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[temms]

Posted: 5/7/13 at 4:52pm

The new Tisch program hasn't even graduated anyone yet since it's less than four years old, so I think it's premature to say that it's "gone downhill". The little bit of exposure I've had suggests that it's quite a good program with a very impressive talent level. If anything, it was CAP21 that was not faring as well as some of the other theatre programs in its final years of NYU affiliation, though everything moves in cycles.

So, to clarify, there are in fact three separate musical theatre programs that have or recently had an NYU affiliation (remember that NYU isn't so much one university as much as it is a lot of smaller schools that all umbrella themselves as NYU). There's the new Tisch program which is 3 years old and is based out of the Tisch building on Broadway; there's the Steinhart Program which is based out of the Education Building on 4th St., and CAP21 which is now an independent program and operates out of its own studios on 18th St. All have their pluses and minuses, and I have seen excellent students and faculty at all of them.

That said, NYC will always be here. I'm one of those people who thought they'd be on the first bus to NYC right after high school graduation (just like in "Chorus Line"), but ended up going to a Big 10 university in the Midwest, living in Chicago for a couple years after graduation, and didn't move to NYC until I was 24 and had a little bit of money and some solid friends and connections here. I didn't miss anything, and I'm glad that I experienced life somewhere else, just because I think it gives me a better perspective on how different and bizarre New York really is compared to the "real world".

It used to be that only the most prominent programs like NYU and Michigan and Carnegie Mellon and Cincinnati did Senior Showcases in New York that were attended by agents and casting directors. Now there are a million of them, and the CDs and agents do in fact take the time to go. As long as the program you choose does an NYC showcase, you'll be in the same position as anyone else provided you're one of the best in your class.

But I repeat - NYC will always be here. You can jump on or off the ride at any time, which is one of the great things about it.

[macnyc]

Posted: 5/7/13 at 5:07pm

Are you aware that BroadwayWorld has a student board?

Also, the musical theater forum on College Confidential attracts a lot of people who are very knowledgeable. Many of them are parents, but some are professionals. They tend to be realistic. Have you checked that out? You will find many posts on Tisch.

http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/musical-theater-major/

[finebydesign]

Posted: 5/7/13 at 5:11pm

You should certainly have more than one option.

[andi1235]

Posted: 5/7/13 at 5:13pm

I live in Ithaca, NY, which has very good local theater. We're also only a 3-4 hour drive from NYC, so it's doable to go down on weekends for stuff. You may want to look into Ithaca College. They have a performance / music education program, and they're a well-regarded music school. I think they focus more on classical music, but I imagine you could work on musical theatre instead if that's where your passion is. :)

http://www.ithaca.edu/music/education/programs/perfed/

Also in Ithaca, I don't know how old you are, but the Hangar Theatre has some educational summer programs, if you're interested in the area at all.

http://www.hangartheatre.org/next-generation-school-of-theatre.html

I'm no help when it comes to NYC schools, but I figured I'd throw this out there for you. Good luck whatever you decided to do!! :)

Posted: 5/7/13 at 6:38pm

. The other day I was talking to the head of a BFA Acting program in a major midwestern university and his advice was to study film acting in California. That's where the jobs are, he said.
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As much as I love film I much rather prefer stage over the camera, for many reasons. I would be arrogant if I opposed to the 'many' opportunities offered in California because theyre probably is, but id feel I wouldn't be satisfied with what I was getting in terms of teaching and idea. Everyone thinks Cali is the place to go to be 'discovered' or famous or whatever, but it really isn't just easy as said done.

That may sound a little contradictive of me since I want to go to New York for the reason of more opportunity, I just feel Cali is more counterfeit then New York when it comes to job offers being really being as good as they sound and meeting people That will get you where you want to be. Or as I said, I'm just really tired of California haha.

Posted: 5/7/13 at 6:42pm

I live in Ithaca, NY, which has very good local theater. We're also only a 3-4 hour drive from NYC, so it's doable to go down on weekends for stuff. You may want to look into Ithaca College. They have a performance / music education program, and they're a well-regarded music school. I think they focus more on classical music, but I imagine you could work on musical theatre instead if that's where your passion is. :)
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Thank you I will definitely look into it!!!

[trentsketch]

Posted: 5/7/13 at 7:01pm

Another option is Montclair Statue University. The musical theater program is very hard to get into. It's excellent. They want triple threats because they do not fool around with the shows they do within the program. They added extra tap classes in two years before they did Crazy for You so they could really do the show justice. Their music programs and acting (not musical theater) programs are solid, too.

Montclair is 30 minutes from NYC and right by the train station. They audition around the country for the program, as well, so you might be able to catch a California audition.

[dexter3]

Posted: 5/7/13 at 7:27pm

Hi there.

I work in the MT industry, and I went to one of the excellent schools mentioned in this thread.

I would suggest you take to heart some of the advice about looking for less expensive schools, and even the advice about going to school outside of NYC.

Here is why:

1) The $250,000 price tag mentioned for NYU is quite accurate, and the approximation that (with financial aid) you'll be $125,000 in debt is actually quite a generous estimate. You say that money isn't all you care about, but when you've graduated and you're faced with making a living, you're are seriously in debt with a degree that doesn't automatically open doors for you, you'll be in a tough situation. (May I remind you that NO degree is going to get you an acting job. NEVER. Your performance at an audition will.)

2) This industry (as I'm sure you've heard) is one of the most difficult to make a living in. PERIOD. Notice I didn't say "make it". I said "make a living". By that, I mean actually make enough money to pay rent and bills and student loans, etc. I've seen 75% of my classmates end up in other industries, not just because it's hard, but nearly impossible to even make enough money to live. This is after 10 years of working in the industry quite consistently.

I know your heart is set on NYC and NYU, but as you go through life, you'll learn that what you WANT and what you SHOULD do are often two very different things.

I'm not saying don't pursue acting (which...to be honest, might be most people's advice). I'm saying be smart about it. Be frugal. Get a great education. Work hard. Stay out of debt as much as possible.

To think you can only get what you need at NYU is, frankly, quite naive.

Posted: 5/7/13 at 8:53pm

I know your heart is set on NYC and NYU, but as you go through life, you'll learn that what you WANT and what you SHOULD do are often two very different things.

I'm not saying don't pursue acting (which...to be honest, might be most people's advice). I'm saying be smart about it. Be frugal. Get a great education. Work hard. Stay out of debt as much as possible.

To think you can only get what you need at NYU is, frankly, quite naive.
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I know. I'm probably super naive. And I know picking acting as a career is super risky and a difficult road to make it by but the journey is so rewarding I could imagine. I feel im exactly where im suppose to be whenever I'm taking part in a show or in my theatre class. I'm in my most comfort zone when I'm surrounded by my casts. Even when I'm casted with people That are extremely aggrivating to work with I still love them in a bizarre way. I cannot and will not study anything else, I love the art more then I can explain.

I have no idea what I'm going to do. Nyu is pretty much out of the picture for me as of now. I'm trying to be smart about it, but its hard to be. I appreciate the reality check.

Posted: 5/7/13 at 8:56pm

Does anyone know if AADA is any good? I've heard good and bad things about it. There's no academic corses which is a minus.

[dramamama611]

Posted: 5/7/13 at 8:59pm

("Casted" is not a word -- not trying to be witchie, it's just a pet peeve.)

You are getting lots of good advice. NYU is not the only place to get a great theater, acting, mt education. You can get a great education at many places....at more reasonable places. The bigger bills you have at graduation, the less likely you will actually be able to pursue acting full time -- as you will need a better job to start paying back loans.

NYC will be there after you finish whatever program you decide upon.

Posted: 5/7/13 at 9:20pm

("Casted" is not a word -- not trying to be witchie, it's just a pet peeve.)
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Dawwwwwww im just venting a little. i know I'm getting really good advice.

[ggersten]

Posted: 5/7/13 at 10:29pm

But, in the end, you should audition for NYU - probably at the LA Unifieds (and you may have to decide between auditioning for Steinhardt or Tisch - Steinhardt has earlier admissions, I think) If you don't audition, you won't have the option to go. If you do audition and get in, then you can weigh your options. If you don't audition, you will always wonder. No one is telling you to not audition or to give up on NYU - just be realistic about what it entails and that there are many great options out there besides NYU.

[lillebjorn]

Posted: 5/7/13 at 10:44pm

Are you a triple threat in terms of singing, acting and dance? If your dance isn't really strong already and you want to do Musical Theatre, it may be worth considering acting programs who have a good singing component and a lot of movement. MT programs just don't have enough time to do everything well and acting is sometimes the strand that suffers. Juilliard has some greats actors who sing: Kevin Kline, Greg Jbara (Tony winner Billy Elliot), Gabe Ebert (Tony nominee Matilda). UNCSA has Wesley Taylor, Rachel Wallace (Mary Poppins), Lauren Ward (Matilda), Rebecca Naomi James .

[all that jazz]

Posted: 5/7/13 at 11:11pm

I just felt it was appropriate...

[BwayTday]

Posted: 5/8/13 at 12:54am

"The new Tisch program hasn't even graduated anyone yet since it's less than four years old, so I think it's premature to say that it's "gone downhill". The little bit of exposure I've had suggests that it's quite a good program with a very impressive talent level."

I know people in the program and they are exceptionally talented. But I'm just speaking from what I've heard from people within the school...

Someone also made a good point about dancing. You should definitely consider straight acting programs if you aren't dancer or someone who can at least dance proficiently.

Updated On: 5/8/13 at 12:54 AM

Posted: 5/8/13 at 1:17am

But, in the end, you should audition for NYU - probably at the LA Unifieds (and you may have to decide between auditioning for Steinhardt or Tisch - Steinhardt has earlier admissions, I think) If you don't audition, you won't have the option to go. If you do audition and get in, then you can weigh your options. If you don't audition, you will always wonder. No one is telling you to not audition or to give up on NYU - just be realistic about what it entails and that there are many great options out there besides NYU.
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I think I d want to save some money (I have a part time job) and fly to New York for my audition, for early decision and just to take a trip to New York. That is very true I'd live forever wondering what could've been, but I wouldn't want to make it then be depressed knowing I couldn't go.. I don't know what I'm going to do but I'm glad I've gotten all this info from everyone.

Posted: 5/8/13 at 1:24am

Someone also made a good point about dancing. You should definitely consider straight acting programs if you aren't dancer or someone who can at least dance proficiently.
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I did ballet for a few years when I was young and tumbling my freshmen year if that's significant. I'm extremely flexible. And Im super fit (I run a lot). When I did my first musical I had no problem learning the dance routine quickly though it wasn't anything crazy. So I'd say I'm not proficient, but with training I could manage

Posted: 5/8/13 at 1:26am

I just felt it was appropriate...
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Love it :)

[N2N Nate.]

Posted: 10/21/13 at 8:42pm

Bump

Hope Auditions go well this year! Did you decide on your college audition list?

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 10/21/13 at 8:50pm