When charisma > talent
When charisma > talent
sng
Featured Actor Joined: 6/7/15
#1When charisma > talent
Posted: 5/22/16 at 2:13pm
who do u think are famous for their charisma and stage presence instead of singing or acting talent? I would say top of the list are Carol Channing and Harvey Feinstein
#2When charisma > talent
Posted: 5/22/16 at 3:35pm
I have to say Madonna holds the title.
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#3When charisma > talent
Posted: 5/22/16 at 4:37pm
Not theater talent but I think Taylor Swift fits in well here.
To a lesser extent, I'd say LMM could be there too.
#4When charisma > talent
Posted: 5/22/16 at 4:39pm
I thought this was going to be about Bernie Sanders.
#5When charisma > talent
Posted: 5/22/16 at 5:22pm
I think Madonna got pretty good reviews for her turn in "Speed-the-Plow", although that was straight acting.
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Jarethan
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/10/11
#6When charisma > talent
Posted: 5/22/16 at 5:30pm
Sally Durant Plummer said: "I think Madonna got pretty good reviews for her turn in "Speed-the-Plow", although that was straight acting.
"They were shockled that she remembered her lines. She was adequate in a modest role in a short play.
trpguyy
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/25/05
#7When charisma > talent
Posted: 5/22/16 at 5:47pm
There is a trend now where social media following has an influence on casting. Hopefully the numbers at Tuck will show producers and casting agencies that followers =/= an audience.
aaaaaa15
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/31/15
#8When charisma > talent
Posted: 5/22/16 at 6:02pm
Taylor Swift is a very talented songwriter, but not that great at singing. Same with Lin, although I do think Lin is a great rapper and a good actor so it's not like he has nothing to offer but charisma on stage.
#9When charisma > talent
Posted: 5/22/16 at 6:11pm
aaaaaa15 said: "Taylor Swift is a very talented songwriter, but not that great at singing. Same with Lin, although I do think Lin is a great rapper and a good actor so it's not like he has nothing to offer but charisma on stage.
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Swift is a competent and even sometimes amazing country songwriter, not so as a pop writer though. At least for me, her recent albums are too generic and don't have the heart like some songs she wrote years before that would bring you to tears.
aaaaaa15
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/31/15
#10When charisma > talent
Posted: 5/22/16 at 6:13pm
Dancingthrulife2 said: "Swift is a competent and even sometimes amazing country songwriter, not so as a pop writer though. At least for me, her recent albums are too generic and don't have the heart like some songs she wrote years before that would bring you to tears."
Hmm, I'd disagree. Songs like Shake It Off are definitely generic and without substance, but I think Style is one of the best pop songs I've ever heard.
#11When charisma > talent
Posted: 5/22/16 at 6:30pm
Having finally seen Carol Channing live in the 1990s revival of HELLO, DOLLY! in Pasadena, I would say her charisma and talent were equal. If you're judging her on her singing voice, I suggest, OP, you listen to a little Louis Armstrong (What a Wonderful World) to recognize that style and delivery often trump technique.
Updated On: 5/22/16 at 06:30 PM
The Other One
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/1/08
#13When charisma > talent
Posted: 5/22/16 at 6:59pm
daisybeetle said: "Umm...(shyly)...Hugh Jackman.
imho
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Yup. Respectable talent, to be sure, but tremendous charisma.
#14When charisma > talent
Posted: 5/22/16 at 7:02pm
I thought the same thing when I saw his one-man show. Tons of charisma. Later I heard a segment of a YouTube clip without realizing who it was at first (it was in another tab), and was like, "Who IS this person with the trumpety voice?!" even though I had BEEN there.
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#15When charisma > talent
Posted: 5/22/16 at 7:16pm
"I think Madonna got pretty good reviews for her turn in "Speed-the-Plow", although that was straight acting."
But this thread is about having more charisma than talent. IMO, no one on the face of the earth has as much charisma vs. talent as Ms. Ciccone. She's been criticized from day one for having little talent, yet no one could take their eyes off her. I say good for her!
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#16When charisma > talent
Posted: 5/22/16 at 7:18pm
I wouldn't say he's famous for his charisma rather than his talent but I personally think Neil Patrick Harris' stage presence is better than his actual abilities.
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After Eight
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/5/09
#17When charisma > talent
Posted: 5/22/16 at 7:23pm
"Having finally seen Carol Channing live in the 1990s revival of HELLO, DOLLY! in Pasadena, I would say her charisma and talent were equal."
Absolutely. And not just in Dolly!, either.
#18When charisma > talent
Posted: 5/22/16 at 7:46pm
lucillefrank said: "I wouldn't say he's famous for his charisma rather than his talent but I personally think Neil Patrick Harris' stage presence is better than his actual abilities"
THIS. This was my entire problem with his Hedwig performance.
