United States v. Trump- Page 2

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 8/26/23 at 1:26pm

I just wish people voted on competency and not popularity. This is not Big Brother. The reasoning seems to be that the VP is not popular because of racism and misogyny so let's discard her. We need somebody warmer. More appealing to Middle America. More Laura Bush-y. A good wife, not somebody with a mind of her own. These women are getting above their station. At least get a blonde if nothing else. Sad.

[Zeppie2022]

Posted: 8/26/23 at 3:45pm

"More appealing to Middle America. More Laura Bush-y. A good wife, not somebody with a mind of her own. These women are getting above their station. At least get a blonde if nothing else. Sad."

I seem to remember some woman who won the Democratic nomination in 2016 who had a mind of her own. You could never confuse Hillary Clinton with Laura Bush.

"I just wish people voted on competency and not popularity. This is not Big Brother. The reasoning seems to be that the VP is not popular because of racism and misogyny so let's discard her."

So are you trying to say Democratic voters who failed to support her run for POTUS was because of racism and misogyny? 

 

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 8/26/23 at 4:06pm

Not entirely, but yes. Definitely yes. After the burn of Hillary Rodham Clinton... the safest option was of course a older white man. Anyone will do. Anybody else running against a MAGA candidate would have been far far too risky. Let's not pretend they didn't consider this.

[Pauly3]

Posted: 8/26/23 at 5:14pm

Jay Lerner-Z said: "Marjorie Taylor Greene would be worse than Kamala Harris. In fact, anybody willing to run with Donald Trump is automatically worse purely on that basis alone. What exactly is wrong with Kamala anyway? Nothing, except she is not popular. Which is totally unfair and unwarranted. Normally the VP pick is totally irrelevant anyhow, because it is usually a totally unimportant job. The difference this time being that the two frontrunner candidates are elderly men with limited time left on this earth."

I don't think Trump will select Taylor Greene for his VP, but if he does it will be to his detriment.  Willing to be Trump's VP does not automatically make that person worse than Harris.  To suggest otherwise only demonstrates anger and hatred of Trump and does not effectively address the point.  The point is how moderates and Republicans who do not like Trump might vote, not how you and like-minded people might vote.

Kamala Harris, too many times, embarrasses herself when getting in front of a microphone.  She, too often, demonstrates how out of her element she is.  Early on, her interview with Lester Holt about (not) going to the border was astonishingly bad.  She inspires zero confidence that she can accomplish anything at the border, and that sentiment extends to most any other topic she is asked about.  And that, both her speaking and subsequent reaction, has not improved since the Lester Holt interview.  Republicans are far from alone in this regard.  And the VP pick this time is relevant, being the 2024 VP will not be far off from possibly becoming the president.  Unlike Biden's VP, Trump's VP may be someone a majority of voters would vote for.  Maybe.

Kamala Harris isn't unpopular because of her race.  It's because the term buffoon comes to mind, too often, when she speaks, not unlike with similar experiences with Dan Quayle, Sarah Palin, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Donald Trump and Joe Biden.

 

[Zeppie2022]

Posted: 8/26/23 at 11:40pm

"Kamala Harris isn't unpopular because of her race.  It's because the term buffoon comes to mind, too often, when she speaks, not unlike with similar experiences with Dan Quayle, Sarah Palin, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Donald Trump and Joe Biden."

Exactly. Excellent examples of some of the buffoons we have had in office which is quite sad.

"Unlike Biden's VP, Trump's VP may be someone a majority of voters would vote for.  Maybe."

Trump might pick somebody like Nikki Haley and while liberals would not like her obviously, independent voters would probably like her more than Trump -lmao.

[ACL2006]

Posted: 8/27/23 at 10:47am

Nikki Haley threw Trump under the bus several times during the debates. I doubt she's a top pick to be his VP now. Trump could easily pick someone not running against him like MTG or Lauren Boeber.

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 8/27/23 at 3:54pm

Don't confuse 2023 Trump with 2016 Trump. As bad as he was in 2016, he's even worse now. He won't be sedated into picking an establishment running mate this time, or establishment staff. Seditionist MAGAists all the way. There's no way Nikki Haley or anybody else halfway sane would get the VP job. Don't be surprised if he picks Donald Junior as Veep.

[kdogg36]

Posted: 8/28/23 at 12:03pm

Pauly3 said: "Willing to be Trump's VP does not automatically make that person worse than Harris."

Oh, yes, it most certainly does. I say this as a libertarian who didn't vote for any Democrat until 2016, but has been driven decisively in that direction since the rise of Trumpism.

"To suggest otherwise only demonstrates anger and hatred of Trump and does not effectively address the point."

Hatred and anger are the only attitudes any sane person could have regarding Trump and his supporters.

"Kamala Harris isn't unpopular because of her race."

In the context of the current political climate, she's not particularly unpopular; see my post 24. As I said there, I doubt there are any potential VPs on either side who are doing much better than her eleven-point unpopularity gap nationally.

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 8/28/23 at 2:33pm

"Kamala Harris isn't unpopular because of her race."

The TWO major reasons people like you and other assholes hate her is due to her race and gender. To DECIDE that she isn't unpopular due to her race? Did you just talk to everyone in Kentucky? Like, how could you possibly know that? Oh wait.........you don't.

You come around before every election cycle yet you don't comment on the main board nor do you ever attend theater apparently. Your bulls*it opinions are not welcome here. Thanks so much. 

Kamala Harris is incredible. She is smart and works hard. She personally visited my Cousin in the hospital after he was injured in the Buffalo shooting last year. He was white and survived because the racist shooter wanted it that way. Anyways, she was lovely and I have endless respect for her.

Wonder if Ted Cruz or Josh Hawley ever get called out for being cold. Hmmmm..........

[Zeppie2022]

Posted: 8/28/23 at 5:19pm

"To DECIDE that she isn't unpopular due to her race? Did you just talk to everyone in Kentucky? Like, how could you possibly know that? Oh wait.........you don't."

As I said to Jay Lerner-Z, are you telling me that Democratic voters who thought so little of her she dropped out of the Presidential race in 2020 before the first primary are racist? So, the same country who elected Obama POTUS twice hate a Democratic VP because of her race - really. 

"She personally visited my Cousin in the hospital after he was injured in the Buffalo shooting last year. He was white and survived because the racist shooter wanted it that way. Anyways, she was lovely, and I have endless respect for her."

That is a very nice personal story, but nobody posted on this thread that she was an evil person.

"Wonder if Ted Cruz or Josh Hawley ever get called out for being cold. Hmmmm.........."

These two Senators get called every nasty name you can think of in the dictionary so that may not be a good example.

[Pauly3]

Posted: 8/28/23 at 7:36pm

Sutton Ross said: "The TWO major reasons people like you and other assholes hate her is due to her race and gender. To DECIDE that she isn't unpopular due to her race? Did you just talk to everyone in Kentucky? Like, how could you possibly know that? Oh wait.........you don't."

You ask how I can possibly know Harris isn't unpopular due to her race, but in the sentence preceding that one you claim to know specific reasons why people like me hate her.  I don't hate her.  I think she is a baffoon, and I think others do too, and THAT is the reason she is unpopular.  It's an opinion.  You have something in common with Harris.  And people around here dislike you because of this type of buffoonishness you're so willing to demonstrate, not because of your race, gender or other irrelevant attributes.

"You come around before every election cycle yet you don't comment on the main board nor do you ever attend theater apparently. Your bulls*it opinions are not welcome here. Thanks so much."

I lost most interest in posting on the main board a long time ago.  I like to view opinions different than my own, and coming to the off topic forum here guarantees me I will find just that.  I know this is novel concept for you, and you likely consider it an appalling concept.   But that would surprise no one.  I don't care if my opinions are welcome here or not.  Buffoons such as you won't change how, when or why I participate here.

"Kamala Harris is incredible. She is smart and works hard. She personally visited my Cousin in the hospital after he was injured in the Buffalo shooting last year. He was white and survived because the racist shooter wanted it that way. Anyways, she was lovely and I have endless respect for her.

Wonder if Ted Cruz or Josh Hawley ever get called out for being cold. Hmmmm.........."

Nice anecdote.  I don't share your admiration for Harris though.  And neither do millions of voters, which I think is more than do think she is competent.  If I'm wrong, I will be fine with that.  Again, an appalling concept in your world, eh?

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 8/29/23 at 9:25am

What is a baffoon? A word buffoons use?

[Pauly3]

Posted: 8/29/23 at 12:07pm

ErikJ972, your quip is no more clever than had I asked Sutton Ross, "what is an asshole?  A word assholes use?"  Which would have been ludicrous.

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 8/29/23 at 12:33pm

ErikJ972 said: "What is a baffoon? A word buffoons use?"

HAHAHAHA. Great catch. It's what racist assholes use to describe Women of Color, like Kamala of course. I will never read user Pauly's responses to me since he is TRYING TO ASSERT HIS MALE DOMINANCE BY PUTTING IT ALL IN BOLD. Hilarious. White trash is the cutest. 

Nice flag, Pauly. Trying to overcompensate for something? Eh?



 

Updated On: 8/29/23 at 12:33 PM

[Pauly3]

Posted: 8/29/23 at 1:20pm

Sutton Ross, not unlike a buffoonish coward, you avoid the points made and instead argue with irrelevant falsehoods.  I responded to more than one comment of yours, so I used bold text to more easily separate my comments from yours. I didn't know you were a woman.  Seriously.  Regardless, only the likes of you and your buffoonish ilk will read nonsense into every little thing.  You see yourself as a victim and argue from the standpoint of a victim, because else you would have nothing to say.  And unlike a reasonable person, you won't consider the possibility you were beaten on the merits. RuhhRho, should I be more careful with my words?  Are you so fragile that plain language that has an obvious non-nefarious intent "wounds" you?  Why is merit your and your ilk's Kryptonite?  Why do you so willingly let it be?

 

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 9/5/23 at 4:55pm

I had completely blocked out Kari Lake. Rolling Stone says it is between her and MTG. Horrific.

[Zeppie2022]

Posted: 9/5/23 at 7:03pm

"I had completely blocked out Kari Lake. Rolling Stone says it is between her and MTG. Horrific."

You do understand that Rolling Stone magazine is a very liberal leaning magazine, so they are not going to actually try and be neutral about anything regarding Trump. That being said, both of those ladies would be horrible choices and would not have any appeal to anybody who does not wear a MAGA hat. For all you liberals, pray Rolling Stone is correct about those choices.

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 9/5/23 at 7:25pm

Would you actually vote for Trump, Zeppie?

[Zeppie2022]

Posted: 9/5/23 at 8:44pm

"Would you actually vote for Trump, Zeppie?"

If we have another Trump vs Biden, I would once again "waste" my vote on some 3rd party candidate. 

[Highland Guy]

Posted: 9/6/23 at 10:09am

The first televised hearing of Trump's Georgia subversion case is today.

[ACL2006]

Posted: 9/8/23 at 3:11pm

It's absolutely baffling that 60% of Republicans still support #45 despite all the stuff going on currently.