantastic reviews and good houses but all attention shifted to the Adelphi from June and the show limped along until November.

Cast Recordings done of both London and Broadway. The London recording is the most complete and is a stunning album- one of my faves!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-26 08:26:47.0

'SWEENEY TODD- THE DEMON BARBER OF FLEET STREET'
Theatre Royal, Drury Lane, London.
Opene 2nd July 1980
Closed 8th Nov 1980
Ran for 157 perfs.

A simply stunning production that just dint find an audience in London for a number of reasons. The critics didn't exactly gush over the show, calling it cold and heartless and not really a musical!!!
Much was made of trying to sell the show as 'a musical thriller' -what did they think it was??? This was put on some publicity but not all. Family's were certainly put off taking children.
Finally, the press went to town on the ticket pricing- seats for the Saturday 8pm show was the first time a West End musical had hit the top ticket price of.....£10 Scandalous!
The show was at the newly opened Half Price Ticket Booth in Leicester Sq every performance except opening night but it would probably have closed much sooner if the booth hadnt excisted that summer. I feel so lucky to have been able to get to see this show 7 times and wish they had gotten it on LP but the Broadway production had already given us a very lavish 2 LP release.



re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-26 08:44:01.0

'BLOOD BROTHERS'
Lyric Theatre, London.
Opening 11th April 1983
Closed 22nd Oct 1983
Ran for 223 perfs.

This, the first production in the West End came from the Liverpool Playhouse and starred Barbara Dickson but she had such a reputation for missing so many shows (never a full week and some occasions full weeks off) that the audiences started falling pretty fast.
In my opinion far superior to the Bill Kenwright production thats been in town for 20 odd years.

A great Cast Recording but has the distinct feel of a studio album.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-26 08:54:09.0

'MARCH OF THE FALSETTOS'
Albery Theatre, London.
Opened 24th March 1987
Closed 13th april 1987
Ran 28 perfs.

A gorgeous and very clever show that has become a classic to many who love musical theatre. The evening i saw the show there were 41 people there.

Broadway Cast Recording.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-26 08:55:57.0

'WINNIE'
Victoria Palace Theatre, London.
Opening 31st May 1987
Closed 30th Jul 1987
Ran for 61 perf

A jolly musical that used some of the greatest war time songs and some new ones by Lionel Bart but was let down badly by a very weak book and staging.
Had a 6 week try out at the Palace Theatre Manchester.

Cast REcording on LP


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by devonian.t 2008-02-26 09:08:07.0

Did you blink? You missed it!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-26 09:10:46.0

'THREE GUYS NAKED FROM THE WAIST DOWN'
Donmar Warehouse Theatre, London.
Opened 31th jan 1989
Closed 26th Feb 1989
Ran for 53 perfs

A very weak show based around a group of American stand-up comics!
Played at the old Donmar Warehouse in the days when it had open runs of many shows not in seasons as it does today.

Off-Broadway Cast Recording only.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-26 09:39:06.0

The Goodbye Girl is on my list here! That got an album!
Im working on some older more obscure shows at the mo


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-26 10:00:29.0

'YOUR A GOOD MAN, CHARLIE BROWN'
Fortune Theatre, London
Opened 1st Feb 1969
Closed 21st May 1969
Ran 119 perfs.

This show has had two West end outings, this the original and a revival at The Mayfair theatre, both only barely making the 100 performance mark. Constantly being rewritten and updated it still gets produced today.

Many Cast Recordings done.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by songanddanceman2 2008-02-26 10:04:07.0

I always liked Your A Good Man Charlie Brown, i always found it very sweet and endearing, its a shame the UK didn't take to it (though they are many amdram productions which seem to do well)


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-26 10:06:11.0

In 1980 the New Theatre Cardiff did it in rep with 'Joseph' and it outsold 'Joseph' every week.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-26 10:12:10.0

'STEPPING OUT- THE MUSICAL'
Albery Theatre
Opened 28th Oct 1997
Closed 28th Feb 1998
Ran 156 perf.

What probably sounded like a good idea of turning an award winning long running comedy (1578 perfs) into a musical failed on all levels. The music was totally forgettable and the whole production suffered from weak direction and casting.

Cast Recording done.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-26 10:26:01.0

'POPPY'
Adelphi Theatre, London.
Opened 14th Nov 1983
Closed 18th Feb 1984
Ran for 231 perf.

A musical styled in the tradition of Victorian pantomime that tells the story of the Victorian opium wars.
The Royal Shakespears last large scale musical before they pulled all the stops out a year later for another 'flop' (*see next entry) 'Les Miserables'

Cast Recording on LP only


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-26 10:26:39.0

'LES MISERABLES'
Barbican Theatre, London.
Opened 8th Oct 1985
Closed 23rd Nov 1985
Ran for 39 perfs.

Receiving some of the most hostile reviews from London critics the West End had seen in decades the RSC were bracing themselves ready for probable closure with this one. BUT Cameron Mackintosh saw the show one evening, liked it and despite loads of advice not too, he bought the show there and then. Less than two weeks after it closed at the Barbican it was sitting in a West End theatre and there it got reviewed again, and again they were scathing BUT it sat in that theatre for the next 18 years-sold out at every performance! The RSC still get a handsome royalty fee from the show.
The RSC pretty much left big musicals alone until 'Carrie', even after that they did an unsuccessful production the Broadway hit 'The Secret Garden'.

3759 Cast Recordings done!!!



re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-26 11:38:53.0

'JEAN SEBERG -THE MUSICAL'
National Theatre, Olivier Auditorium, London.
Opened 1st Dec 1983
Closed 4th April 1984
Ran 53 perfs in rep with other productions.

And now its the turn of the National Theatre to have a big flop....
The National took a huge stumble with this musical based on the actress Jean Sebergs life. Seberg appeared most famously in the movies 'St.Joan' and 'Paint Your Wagon'.
The musical was ripped to shreds by the critics and audiences dwindled until the National announced its cancellation- the first time it had done so.
Originally scheduled to play fot 2 years the show managed 53 performances over 4 months.
The National filled the dates left empty with a rapidly put together revival of its hit 'Guys And Dolls' from 1982. So successful was its return that it finally played the West End at the Prince Of Wales for 10 months starring Lulu.


Cast Recording! I wish!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-26 12:14:35.0

'KING'
Piccadilly Theatre, London.
Opened 23rd April 1990
Closed 25th May 1990
Ran fro 27 perfs.

A musical on the life of Martin Luther King.
One of the most expensive productions of its time and also one of the most depressing scores to a musical i've ever experienced.
The set had a huge opening in the stage representing hell (!) -when 'King' closed, the set was sold on to a production company in the early stages of producing a musical of 'Earthquake'. They wanted it produced at the Piccadilly but we were thankfuly saved from that one!

London Cast Recording


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by songanddanceman2 2008-02-26 12:18:02.0

Oh my god...EARTHQUAKE THE MUSICAL !!!!, that would have been ace lol


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-26 12:30:23.0

'A CLOCKWORK ORANGE'
Royalty Theatre, London.
Opened 6th Feb 1990
Closed 23rd March 1990
Ran fot 36 perfs.

A musical reworking of the classic and controversial film by Stanley Kubrick. Music and lyrics were by Bono and The Edge.
A really exciting evening in the theatre with great music and a fantastic futuristic set. The critics loved it but the audience stayed away clearly still aware of the movies not so good reputation.

Sadly no recording


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by luke-h*** 2008-02-26 13:01:19.0

questions...
1> How do I put a picture on my message>
2> who ever thought a musical version of clockwork orange could work?


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by Theatrical Landladies 2008-02-26 14:04:24.0

What about METROPOLIS?

Just a note on CITY OF ANGELS. I remember on the opening night of SUNSET they interviewed LLOYD WEBBER as he arrived and on television he said he was very disappointed that such a great show could close. I think the many positive comments made that night helped keep COA open a little while longer.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-26 14:19:34.0

'METROPLOIS'
Piccadilly Theatre, London
Opened 8th March 1989
Closed 2nd Sep 1989
Ran 281 perf.

I loved this show. It was big, brash and it had Judy Kuhn in it! The set was just stunning. They removed the entire stage to fit in the monster of a set that looked purely cinematic as it rose from below.

Complete show recorded live on 2 CDs


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-26 14:35:00.0

'HARD TIMES'
Theatre Royal Haymarket, London.
Opened 16th June 2000
Closed 26th Aug 2000
Ran for 77 perf.

A sorry excuse for a musical adapted from the Charles Dickens novel.
Written by Daily Mail theatre critic, Christopher Tookey and mauled by his fellow critics.

3 track Cd single.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-26 14:44:48.0

'THE MYSTERY OF EDWIN DROOD'
Savoy Theatre London.
Opened 6th may 1987
Closed 12th July 1987
Ran for 68 perfs.

London certainly didn't get the Tony award winning production from Broadway!
Messy, messy, messy. Lulu tried her best but what with poor old Ernie Wise walking around the stage with the script in his hand every night the mystery didnt last long.

Broadway Cast Rcording.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by Theatrical Landladies 2008-02-26 16:30:00.0

I quite liked METROPOLIS though I remember thinking it must have been the nearest thing to a nuclear fallout zone when the set went up at the end!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by Scripps2 2008-02-26 17:40:43.0

Didn't Poppy go on to have a second much-longer West End run a couple of years later?


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-26 18:24:07.0

'Poppy' had a fantastic revival not in the West End but at the glorious Half Moon theatre in Mile End!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by Eastwickian 2008-02-26 18:42:53.0



LA CAVA
Victoria Palace Theatre
22nd May - 22nd July 2000. Transferred to
Piccadilly Theatre
21 August 2000 - 3rd February 2001

I think I'm the only one with a soft spot for this show The plot was a little complicated, but the fantastic staging, a naked (from the back) Julie-Alanah Brighten and a powerful performance from Marilyn Cutts stick in the mind...

Original London Cast recording (now out of print) on the Dress Circle label


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-26 18:47:44.0

Thanks EW, i was gonna put 'La Cava' in soon as i was on a run of Piccadilly flops!
LOL
Lots of people wonder if it would have lasted longer if it had stayed at the Victoria Palace???


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-27 08:00:55.0

'SPIN OF THE WHEEL'
Comedy Theatre, London.
Opened 7th April 1987
Closed 2nd May 1987
Ran for 42 perfs.

God this was so tediously awful i've tried to forget the whole thing. I think it went like this- A show set in TV studio for a game show called 'Spin Of The Wheel'. Audiences members were pulled to participate but were actually plants- one being Maria Friedman in what i think was her first West End musical. Im sure she's forgotten this one!

3 track CD only.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-27 09:48:46.0

'HEDWIG AND THE ANGRY INCH'
Playhouse Theatre, London
Opened 19th sep 2000
Closed 4th Nov 2000
Ran for 29 perfs.

A transfer from Off Broadway where the show ran for a number of years but only managed 3 weeks in Londons West End.

Broadway Cast Recording and major movie made of the show.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-27 09:55:52.0

'GREAT BALLS OF FIRE'
Cambridge Theatre, London.
Opened 6th Oct 1999
Closed 18th dec 1999
Ran for 71 perfs

Juke box musical that was simply that- no attempt at any kind of story line and that was probably its downfall.

4 track CD released


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-27 10:17:30.0

'The Pyjama Game'
Victoria Palace Theatre, London.
Opened 15th Oct 1999
Closed 18th Dec 1999
Ran for 88 perfs.

A production that started life at the Birmingham Rep in July 1999 originally starring Ulrika Jonsson. It then moved to the Royal Alex Theatre in Toronto, Canada for a warm up season in preparation for the London opening. The show went into free fall on its arrival in Canada with some pretty scathing reviews, some aimed at the show but most at Ms Jonsson. Prior to the London opening Ms Jonnson was 'taken ill and wouldnt be able to continue in her role'!!!! In stepped Lesley Ash at last minute, fresh from her success in 'Men Behaving Badly' but the show was coldly received by the critics and closed just before Christmas after just 10 weeks. Anita Dodson was with show from the beginning.

No recording


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-27 10:59:31.0

'HEATHCLIFF'
Apollo Theatre Hammersmith, London.
Opened 14th Feb 1997
Closed 1st April 1997
Ran for 49 perfs.
Also played seasons in Manchester, Edinburgh and Birmingham.

OK so it wasnt a flop in box office terms (earned Cliff nearly £2m in just a few months!) but it was in every other sense one of the most panned shows in recent history.
'It is impossible to describe the sheer awfulness of Cliff Richard's new musical Heathcliff'
-Herald Tribune
'Imagine Liberace as King Lear'
-BBC

Studio Cast recording and the whole darn mess on DVD


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by devonian.t 2008-02-27 11:06:57.0

I'll resurrect Spin of the Wheel as my avatar for a minute.

Wick, I'm ready to learn about this photo-launching site so that I can join in the fun with more pics!

PS I didn't realize there was a cd recording at all. I remember one catchy song about the largest butterfly or something, where the dupe was being unwittingly fed the answers for the gameshow.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-27 11:18:19.0

It was, as with most 3 or 4 track CD releases, just a promo that went out in the weeks before it opened.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-27 11:26:29.0

'BAT BOY'
Shaftesbury Theate, London.
Opened 8th Sept 2005
Closed 15th Jan 2005
Ran for 142 perfs.

How this production kept open for so long is amazing what with houses of around 80 or 90 most nights. The theatre was way to big for a small musical like this and it was blown out of all proportion for the Shaftesbury. In New York it played in 189 seat theatre and in London it may have fared better if they had found a similar theatre.
Deven May who originated the part Off Broadway and in London is currently one of the leads in the US production of 'Jersey Boys'
A great show with some fun numbers.

Off Broadway and London Cast Recordings.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-27 11:31:14.0

Deven May, the original Bat Boy, as a Jersey Boy in the US production of 'Jersey Boys'
Far right in pic.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by Scripps2 2008-02-27 12:34:02.0

Thanks for the update on Deven May. He was good in BatBoy and so was Emma Williams but I didn't rate the show.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-27 14:02:33.0

'BAD GIRLS'
Garrick Theatre, London.
Opened 16th Aug 2007
Closed 17th Nov 2007
Ran for 91 perf.
Transfer from West Yorkshire Playhouse in June 2006.

A musical adaption of the long running TV series. A great example of a British musical that sadly couldnt find an audience to keep it open long enough for it to gain what i think could have ben cult status.

London Cast Recording just released.
A DVD of the show is to be released in 2008 and a National Tour starts in June/ july 2008


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-27 14:21:52.0

'RADIO TIMES"
Queens Theatre, London.
Opened 15th Oct 1992
Closed 16th Jan 1993
Ran for 75 perf

A new musical using the songs of Noel Gay that tried to cash in on the success of 'Me And My Girl' which had recently finished an 8 year run. Tony Slattery starred.

Very very rare Cast Recording made.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by Scripps2 2008-02-27 14:41:51.0

I seem to remember reading somewhere that there was a stage musical version of the Carry On films sometime in the 1970s called Carry On London and it had Sid James in the cast. I can't imagine him croaking and guffawing his way through a song. Does anyone else know anything about this?


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-27 14:54:26.0

'Carry On London ' opened at the Victoria Palace in Aug 1973 at the height of the 'Carry On' films popularity. It starred Sid James, Barabra Windsor, Kenneth Connor, Bernard Bresslaw and others from the films.
It was a variety/ music hall style show more than a musical and had nothing to do with 'Carry On' in the slightest! A typical summer season show youd find in Blackpool
It ran from 1973 to 1975. A new production opened almost straight away called 'Carry On laughing' that ran 1975-1976.
An album was released with the stars doing their 'turns' and a TV series was run on Sunday nights which was a 'best of' compilation show.

** in case you cant read the album cover- the red banner reads 'its 12' long and nearly 1' thick and it'll bring tears to your eyes' What a Carry On! lol






re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by Scripps2 2008-02-27 15:02:10.0

Thanks WickedBoy! I knew you'd deliver!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-02-27 15:04:45.0

Ive just adjusted the above . I was confused with the production that was in Blackpool in
1972


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by Flight0017 2008-02-27 15:25:35.0

'WHICH WITCH"
Piccadilly Theatre, London.
Opened 10th Oct 1992
Closed 19th Dec 1992
Ran for 76 perf

An unlikely musical to play the West End. The critics lined up to butcher director Piers Haggard and the lyrics by Kit Hesketh-Harvey. Played to half-empty houses, before the plug was pulled. The musical now enjoys life in its native country Norway.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by songanddanceman2 2008-02-27 18:19:08.0

Oh my god im so depressed that Bad Girls is in here grrr


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-03-02 18:16:56.0

'VOYEURZ'
Whitehall Theatre, London
Opened 22nd July 1996
Closed 14th Sep 1996
Ran for 43 perfs.

The press made this out to be very controversial in its sex-on-stage set up -wrong!!! Boring! Boring! It looked like 'Hot Gossip' had timewarped to the 90s!
Tedius performances and tedius music by tedius Lesbian pop group Fem2Fem.
A dancefloor hit did come from the show when Sally Anne Marsh released a 90s version of 60s Worldwide hit 'Windmils Of My Mind'

London Cast Recording along with the dance single!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-03-02 18:35:08.0

'CINDY-ELLA OR I GOT A SHOE'
Garrick Theatre, London.
Opened 17th Dec 1962
Closed 24th Mar 1964
Ran for 68 perfs

A black version of the Cinderella story by the late Ned Sherrin and starring in her first West End musical, Cleo Laine. She went on to do two other musicals that didnt do very well either, 'Collette' at the Comedy and 'Showoat' a revival at the Adelphi in the 70s. She made a big impression on Broadway tho in the original 'The mystery Of Edwin Drood'-winning a Tony award.
Ned Sherrin had many musicals in the West end but none fared well except the original production of 'Side By Side By Sondheim'


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by exedore 2008-03-03 06:46:29.0

The fact that Hedwig only ran 29 performances during its first run (unless it was scheduled as a limited work in some company's rep) is a damn shame. Such a brilliant show...


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by devonian.t 2008-03-03 16:12:53.0

whispers building to a crescendo...

ziegfeld, Ziegfeld, ZIEGFELD!!!

Go on Wicked


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-03-03 18:26:22.0

Im gonna go big on 'Z' ! It will be soon! x


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by sanda 2008-03-03 20:40:59.0

This is one of the best threads I ever read in BWW. Thank you all for the wonderful contribution.

Anyone would like to post "The Secret Garden"?


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-03-04 05:50:34.0

'THE SECRET GARDEN'
Aldwych Theatre, London.
Opened 27th Feb 2001
Closed 2nd June 2001
Ran for 118 perfs.
Transfer from Stratford.
The RSC production of the 1995 Broadway hit that didnt really work in London. The production looked stunning and had a great cast including Linzi Hately but it was a rather cold and heartless evening. I remember wishing they had just brought the Broadway production over instead.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by devonian.t 2008-03-04 08:42:12.0

An old friend of mine played one of the gardeners- I thought it was a mostly lovely, though at times plodding show


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by Eastwickian 2008-03-04 18:37:45.0



Napoleon The Musical
Shaftesbury Theatre
Opened 17th October 2000
Closed 3rd February 2001

Despite stunning direction from Francesca Zambello and Jonathan Tunick almost managing to make a silk purse from the sow's ear of Andrew Sabiston & Timothy Williams' score, this plodding mega-musical only managed to survive three and a half months at the (now ex-) house of flops.

There was a five track maxi CD released ahead of the opening, as well as the long out-of-print Canadian highlights cast recording. The final performances were professionally recorded live, but never released.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-03-05 08:03:02.0

'Not tonight Josephine!' I wasted a night in Toronto seeing 'Napoleon' -I swore then i wouldnt waste another when it came to London!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by devonian.t 2008-03-05 10:15:04.0

I've just mentioned She Loves Me on another thread.

She Loves Me
Savoy Theatre
Opened 12th July 1994
Closed 1st July 1995 (without recouping)

Lovely show and a very good cast recording!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by devonian.t 2008-03-05 10:20:43.0

Sugar Babies
Savoy Theatre
Opened 20th September 1988
Closed 7th Jan 1989

Even Ann Miller couldn't save this one for me. Snooze-ville!

There is a cast recording from Broadway, with the same leads.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-03-05 10:34:58.0

How very dare you! 'Sugar Babies' was a limited run from the beginning!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by devonian.t 2008-03-05 11:09:04.0

It was blinkin' empty the night I saw it.

I knew you'd protest!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by songanddanceman2 2008-03-05 11:10:37.0

now now kids lol


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-03-05 12:59:34.0

For your safety- delete it NOW!
lol


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-03-06 09:48:40.0

A few Piccadilly fiascos!

'RAGTIME'
Piccadilly Theatre, London
Opened 18th Mar 2003
Closed 14th June 2003
Ran for 87 perfs

After many years trying to get the original Broadway production to London, producer Sonia Friedman staged her own at the Piccadilly in 2003. The much scaled down production failed to catch the imagination of London audiences the way it did in the US where it ran a full two years on Broadway and only ran 3 months at the Piccadilly.
Great cast including Maria Friedman.

Broadway and Canadian cast recording


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-03-06 09:57:37.0

'MY OND AND ONLY"
Piccadilly Theatre, London.
Opened 25th March 2002
Closed 3rd August 2002
Ran for 207 perfs.

Arriving in London a mere 20 years after the Broadway production this one failed miserably probably because in the mid 1990s the west End had the far superior Gershwin musical 'Crazy For You' which ran for 3 years at the Prince Edward.

Broadway cast recording with Twiggy and Tommy Tune.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by songanddanceman2 2008-03-06 10:02:08.0

oh i saw Ragtime and My One And Only

I loved Ragtime but the theatre was dead when i went


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-03-06 10:07:13.0

"MACK AND MABEL'
Piccadilly Theatre, London.
Opened 7th Nov 1995
Closed 29th June 1996
Ran for 271 perfs.

Still they keep trying to do this and still it fails every time!
This was Londons first full scale production of the show and it looked very cheap and summer show like despite a great cast with Caroline O'Connor and Katherine Evans.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-03-06 10:17:18.0

I REPEAT!
Still they keep trying to do this and still it fails every time!

'MACK AND MABEL'
Criterion Theatre, London.
Opened 10th April 2006
Closed 1st July 2006
Ran for 86 perfs.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by songanddanceman2 2008-03-06 10:24:21.0

The last Mack and Mabel production with David Soul in was awful, i had to sit through that for a week.

I dont get why this keeps coming back, it didnt work in the US and it hasnt worked here, let it go


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-03-06 11:33:35.0

I'd like to thank the Piccadilly Theatre who, without it, this thread would be a few hundred short on entries!!!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by Eastwickian 2008-03-06 11:50:29.0

A relative's amateur dramtics society are doing Mack and Mabel soon and it's not something I'm looking forward to - their 'Oklahoma!' was over 3 and a half hours long and featured a Curly who was balding, overweight and pushing 60! Laurie was about the right age, which made the whole thing slightly creepy. Can't wait to see what they have in store for M&M...


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-03-06 12:18:59.0

Id like to thank the Piccadilly Theatre, whom without, this thread would be 2000 plus entries shorter!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by devonian.t 2008-03-06 14:02:33.0

The Savoy has been quite helpful too!

I loved this show- Ernie Wise, Lulu and the lovely Julia Hills

THE MYSTERY OF EDWIN DROOD
SAVOY THEATRE
Opened 7th May 1987
Closed 4th July 1987


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-03-06 14:38:34.0

Check page 6 Dev! Keep up dear, are finding it a bit chilly tonite?


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by devonian.t 2008-03-06 15:58:42.0

I've just heard Sweeney Todd wasn't a big hit at Drury Lane. Shall I post that one up?


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-03-06 18:32:40.0

Already done!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by devonian.t 2008-03-06 19:09:50.0

I was teasing!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by Theatrical Landladies 2008-03-15 02:51:20.0

Mack and Mabel was SUCH a disappointment at the Piccadilly and as you say Wicked it look SO cheap. I didn't like Howard McGillan as he just seemed too young and big voiced but the others were good.

The overture brought the house down!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by Scripps2 2008-03-16 17:58:51.0

I enjoyed the Doyle production of M&M as I felt the actor/musician concept suited the tragic nature of the material more than the conventional Broadway razamatazz style productions. It's the only Doyle production I have enjoyed though.

I suppose it keeps coming back because it has such a great score, but it is impossible to supercede (or even get close to) the original Broadway leads: Bernadette Peters and Robert Preston.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-03-16 18:05:22.0

Isn't it funny tho, that given its huge production numbers, the am-drams keep away from it like the black death. Its the one show that you'de think was so suited to big company's of 375!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by Scripps2 2008-03-16 18:59:32.0

All the amdrams up here seem to be on Witches of Eastwick at the moment. I've seen some very odd Darryls!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-03-16 19:02:34.0

LOL
Funnily enough, i saw the best production i have ever seen of 'Chess' by an amdram company at Leeds Grand in the mid 90s. Stunning staging and voices that were very West End worthy.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-04-26 03:21:22.0

JUST THOUGHT I'D BUMP THIS THREAD BACK UP BEING AS IT SEEMS IT MAY GET ANOTHER ADDITION SOMETIME SOON!!!

*** CHECK PAGE 5 FOR A CERTAIN ENTRY! *** lol


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by Scripps2 2008-04-26 11:15:20.0

Methinks Wicked has set this thread up with just one thing in mind.

Methinks Wicked has been itching to upload something for months.

Methinks I will mention some magic words and this thread will get deleted before he has chance to do so!!!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-04-28 09:47:50.0

Dont!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-06-07 07:37:40.0

'GONE WITH THE WIND'
New London Theatre, London. UK
Opened April 5th 2008
Closed June 14th 2008
Ran for 79 performances.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-06-07 07:38:34.0

Had to be done!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by songanddanceman2 2008-06-07 07:39:16.0

Oh i was gonna do this one the other day......but then i forgot lol


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by Scripps2 2008-06-07 07:44:30.0

He'd have killed you if you'd beaten him to it!!!

I can think of another mid 80s flop that I don't think is on this thread. When I get my theatre junk out of storage I shall upload something.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-06-07 07:48:11.0

How mid 80s?


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by Scripps2 2008-06-07 07:52:22.0

Early mid 80s! I'm not telling you what it is!!!!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-06-07 07:53:10.0

The year!
The list is in front of me!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-06-07 07:56:47.0

OK!
Something not already on here from the early 80s???
The Mitford Girls
One Night Stand
Jingle Jangle
Mata Hari
Yakety Yak
The Importance
The Cradle Will Rock

Thats up to 85 with a few odd little non starters!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by Scripps2 2008-06-07 08:06:30.0

I didn't realise The Mitford Girls wasn't on here either - I saw that - wasn't that a modest success rather than a flop though? It's none of the others either.

And the particular box has come out of storage so if I can master the tecnnology I'll be able to upload today.


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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-06-07 08:20:26.0

'THE MITFORD GIRLS'
Globe Theatre (now Gielgud)
Opened Oct 8th 1981
Closed Jan 9th 1982
Ran for 98 performances.

Devised by Ned Sherrin this was one of many musicals that transfered from the Festival Theatre in Chichester in the 80s. This being one of the least successful ones.
Terribly twee-not for me.
Cast recording available but only on LP. (one im not rushing to transfer just yet)


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Posted by Scripps2 2008-06-07 11:58:06.0

By restricting themselves to songs of the period they didn't do as much as they could have achieved with the potential drama in the family. My best memory of the show is Julia Sutton singing Other People's Babies.

Apparently the Dowager Duchess of Devonshire (nee Deborah Mitford - photograph below) refers to it as La Triviata.


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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-06-07 12:03:16.0

Bored me stupid but the set was gorgeous if i remember?
Julia Sutton cant put a foot wrong- she must be on 90% of my CD collection, bless her.


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Posted by Scripps2 2008-06-07 12:05:12.0

And now for the flop that Wickedboy forgot...



Dear Anyone
Cambridge Theatre
Opened: 8 November 1983
Closed: 7 January 1984 (I think)

This was a musical about an agony columnist who couldn’t get her own private life sorted out. There was a concept album released in the late 1970s with lyrics by Don Black and music by Geoff Stephens. It had a very 70s light rock feel to the orchestrations that weren’t really suitable for a stage musical and were replaced by much superior ones from what I can tell from the above single, which is as far as I know the only recording of the stage production.

I had the concept album for several years before sending it to a car boot sale, which I very much regret now. Maggie Moon (Name That Tune) was the agony aunt and Elaine Stritch, Murray Head, Steve Harley and Gemma Craven did cameos as correspondents to the agony column.



For the stage version Jane Lapotaire took on the role and sounds great on the above. Jack Rosenthal, undeterred by the high profile failure of Barmitzvah Boy, had another go at a book musical and Broadway veteran Stubby Kaye was in support. Ralph Koltai won rave reviews for his set (whereas in years to come he would share the blame for Carrie’s failure) but the critics felt the show lacked heart and mocked those it should empathise with. They were probably right but Don Black did the mocking in a very sharp and witty manner. This from one of the correspondents:

My thing is king-size.
Yeah, ding-a-ling wise,
I got reason to smirk.
It should be a blessing
But it’s kinda depressing
‘cos the damn thing doesn’t work.


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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-06-07 12:07:27.0

I must have thought about this one and never posted it- thanks for that! Did you see it Scripps?
I loved this show and managed to get to see it 3 times, a friend of mine Richard Kates was in it . It died a slow horrible death once the critics put their knife in.
Im still trying to find the concept LP of this.


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Posted by Scripps2 2008-06-07 12:14:44.0

That's three times more than me. I wanted to see it but the opportunity didn't arise (ie Mum and Dad wanted to see other things!).

Why are my .jpgs bigger than the single I scanned them from? I can never get my sizings right - they're always too big. I could solve that guy's problem!

And, yes, the set for The Mitford Girls was gorgeous - as I remember, two elegant spiral staircases connected by an elegant bridge. The staircases developed into palm trees I think.


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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-06-07 12:26:31.0

What happened to Ralph Kolti?
He did some amazing work back in the 70s and 80s.
Who had the chart hit with 'Ill Put You Together Again'- I'm think along the lines of someone like Stephanie DeSykes maybe???


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Posted by devonian.t 2008-06-07 12:26:39.0

It sounds much like the set up for Agony, the TV sitcom that starred Jack R's wife, Maureen.

Did one lead to the other?


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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-06-07 12:28:12.0

That always crossed my mind because they were very close together. There must be some connection because of Jack!


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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-06-07 12:32:06.0

The poor Cambridge theatre went onto a run of flops after 'Dear Anyone!' with 'The Rink', 'Sherlock Holmes' and 'Budgie' all not getting anywhere near triple digits!

When you go to a theatre does its history of flops go through your mind as your waiting to see if your about to see its next????


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Posted by Scripps2 2008-06-07 12:33:40.0

I think the TV series came a couple of years later.

Was it Hot Chocolate who had I'll Put You Together Again in the charts?

Stephanie de Sykes single of I Was Born With A Smile On My Face was one of the first recordings I ever got!


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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-06-07 12:34:50.0

Hot Chocolate yes! lol


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Posted by Scripps2 2008-06-07 12:38:46.0

The history of flops (or otherwise) at a particular theatre doesn't really affect me. It's more the history of flops on the Director or the Producer or the Composer's CV that influences my thinking.


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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-06-07 12:44:32.0

The TV series 'Agony' ran 1979 to 1981. I thought it was a lot earlier than that!


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Posted by Scripps2 2008-06-07 12:45:54.0

I thought it was later. Wasn't Maria Charles in it as a dotty mother?

1979 to 1981 probably explains why I can't remember seeing it - I was only allowed to watch adult-themed shows if my parents were interested in them.


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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-06-07 12:47:05.0

I sit in the Adelphi and think 'Jesus ,this is where i saw 'Beyond The Rainbow'!
I sit in the Aldwych and think 'Jesus, this is where i saw Fields Of Ambrosia'!
I sit in the Novello and think 'Jesus, did i see anything good here?'


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Posted by Scripps2 2008-06-07 13:01:08.0

The name changes confuse me. I can't remember whether the Novello was the Albery or the Coward was the Strand. And it's only after I started reading you guys posting on this site that I've begun to pay a lot more attention to the theater buildings themselves. For a long time it didn't make much of a difference to me which theatre the show was in. And I wouldn't have cared whether it was a 400 seat house or a 2000 seat house. So I often struggle to remember what I have seen in certain theatres.

The only theatre I've always been reverential about is Drury Lane. It should only be the very best Broadway musicals that go in there. Having said that, if that were the rule it would have been dark for most of the 1990s!


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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-06-07 13:05:32.0

I have that exact problem with the Albery and the Strand. If i post anything for them i kind a have to double check.
Regarding Drury Lane, up until the 80s that is exactly how the theatre was handled-the cream of Broadway would line up to play there and 99% of the time they did. Going to see a show there was an occasion. 'Mame' 'Billy' 'A Chorus Line' bring back solid memories of seeing an 'event' to me when i was young!


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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-06-07 13:07:09.0

I remember when '42nd St' put its feelers out and all over town was the buzz 'will it take The Lane'
I was working at the Dominion and they came and measured up there but we all knew it wouldn't go there. I remember lining up outside Drury Lane on the second or third day the bookings opened for nearly 2hrs to get tickets for its opening!
**The Producers measured up the Dominion 3 times when i was there for the original 'Dreamgirls' -say no more!


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Posted by exedore 2008-06-08 04:19:33.0

"When you go to a theatre does its history of flops go through your mind as your waiting to see if your about to see its next????"

Not usually, although it did happen the first time I saw Jersey Boys on Broadway. I had never been to the Virginia/August Wilson before, and found myself wishing the walls were still painted black and how exciting it must have been for the lighting drop at the beginning of Carrie.


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Posted by devonian.t 2008-06-08 07:01:55.0

Wick, did you see Cabaret at the Novello/ Strand. I thought Kelly Hunter was fantastic, and didn't mind the whole production, (although it is widely said that Kander & Ebb hated it)?


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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-06-08 08:04:35.0

I saw it and hated it. Very tacky production. The second time i saw it was when it was hit by production money problems and they got rid of the orchestra-the last few weeks the show played with just piano and drums!! Wayne Sleep was creepy as the MC but for all the wrong reasons!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by luke-h*** 2008-06-13 09:57:08.0

DANCE OF THE VAMPIRES
The Minskoff Theatre New York
Opened: December 9th 2002
Closed: January 25th 2003

How do I begin? You take a hugely succesful (and IMO near perfect) German musical, throw Michael Crwaford as the hugely demanding and terrifying vampire lead, drastically change the plot and theme according to the man who inisisted to not be type-cast in such roles, add a badly re-written Libretto that reminds us of a cheesey flop Mel Brook's film, put David Gallo's ugliest designs to date on the stage, cast the flat Mandy Gonzalez as the female lead and there you have it - The Dance of the Vampires, the most dissapointing and shocking translation and adaptation of any musical to date.
The original version is by far one of my favourite musicals, and will probably (much to my dissapointment) never be translated into English in all its Vampiric glory, thanks to this disastourous production. The fact that they even dared to call it Dance of the Vampires makes me cringe, and the fact that the original idea was to simply translate the perfect original production, and take it to Broadway makes me sooo angry! Here's an idea for you, fire Crawford and do the original plan! If that had happened, DOTV would hopefully still be going strong on Broadway (and maybe even London) today. This production lasted only 56 performances, and 61 previews which began October 16th 2002. There are several different recordings of the show in different Languages.
- 1997 Vienna CD (Highlights or Complete)
- 2007 Budapest CD (Under the title Vampirok Balja)
- 2007 10th Aniversary Concert CD
- 2006 Japanese Cast CD
- 2006 Polen Cast CD (Under the title Taniec Wampirow)
In addition to these there are lots of demo's for the Broadway production out there.


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Posted by WickedBoy2 2008-06-13 11:37:13.0

THanks Luke but this is a WEst End Flop thread.
If we did this to them, then the Bullies OF Broadway would be out sharpish. Thanks tho


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Posted by MamasDoin'Fine 2009-01-29 12:11:51.0


'Gone With The Wind'
New London Theatre
Oened April 22nd, 2009
Closed June 14th, 2008
79 perfs.

No cast recording



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Posted by MamasDoin'Fine 2009-01-29 12:16:57.0


'Imagine This'
New London Theatre.
Opened 19th Nov, 2008
Closed 20th Dec 2008
65 perfs

Cast Recording due Feb 2009


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by Acaila 2009-01-29 12:37:17.0

Heh cool thread!
I only have like three recordings mentioned though I think - obviously need to work on my flop collection!


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Posted by Scripps2 2009-01-29 17:35:07.0

Despite the controversy about the subject matter and the ethics of the piece, I think Imagine This was much better than Gone With the Wind.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by luke-h*** 2009-02-01 15:51:55.0

Children of Eden
by Stephen Schwartz & John Caird
Opened in London January 8th 1991, received poor reviews and closed the same year April 6th. A revised version premiered in New Jersey in 1997 and has become vastly popularamongst schools, community theatre societies etc. I've just finished a run in a local production of it, I was Abel and found it to be SUCH an amazingly gorgeous show. Shame it was such a flop, I'd love for a revival, perhaps in New York with Laura Benanti as Yonah. London cast recording is now out of print and EXTREMELY rare, but the 1997 New Jersey recording lives on...its awful. The show received a concert version in New York in 2003, it starred Julia Murney, Norm Lewis, Laura Benanti, Kate Shindle, Darius DeHaas and Max Von Essen. (Amongst others) I think this is one of Schwartz's best works, anybody know where it played in London?


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Posted by tommyslim 2009-02-02 08:35:22.0

Children of Eden played at the Prince Edward Theatre from 8th january 1991 - 6th april 1991


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by Phantom of London 2009-02-02 13:20:36.0

I really enjoyed reading through this thread, had fascinating info in here. If this thread was a book, I would buy it, if Mama signed it I buy 2.

I guess you can add Lord of the Rings to this, must be the biggest box office flop of all time?

I love to get the info on here and put it down on a spreadsheet!

I always thought the Shaftsbury Theatre was cursed, but this thread has put that to rest, it is official its the Piccadilly.

Thanks again for this thread.


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Posted by MamasDoin'Fine 2009-02-02 17:04:54.0

The book is due in April 2010.
Yes, i will sign it for you - thats an extra £3 for the Mama Needs Gin Appeal


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Posted by Phantom of London 2009-02-02 17:09:01.0

I would definitely buy that book, love those kind of info books.

Also glad the money is going to a good cause!


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Posted by MamasDoin'Fine 2009-02-10 05:18:09.0

'Zorro'


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Posted by songanddanceman2 2009-02-10 06:57:35.0

is Zorro a flop though, its budget was just over 2 million and the show has made over 11 million, Its running costs will have been tiny and the show also made a lot of money on tour


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Posted by MamasDoin'Fine 2009-02-10 08:17:40.0

Agreed, to be honest with you I felt wrong posting that 'Zorro' entry! Its now a hit!


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Posted by MamasDoin'Fine 2009-07-23 16:01:11.0


****NEW ENTRY! NEW ENTRY! NEW ENTRY!*****

Comedy Theatre, London.
Previewed: 16th July 2009
Opened: July 24th 2009
Closed: Aug 8th 2009
Number of perfs: 28 too many!









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Posted by Mister Matt 2009-07-23 16:49:10.0

I'm glad to hear Zorro is off the list. I was utterly charmed by the show. Too bad it will probably never see Broadway. I'd love to see it again.

As for Too Close to the Sun...well...was ANYONE expecting a hit?


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Posted by AudreyIII 2009-07-25 07:40:30.0

What about the classic 'All Bob's Women' at the Arts in 2008? Closed after 6 performances! I remember that they had advertising on the sides of phone boxes and literally the moment the glue had dried it was time to scrape them all off again!


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Posted by devonian.t 2009-07-27 08:34:25.0

I have searched high and low for artwork or production shots from Mike Reid's 'Wilde'. Anyone?


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Posted by MamasDoin'Fine 2009-07-27 10:02:48.0


I have the flier somewhere, will try and find it?


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Posted by MamasDoin'Fine 2011-01-13 10:28:24.0

**** BUMP *****

I thought it was a good time to bring back my thread from 2 or 3 years ago with all the talk of flops on the 'Out Of The Blue Thread'.
I was know as Wickedboy2 back then!!!!

A lot of the shows you new guys are asking about are on here and more .....
11 pages!
Enjoy!


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Posted by philitalia 2011-01-14 03:24:08.0

Thx, that was quite a good read.

Still a few to add, which - unless I missed them - didn't get a mention :
The One and Only - renamed The Roy Orbison story (Piccadilly)
Passion (Queen's)
Grand Hotel (Dominion)
Hot Shoe Shuffle (was it at the Queen's?)
Romance Romance - think it was at the then Globe (Gielgud)
Annie Get Your Gun (Prince of Wales) - no recording
South Pacific (Prince of Wales)
Do not know if it's to be considered a musical, but there was also a tribute to the music of Cole Porter (I think) at the Vaudeville some 25 years ago.




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Posted by bob8rich 2011-01-14 07:43:57.0

The Baker's Wife was not flop at Chichester - that's why it transferred to the West End, when unfortunately - now called The Director's Wife by many, it did not repeat its Chichester success.

And the p
Papermill staging a few years ago was a resounding success with audiences. I was blessed to have seen this production. Alice Ripley was phenomenal and it's still one of the best shows I've seen. (And it's my fav Schwartz score.)


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Posted by twinbelters 2011-01-14 15:53:07.0

Cool! Will have to dig through this thread soon. Thanks.


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Posted by Scripps2 2011-01-14 17:16:29.0

I thought this had been deleted in one of the purges.

Pleased to see it's still here.


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Posted by MusicalBoy 2011-01-14 18:21:49.0

Was Passion at the Queens a flop? I'm assuming, the original london production (nothing else it could have been, well done MusicalBoy! *thuds head on desk*)


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Posted by MamasDoin'Fine 2011-09-23 06:05:56.0

WHAT A PORKER!



'Betty Blue Eyes'

The Ivor Novello Theatre, London.

Opened 13th April 2011.
Previewed from 19th March 2011.
Closed on 24th Sept 2011.

Number of perfs TBC


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Posted by ClapYo'Hands 2011-09-23 06:17:55.0



'Lend Me A Tenor'

Gielgud Theatre, London.

Opened 15th June 2011.
Previewed from 2nd June 2011.
Closed on 6th August 2011


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Posted by MamasDoin'Fine 2011-09-23 06:19:40.0

Thanks!
If you know the number of performances for the above two, let me know.


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Posted by Phantom of London 2011-09-23 08:47:22.0

Oh Boy, that is a name from the past, I wonder what ever happened to 'Wickedboy2'? Any clues Mama, you two used to be close, are you still in contact?


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Posted by philitalia 2011-09-23 09:40:14.0

I had the impression, from what Mama wrote earlier " I was know as Wickedboy2 back then!!!! ", that Mama and Wickedboy2 were one and the same person.


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Posted by MamasDoin'Fine 2011-09-23 10:00:28.0

;~)


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Posted by ClapYo'Hands 2011-09-23 13:53:17.0

Betty will be something like 654 when she closes, but I'm not exactly sure :S


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Posted by devonian.t 2011-09-23 13:58:18.0

I think you'll find it is less than 250...


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Posted by MamasDoin'Fine 2011-09-23 13:58:37.0

No, a six month run comes into 200's


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Posted by Scripps2 2011-09-23 14:14:22.0

Clap yo' hands and count those fingers...


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Posted by ClapYo'Hands 2011-09-23 14:17:25.0

Sorry, I meant 254...it's been a long day...lol.

EDIT: By my working's out, Betty will have done 216 performances by Saturday...


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Posted by ClapYo'Hands 2011-09-23 14:36:35.0

Just worked out what I think is Lend Me A Tenor's number: 76


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Posted by Phantom of London 2011-09-23 18:31:21.0

As said on a similar thread before, your skills are wasted on here and should be published.
,
It would be great to have a book similar to Broadway Musicals 'Show By Show'm which is in its sixth edition, a great reference resource even though it is missing some key shows.


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Posted by TBFL 2011-09-23 20:48:50.0

Tess Of The Durbervilles - Savoy Theatre

Previewed 30th October, opened 10 November 1999,
closed 8 January 2000

I cant believe that they actually bothered with a 6 track recording, One of the worst things i have ever seen. Like most of the few that were there, i fled at the interval.


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Posted by TBFL 2011-09-23 20:49:12.0

repeat


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Posted by MamasDoin'Fine 2011-09-23 20:50:28.0

I actually approached a publisher 2 years ago and they jumped back at me really fast but they needed more info on the shows which, of course, i was more than happy to do, but it is rather painstaking. It takes ages to confirm opening dates, performance numbers etc etc.
I'm still working on it but the money offered is nit worth the speed they want it at, they'll get it when i'm good and ready.

The West End Musicals Year By Year thread I've started will be completely updated with intimate details on every show listed as soon as I've completed the 60's thread.


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by TBFL 2011-09-23 20:52:10.0

'Hard Times' The Musical -
Book, music and lyrics by Christopher Tookey and Hugh Thomas. From the novel by Charles Dickens

Theatre Royal, Haymarket - Opened 6 June, 2000. Closed 4 August, 2000

A big cast, a big turd, i left at the interval. again.


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Posted by TBFL 2011-09-23 20:59:46.0

Mama, I Want To Sing

January 27, 1995


Mama, I Want to Sing
plays its first preview at the Cambridge Theatre in London’s West End, February 1, 1995
opens officially at the Cambridge Theatre, June 14, 1995 (though i cant believe it previewed for that long)

transfers to the Gielgud Theatre in London.

Cast albumn released


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Posted by MamasDoin'Fine 2011-09-23 21:11:47.0

If I didnt cover the above tow, I need a slap!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by TBFL 2011-09-24 01:02:30.0

Hard times was actually covered elsewhere in this thread, but not Tess of the ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz...... nor Mama i wanna turn down the volume....

A slap coming your way!

Budgie should get a decent mention - i actually listen to bits of it quite often!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by devonian.t 2011-09-24 08:51:16.0

There is definitely a book in this Mama!

And tbfl (what does that stand for) totally agree about Budgie:

In One of My weaker Moments
They're Naked and They Move
If It Wasn't for the Side Effects
We Used to be Marie, Doris and Jane

are first class numbers any show would be lucky to have!


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by TBFL 2011-09-24 11:35:09.0

TBFL - The Boy From London (hello!)

I never had the pleasure/misfortune to see Budgie, but the songs you mentioned are the only ones i have transferred to my itunes, as well as There is love and there is love, which i think fits their characters quite well.

I dont recall seeing it but surely someone has mentioned Bernadette?? It doesnt have a cast recording, but it does have a terrible 80's synths and guitars sounding studio albumn, which has Ruthie Henshall on it singing 'have another' (awful!) though there are 1 or 2 i like from it. I even have the single of 'who are you' lol

The Far Pavillions has a cast recording. Should be counted, if not better best forgotten.

I know it ran for about 18 months - but isnt Bombay Dreams considered a flop??


re: 'Oh Dear! What A 'Carrie' On!'
Posted by devonian.t 2011-09-26 12:40:44.0

I just listened to the Budgie CD again- I'd forgotten "If That Baby Could Talk" and "I Like That In a Man".

Classic lost score.

And yes, Bombay DReams closed at a loss.