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Riedel on London plays possibly transferring

Riedel on London plays possibly transferring

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Kad
#2Riedel on London plays possibly transferring
Posted: 5/10/17 at 11:16am

Angels seems like a no-brainer transfer even as a repertory production. We got Wolf Hall and a double Shakespeare bill, neither of which had names as big as Lane or Garfield. It would sell like hotcakes.


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#3Riedel on London plays possibly transferring
Posted: 5/10/17 at 11:31am

I agree with Riedel that Lincoln Center's the best place for Angels, but my god that anonymous producer's an idiot. Lane and Garfield would make it a blockbuster, and I doubt most audience members are familiar enough with the two plays to have an opinion about the relative quality of Perestroika.

The Kid Stays in the Picture sounds interesting, but in no way commercially viable whatsoever.

The Ferryman is making waves and will no doubt come over eventually. Also would not be surprised if the Glenda Jackson Lear, Staunton Gypsy, Tom Hollander Travesties, or Fiennes/Redgrave Richard III transfer.

Updated On: 5/10/17 at 11:31 AM

smidge
#4Riedel on London plays possibly transferring
Posted: 5/10/17 at 11:56am

Any chance of Rosencrantz transferring?

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#5Riedel on London plays possibly transferring
Posted: 5/10/17 at 12:31pm

On paper, Angels makes sense. But having seen Part 2 - which I quite enjoyed - it's a MASSIVE production. The beginning of Act 2 the entire set is pulled back and swallowed up, and the entire front edge of the stage is a giant trap door. There's flying, there's pyro. There are multiple big set pieces that slide on and off. It would only make sense at Lincoln Center, but they have My Fair Lady coming, so I doubt it would be this upcoming season. 

10086sunset
#6Riedel on London plays possibly transferring
Posted: 5/10/17 at 12:38pm

Kad said: "Angels seems like a no-brainer transfer even as a repertory production. We got Wolf Hall and a double Shakespeare bill, neither of which had names as big as Lane or Garfield. It would sell like hotcakes."

 

I tend to agree that it would sell like hotcakes.

JVJ93
#7Riedel on London plays possibly transferring
Posted: 5/10/17 at 12:48pm

M.O.A.I. said: "I agree with Riedel that Lincoln Center's the best place for Angels, but my god that anonymous producer's an idiot. Lane and Garfield would make it a blockbuster, and I doubt most audience members are familiar enough with the two plays to have an opinion about the relative quality of Perestroika.

The Kid Stays in the Picture sounds interesting, but in no way commercially viable whatsoever.

The Ferryman is making waves and will no doubt come over eventually. Also would not be surprised if the Glenda Jackson Lear, Staunton Gypsy, Tom Hollander Travesties, or Fiennes/Redgrave Richard III transfer.


 

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I have on good authority that Staunton's Gypsy and King Lear with Jackson are both coming to NY next season 

nasty_khakis
#8Riedel on London plays possibly transferring
Posted: 5/10/17 at 12:54pm

That production of Gypsy was so lack-luster. I love Imelda as an actress but she only played the role as angry start to finish. It didn't help her Herbie and Louise really paled in comparison to Boyd Gains and Laura Benanti. I saw it in London and thought I was crazy for not enjoying it at all but most NY theatre types I know who saw the screening didn't care for it either. I don't see it doing that well here.

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#9Riedel on London plays possibly transferring
Posted: 5/10/17 at 12:57pm

Glenda's Lear also strikes me as a production best suited for a limited run at BAM. The production was so bizarre, I don't see it doing well on Broadway, even with her name attached. Similarly, I think The Kid Stays in the Picture would be more suited to one of the big off-Bway non-profits, like the Public, the Signature, or St. Ann's.

I don't see Travesties transferring, but Staunton's Gypsy could definitely do well, as well as the Ferryman. Richard III might be problem with Redgrave's age, but I guess Fiennes could always do it without her. Still, I doubt it will come over, given that it's been almost a year with no word, and it didn't even transfer to the West End (I know, I know, that didn't stop American Psycho, but still)

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#10Riedel on London plays possibly transferring
Posted: 5/10/17 at 1:00pm

A Gypsy revival in NY might fare as well as The Glass Menagerie did this season. It's coming too soon, and coming right after a very good production. (In fairness, it has been longer since Gypsy was last around, but still).

I would love for the Angels production to come to Vivian-Beaumont but in lieu of that, *cue gasps* Marquee could be interesting. Considering the apparent scale of this production.


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#11Riedel on London plays possibly transferring
Posted: 5/10/17 at 1:07pm

I know there was talk of the Staunton Gypsy being produced by Roundabout. If that's the case, there's no risk of a flop there.


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sondmon
#12Riedel on London plays possibly transferring
Posted: 5/10/17 at 1:20pm

Staunton is doing virginia woolf now and follies in September-seems a bit much for a spring gypsy but who knows. I would love for her to come to Broadway but hopefully in something else.

 

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#13Riedel on London plays possibly transferring
Posted: 5/10/17 at 1:20pm

Jackson's Lear could probably be successful in a moderately sized playhouse. From what I understand, it's rather a Brechtian/minimalist production, so I can't imagine a huge budget? I don't know how viable Travesties is, but Baz Bamigboye reported it was looking to transfer. It's been a year for Richard, yes, but Fiennes likely has a lot of film commitments, so it's hard to say why it didn't transfer to the West End. Redgrave's age is, of course, a problem.

As for the Staunton Gypsy, I know it's reviled on these boards because of its recording, but I'm inclined to believe London reviewers who saw it in the theater. (Although of course there are those in this thread and elsewhere who saw it live and didn't care for it.) But I thought Roundabout is almost certain to do Kiss Me, Kate with Kelli O'Hara this season?

I can't imagine what with Junk and My Fair Lady at the Beaumont that LCT could squeeze in Angels in America this year. Either it would have to wait for next season, or they'd have to rent another house a la Falsettos or The Glass Menagerie. No doubt Rudin or another commercial producer would jump at the chance to co-produce.

Agreed, The Kid Stays in the Picture should run at BAM, the Public, etc.

nasty_khakis
#14Riedel on London plays possibly transferring
Posted: 5/10/17 at 1:47pm

Kelli is doing an opera at the MET next Spring so Kiss Me Kate will have to wait, if it's happening at all.

I saw Gypsy in the theatre. She was angry and lack-luster and almost seemed like she was just doing a speed through rushing through all the scenes. Her Lovett, though remains a marvel I had to see two days in a row.

kaykordeath
#15Riedel on London plays possibly transferring
Posted: 5/10/17 at 2:00pm

And I'm just sitting here waiting for Rosencratnz and Guildenstern with Daniel Radcliffe.....

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#16Riedel on London plays possibly transferring
Posted: 5/10/17 at 2:29pm

nasty_khakis - have you seen Carolee Carmello's Lovett yet? She's phenomenal.

Junk is a while away. It's possible that they can move it to another house to make room for Angels, if they think latter's a better fit there. Depends on the kind of contracts they have with these shows. While a beautiful house, Vivian-Beaumont is far enough from the Times Sq. that a new play might want to move to attract more foot traffic. This line of argument might not be relevant at all since LCT is a non-profit with a built in subscriber base as I have been reminded several times on this board, but a girl can dream.


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kingfan011
#17Riedel on London plays possibly transferring
Posted: 5/10/17 at 2:31pm

I'm surprised that Rosencrantz wouldn't be transferring. It got good reviews and Broadway likes Radcliffe.

JVJ93
#18Riedel on London plays possibly transferring
Posted: 5/10/17 at 2:46pm

Updated On: 5/10/17 at 02:46 PM

nasty_khakis
#19Riedel on London plays possibly transferring
Posted: 5/10/17 at 2:51pm

Rosencrantz might purely depend on Radcliff's schedule and desire to keep doing it. Also, I don't think Cripple of Inishmaan was a financial hit so his name alone in a straight play might not carry that much weight now.

I have seen Carolee's and enjoyed her very much, but Staunton's haunts me. Emma Thompson also remains in my favorite Lovetts purely for finding line readings I'd never heard before and taking a completely different approach.

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#20Riedel on London plays possibly transferring
Posted: 5/10/17 at 2:58pm

Angels in America has clearly been designed to go into a larger conventional Broadway proscenium stage.  It will have no problem re-scaling; at times it looks quite sparse in the Lyttleton.

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#21Riedel on London plays possibly transferring
Posted: 5/10/17 at 3:12pm

Valentina3 said: "nasty_khakis - have you seen Carolee Carmello's Lovett yet? She's phenomenal.

Junk is a while away. It's possible that they can move it to another house to make room for Angels, if they think latter's a better fit there. Depends on the kind of contracts they have with these shows. While a beautiful house, Vivian-Beaumont is far enough from the Times Sq. that a new play might want to move to attract more foot traffic. This line of argument might not be relevant at all since LCT is a non-profit with a built in subscriber base as I have been reminded several times on this board, but a girl can dream.
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I'll point out that LCT does not technically have a subscriber base. They have members, but those members do not purchase a package of tickets the way the other Broadway non-profits do. So it's not a 100% guarantee that all of their members will see a particular production. It was actually a big question as to whether their members would turn out for the Broadway mounting of Oslo, as many of them probably saw it last year at the Newhouse.

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#22Riedel on London plays possibly transferring
Posted: 5/10/17 at 4:43pm

If both Rosencrantz and Travesties transfer, I would die of happiness. Stoppard is the last great wit of the western world.


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cam5y
#23Riedel on London plays possibly transferring
Posted: 5/10/17 at 5:11pm

I loved Staunton's performance in Gypsy (I thought she had many more notes than just angry) but agree that it would not transfer well. She's appeared in a number of American roles where she's great but the supporting cast is dodgy (I hear the supporting cast's accents from Good People in my nightmares) and this would be no exception.

I also didn't think Rosencrantz was all that great (static and dull, apart from David Haig) and don't think it would transfer well. I love, love, love Tom Hollander and adored Travesties, but it's a very niche piece. 

On a positive note, the NT Angels is phenomenal (both parts, in my opinion) and would transfer exceptionally well, especially with that cast. And I cannot say enough good things about The Ferryman & hope you get to see it sooner rather than later. Fiennes' Richard III was great and doesn't need Redgrave to transfer. Glenda Jackson's Lear was wonderful, but she is not exactly young herself.

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#24Riedel on London plays possibly transferring
Posted: 5/10/17 at 5:41pm

I presume Staunton and maybe Lara Pulver would be the only cast members to transfer.

JBC3
#25Riedel on London plays possibly transferring
Posted: 5/10/17 at 5:47pm

I loved Angels at Signature in 2010, but the London production is simply stunning. We need it here live.