Scream Queens (No Spoilers)

[Steve C.]

Posted: 9/23/15 at 1:24am

IMO, I think it shows some promise. Pretty funny, Ryan Murphy has a knack for assembling good casts, interesting music, and some unexpected twists. Either you love RM or hate him, I give him a pass sometime just for getting The Normal Heart made and directing it.

This show does have a blast with Jaime Lee, Emma Roberts, Lea M...and a lot of pretty young men too.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 9/23/15 at 1:28am

Does Lea Michele get beheaded? Please say she does.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 9/23/15 at 9:10am

I can't take Murphy's Boys in the Band-era vision of misogyny transplanted into the mouths of women. I didn't make it past 40 minutes. 

[Luscious]

Posted: 9/23/15 at 9:37am

I didn't make it past 20. I'm not a Murphy-hater, but it didn't take longer than that to know that this show just isn't for me.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 9/23/15 at 9:40am

I laughed a few times, but I thought the whole thing was generally awful.  It  makes American Horror Story look like Shakespeare. Every time someone opened their mouths it was to deliver stilted exposition.  Sure, a lot of these people were meeting for the first time, but everyone conversation seemed to be, " I am blank.  I am from blank.  My parent did blank, etc."  

 

All of the black women were caricatures, even if Niecey Nash and Keke Palmer were pretty funny with what they had to work with.  They show contains Murphy's patented "ironic" racism and - like Namo mentioned - outright contempt for women.  

 

I liked when Goldie Hawn's hot son said, "You may not know this, but I'm a professor."  That was not clumsy at all.  And then he demanded a job!  After the school year had already started!  And wouldn't he have already had another job?

 

But nobody on this show behaves like a person in the real world, which is fine, since none of them look like they'd go to a college in the real world, anyway.   But it's such a cartoon that I can't figure out what I'm supposed to care about.  

Updated On: 9/23/15 at 09:40 AM

[Hamilton22]

Posted: 9/23/15 at 10:38am

The show is trying too hard. The pilot was pretty bad but the 2nd episode was much better. The comedy seems so forced in this, I wish it was more organic. 

Emma Roberts doesn't seem like she has grasped her character yet but she had her moments. Nick Jonas's character is pretty funny and Lea Michele is actually hysterical in this. I'll definitely keep watching the show. It's not the best but it's funny and entertaining. 

 

Updated On: 9/23/15 at 10:38 AM

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 9/23/15 at 11:21am

Why do Ryan and Lea insist on playing out their S&M psychodrama in front of the cameras?

[Fantod]

Posted: 9/23/15 at 11:22am

It's really bad. Like really bad, but it's self-aware and intentionally bad in every single aspect of the show (including the supposed drama). It's a good time.

[east side story]

Posted: 9/23/15 at 11:50am

Currently watching it now. Question: How is Emma Roberts a working actor? Truly a mystery. 

Jamie Lee Curtis deserves better, but I see why she took the role. 

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 9/23/15 at 12:40pm

I don't think it's intentionally bad.  I think I think it's intentionally campy (which is about the worst thing to aspire to) but I have no doubt that those behind and in front of the camera think they are making great tv.  

Like that dumbass flashback that showed Jamie Lee and the maid were around when the baby was born in 1995.  WTF was up with the maid's wig?  Is there a plotline to come about the wig she wore in 1995, because I can't believe we are supposed to believe that A) it was real hair and B) That's what she'd do with her "hair" while working?

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 9/23/15 at 12:46pm

From the AV Club recap

One of the biggest discussions is of course the one on race, and Scream Queens makes itself an easy target for that. In fact, it absolutely invites such discussions by continuing Team Murphy’s—despite being three white men—habit of having characters be outwardly despicable (yet supposedly entertaining) in the form of conversational racist, bigoted, hate speech.

“You see, out in the real world, people just don’t talk that way to other people. It’s not normal.”

When Jamie Lee Curtis’ Dean Cathy Munsch (who is basically the Dean from every movie about fraternities) says this, it takes on two meanings. The worst, more obvious meaning is the one where it’s basically an excuse for this show to have most of its characters speak to each other with total disrespect and absolutely no filters. By saying that there’s an awareness that this is not a great way to speak to or treat people—especially those that are considered “other”—it covers the bases for the show to continue to have characters speak and act that way. There’s the real world, and then there’s this world. It’s a pre-dismissal of the arguments against Murphy, Falchuck, and Brennan writing such hateful (no matter how exaggerated and creative—and sometimes juvenile) speech in this and any of their shows.

[DAME]

Posted: 9/23/15 at 12:54pm

I just found it extremely repetitive .  I was bored. Too bad .  I love Jamie Lee Curtis and I can look at Nick Jonas all day.  But what a bad show.  And Neicy Nash as security... Why does she keep getting hired?  She is awful.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 9/23/15 at 2:30pm

That AV Club quote is so spectacularly on the nose Ryan Murphy should look like WC Fields.  It's time for his ilk to know the world is moving on rapidly. 

[songanddanceman2]

Posted: 9/23/15 at 4:55pm

Honestly I thought it was pretty funny and very entertaining. It's embracing it's trashy roots from the 80s/90s, bringing the mean girls back and amping them up. I think the first episode was a little to rapid but it settled down in episode 2. 

 

Yes it it has stereotypes, yes it's over the top but all that is clearly intentional. I thought the death by twitter thing was hilarious. Curtis is a joy in this and Michelle is clearly having a blast. I think it's way too easy to trash this show because of everybody's odd bashing of Murphey but compared to the other new shows (Life in Pieces, Lucifer, The Muppets and the awful Blindspot) this one is the stand out.

[Steve C.]

Posted: 9/23/15 at 5:21pm

Like I said at the start of this thread, #1) Let the haters begin....#2) People, this AIN"T Shakespeare.

I also don't know how seriously to take an AV Club review written by the same angry woman that reviews WWE wrestling and special "Boy Meets World" episodes...

Anyway I get it, it's not for everyone, you just don't need to make it your life's mission to crap all over it. One thing that would make Scream Queens better would be to cast Varla Jean Merman, as the killer even; maybe then people would get the camp for what it is. ..alright, already...

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 9/23/15 at 5:35pm

Fans of mean women who treat each other like crap (like Madonna!) will love this!!!

[songanddanceman2]

Posted: 9/23/15 at 6:41pm

Oh Namo, has the sex dried up again and that's why your bitch is back? Personally I think this appeals to people who just wanna sit back and have fun and not over think. This ain't high art and ain't pretending to be, it's dumb fun and silly entertainment that has it's tongue firmly planted in it's cheek. 

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 9/23/15 at 8:45pm

"Personally I think this appeals to people who just wanna sit back and have fun and not over think."

Is it because to think about the racism even a teeny bit would make people feel crappy about it?

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 9/23/15 at 9:17pm

I watched it today on hulu+. I thought it was hilarious! I really enjoyed it.

[Call_me_jorge]

Posted: 9/23/15 at 11:03pm

Nick Jonas is so hot and I love him.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 9/24/15 at 12:17am

I'm watching this now and I'm shocked at how it's even worse than I imagined it could be. Hopefully it'll get cancelled and show Murphy that everything he touches is not, in fact, gold. 

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 9/24/15 at 12:33am

It's like he's not even trying anymore. Some stuff is actually funny, but then there's the racism and plot nonesense.   

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 9/24/15 at 12:35am

I honestly think Murphy thinks he's making some sort of social commentary against racism with this script. 

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 9/24/15 at 12:40am

I might have believed that a few seasons of AHS ago, but now I think he just finds it titillating. 

And i swear, the only time I ever hear "gash" in this day and age is in a Ryan Murphy trainwreck. 

Updated On: 9/24/15 at 12:40 AM

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 9/24/15 at 12:43am

You know Ryan Murphy puts on skimpy little dresses and prances around his house saying mean sh*t to himself in the mirror, pretending he's that despicable Emma Roberts character.