Nancy Pelosi
Nancy Pelosi
#1Nancy Pelosi
Posted: 4/23/17 at 6:00pm
Am I the only one tired of seeing her? Wanted to shed skin when I saw her today on MTP.
Stephanatic
#2Nancy Pelosi
Posted: 4/23/17 at 6:08pm
Yes, you're the only one. She is a very effective leader for House Dems as clearly demonstrated by last few months. She has a clear agenda, and does not mince words. We can use more leaders like Pelosi.
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#3Nancy Pelosi
Posted: 4/23/17 at 8:17pm
I agree Valentina. Not sure where all of this hatred comes from with Pelosi.
#4Nancy Pelosi
Posted: 4/23/17 at 10:08pm
She's great, but it's time for more youthful leaders to rise in the ranks. That's where democrats fail. There aren't many young people within the actual party. The other day I was having a very difficult time of thinking of women who are on the younger side and can easily run for president. Couldn't think of one.
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#5Nancy Pelosi
Posted: 4/23/17 at 10:25pm
Can't fricken stand her. Back when I worked on the Hill, I dreaded any interaction my team had to have with her. Now, I hate that she is still in any position of power, especially after the Democratic party failed constituents the past 2 years.
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#6Nancy Pelosi
Posted: 4/24/17 at 2:23am
She took a 79 seat majority in the House in 2008 and a clear mandate and in 8 years turned it into the 47 seat deficit we have today. A 126 seat swing. While that's not all her fault and there are many reasons for that, she sure owns her share of the blame. If she cared more about the party than about continuing to keep her power, she would have stepped away from the leadership role after the shocking ineptness of the 2016 house elections, but she clearly doesn't. This is the fundamental problem with the Democratic party right now. The mindset is "Nah, let's just keep doing exactly what we've been doing and it will all turn out fine. We'll get 'em next time." I was a big fan of her once, but she has proven herself to be tone deaf and her time has past. As far as the Congressional Democratic leadership pushing back on Trump, Schumer is doing all the heavy lifting.
#7Nancy Pelosi
Posted: 4/24/17 at 10:10am
Schumer is in the Senate, not Congress. The lifting he is doing is differently felt than Pelosi, and more visibly so far since Senate's job is front-loaded with various confirmation hearings for the incoming President's nominees. Pelosi's only real challenge under Trump was the AHCA bill, and to a certain extent the ISP stuff which Democrats in general were not too thrilled to spend energy on. She still whipped all Dems (bar faux-Dems who're basically GOP) to vote against that bill. There's tax reform, new budget, and border wall bill coming up - let's see what she does with those.
There's also a confusing narrative about a House majority/minority leader's job as someone who decides direction of the party in terms of election resource allocation. The DNC as a whole is to blame for party's embarrassing loss, not Pelosi. She does share some blame, but not nearly enough to "go away". If anything, I'd like to see her make up for her mistakes by staying and fighting, using her experience and resources as only she can. You don't fire someone because they have too much experience.
As for younger, youthful leaders who can take over - Kristen G, Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris, Cory Booker, Ted Lieu, Keith Ellison, Adam Schiff (I can go on, but I'd say we can expect a future Presidential candidate in of any of these people). Granted, some of them have held office for quite sometime now, but they're all pretty vocal post-2016.
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#8Nancy Pelosi
Posted: 4/24/17 at 11:19am
The Senate is part of Congress. With Pelosi it's time for a new face. She is almost as repulsive to many people as Clinton was. We're not going to get back Independents with these old school Dems in our leadership in the mix.
Stephanatic
Updated On: 4/24/17 at 11:19 AM
#9Nancy Pelosi
Posted: 4/24/17 at 11:31am
Pelosi was good at her job, but the Dems need new leadership, preferably someone who is not a senior citizen.
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UncleCharlie
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#10Nancy Pelosi
Posted: 4/24/17 at 1:24pm
Valentina3 said: "Schumer is in the Senate, not Congress. The lifting he is doing is differently felt than Pelosi, and more visibly so far since Senate's job is front-loaded with various confirmation hearings for the incoming President's nominees. Pelosi's only real challenge under Trump was the AHCA bill, and to a certain extent the ISP stuff which Democrats in general were not too thrilled to spend energy on. She still whipped all Dems (bar faux-Dems who're basically GOP) to vote against that bill. There's tax reform, new budget, and border wall bill coming up - let's see what she does with those.
There's also a confusing narrative about a House majority/minority leader's job as someone who decides direction of the party in terms of election resource allocation. The DNC as a whole is to blame for party's embarrassing loss, not Pelosi. She does share some blame, but not nearly enough to "go away". If anything, I'd like to see her make up for her mistakes by staying and fighting, using her experience and resources as only she can. You don't fire someone because they have too much experience.
As for younger, youthful leaders who can take over - Kristen G, Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris, Cory Booker, Ted Lieu, Keith Ellison, Adam Schiff (I can go on, but I'd say we can expect a future Presidential candidate in of any of these people). Granted, some of them have held office for quite sometime now, but they're all pretty vocal post-2016.
I think you're laboring under a large number of misconceptions, not the least of which is that the Senate is not part of Congress. As leader of the Democrats in the House, if you think she doesn't influence the DNC in how they support House races, I think you are very mistaken. More than anything else, your entire frame of reference about her performance seems to be roughly 4 months. Mine is 8 years. Time for her to go.
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#11Nancy Pelosi
Posted: 4/24/17 at 1:41pm
Valentina3 said: "Schumer is in the Senate, not Congress. The lifting he is doing is differently felt than Pelosi, and more visibly so far since Senate's job is front-loaded with various confirmation hearings for the incoming President's nominees. Pelosi's only real challenge under Trump was the AHCA bill, and to a certain extent the ISP stuff which Democrats in general were not too thrilled to spend energy on. She still whipped all Dems (bar faux-Dems who're basically GOP) to vote against that bill. There's tax reform, new budget, and border wall bill coming up - let's see what she does with those.
There's also a confusing narrative about a House majority/minority leader's job as someone who decides direction of the party in terms of election resource allocation. The DNC as a whole is to blame for party's embarrassing loss, not Pelosi. She does share some blame, but not nearly enough to "go away". If anything, I'd like to see her make up for her mistakes by staying and fighting, using her experience and resources as only she can. You don't fire someone because they have too much experience.
As for younger, youthful leaders who can take over - Kristen G, Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris, Cory Booker, Ted Lieu, Keith Ellison, Adam Schiff (I can go on, but I'd say we can expect a future Presidential candidate in of any of these people). Granted, some of them have held office for quite sometime now, but they're all pretty vocal post-2016.
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So much misinformation in this post. Where does one begin? Also, how old are you?
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#12Nancy Pelosi
Posted: 4/24/17 at 5:58pm
Nancy Pelosi? Proud to have her represent my State and my country.
The overt ageism exhibited here is disturbing.
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#13Nancy Pelosi
Posted: 4/24/17 at 6:44pm
Cat Guy said: "Nancy Pelosi? Proud to have her represent my State and my country.
The overt ageism exhibited here is disturbing.
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Right. Ageism. Okay, "Cat Guy" (who were you previously?)
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#15Nancy Pelosi
Posted: 4/25/17 at 10:44am
How original! Thanks for posting from another sock puppet account. :)
#16Nancy Pelosi
Posted: 4/25/17 at 6:29pm
Who cares if they are young or old. It's about strong leaders who know what they're doing, and who know how to fight back against Trump.
#17Nancy Pelosi
Posted: 4/25/17 at 7:00pm
If the rest of Independent America is repulsed by Pelosi, like they were Clinton isn't that an issue? I would like PJ to comment on this. He who obviously thought disgust of Clinton was a fallacy.
Stephanatic
