clinton vs. sanders your vote?

[South Florida]

Posted: 4/29/15 at 9:00am

1 for Bernie

Updated On: 9/2/15 at 09:00 AM

[henrikegerman]

Posted: 4/29/15 at 9:08am

In the primary, I'd probably vote for Sanders, as long as I didn't think he really had a chance of winning the nomination and, with that, so likely losing the general. 

But having to go through that convoluted set of thought processes only reminds me how much I dislike politics.

Updated On: 4/29/15 at 09:08 AM

[madbrian]

Posted: 4/29/15 at 9:08am

I would vote for HRC over Sanders.  However, I would vote for Warren over both.

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 4/29/15 at 9:34am

Bernie Sanders.

I've already volunteered to help his campaign locally.

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 4/29/15 at 9:39am

Updated On: 4/29/15 at 09:39 AM

[LarryD2]

Posted: 4/29/15 at 9:53am

Sanders is an ideological candidate with no chance of winning, and that's fine. Those kinds of candidates exist for a reason. 

[madbrian]

Posted: 4/29/15 at 10:01am

I like Sanders, but let's remember that both McCain and Romney were hurt in the general election by having been dragged too far right during the primaries.  The Dems don't have a similar track record, but it's important not to fall into that trap.

[StageManager2]

Posted: 4/29/15 at 10:45am

Hillary. Sanders has no chance of winning the general election, and its very important that we have a Democratic president following Obama, because several Supreme Court Justices would be retiring in the next 5 to 10 years. It just takes one more conservative Justice to tip the balance in their favor, and since they serve for life, we'd be screwed for decades.

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 4/29/15 at 11:29am

What will Hillary Clinton do to address income inequality?

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 4/29/15 at 12:11pm

Despite one's personal feelings for Clinton (and even though I'm somewhat of a fan, I get it), I can only plead that Erik and anyone else who has strong reservations about her doesn't sit out or vote third-party should she actually get the nomination.  

[South Florida]

Posted: 4/29/15 at 12:16pm

Sanders takes the debate to a level where it needs to go.  Two or three intelligent candidates makes for good debate, nine or 11 when such luminaries as Bachmann, Perry, etc... are running is a whole different story.  The two are incomparable.  I would much rather see Ginsberg retire now.  I have no confidence in the Dems taking the White House again whomever the nominee is.   Voter suppression in the key swing states will probably decide the next election and those states are almost entirely controlled by the Republicans.

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 4/29/15 at 12:19pm

I definitely will not sit out. I will definitely vote 3rd party. Unless she stops taking boatloads of Goldman Sachs money and convinces me she would be a good President between now and election day. As it stands right now, there's no way I could vote for Hillary Clinton with a good conscience. I think she's a horrible, awful, no good, very bad candidate. 

I would make my own plea. Vote for who you believe in. Vote for who you really think will solve the problems that are important to you. Don't just vote for someone because they have a D or R after their name because you've been convinced those are the only people that have a chance of winning.

 

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 4/29/15 at 12:23pm

Matt Taibbi on why Bernie's run is a great thing for America

[South Florida]

Posted: 4/29/15 at 12:24pm

Eric you're not alone in thinking that she's lame, but I could easily vote for her over anything the GOP can offer.  There are plenty of people in here who feel as you do and that is an issue.

[LarryD2]

Posted: 4/29/15 at 12:25pm

As StageManager2 noted, the next president will likely be in a position to appoint multiple Supreme Court justices who will affect the balance of the courts for decades to come. THAT is the most important factor to me. Do you want to see President Scott Walker nominate Ted Cruz to fill RBG's seat?

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 4/29/15 at 12:26pm

I appreciate what you're saying Eric, but for me, I couldn't vote third-party in good conscience.   To me that's just helping the Republican win.   I get all the conscientious objections, but the last thing this country needs after Obama is a Republican in the White House. 

Updated On: 4/29/15 at 12:26 PM

[South Florida]

Posted: 4/29/15 at 12:29pm

Thanks Namo.

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 4/29/15 at 12:32pm

I get it. We all have to vote our conscience.

I just can't vote for another Dem in good conscience who will continue to screw the poor. I pledged 2008 would be the last time I ever did that.

Also...if you're convinced there's no way that Sanders could win, I suggest trying to go see him speak to a crowd live.

Updated On: 4/29/15 at 12:32 PM

[PalJoey]

Posted: 4/29/15 at 12:34pm

Hillary's probably going to surprise you on income inequality the way she probably surprised you this morning with her talk about Baltimore and the criminal-justice reform:

"From Ferguson, to Staten Island, to Baltimore, the patterns have become unmistakable and undeniable. Walter Scott shot in the back in Charleston, South Carolina--unarmed, in debt, terrified of spending more time in jail for child support payments he couldn't afford. Tamir Rice shot in a park in Cleveland, Ohio, unarmed and just 12 years old. Eric Garner, choked to death after being stopped for selling cigarettes on the streets of our city. And now Freddie Gray, his spine nearly severed while in police custody."

She called for:

* An end to the era of mass incarceration

* Addressing probation and drug diversion programs

* Increasing support for mental health and drug treatment

* Pursuing alternative punishments for low-level offenders.

* Body cameras given to every police department to increase transparency and accountability in a way that benefits both officers and members of the public

She also said that society should "judge its success by measuring how many families can get ahead and stay ahead," which she said was "a far better measurement than the size of bonuses handed out in downtown office buildings.”

HUFF POST: Hillary Clinton: 'There Is Something Profoundly Wrong' In Our Criminal Justice System

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 4/29/15 at 12:40pm

With Bernie as the loyal opposition, she'll probably go even further.  Farther?  More.

[StageManager2]

Posted: 4/29/15 at 1:05pm

Millennials favor Hillary in Harvard Poll:

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-04-29/millennials-favor-hillary-clinton-in-harvard-poll

Clinton, 67, is likely to be among the oldest candidates in the race from either political party. Still, she's overwhelmingly favored among young adults who identified themselves as likely or potential Democratic primary voters, with 47 percent saying they plan to back the former secretary of state.

Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, who has repeatedly said she has no intention of running, was picked by 11 percent. Vice President Joe Biden was selected by 8 percent.

No prospective Republican candidate captured more than 10 percent support among that party's likely or potential youth primary voters. More than a third said they are undecided.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 4/29/15 at 1:20pm

I'm not 100% convinced Hillary can beat whoever the Republicans put up, but I'll vote for whatever Democrat gets the nomination. 

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 4/29/15 at 1:21pm

Updated On: 4/29/15 at 01:21 PM

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 4/29/15 at 1:43pm

"Tabula Rasa's

The name of the game

Post inflammatory things

Then escape any blame

Post like a mean bully bitch

Things you'd never say to their face

When you start feeling the heat

Go back and erase"

Welcome everybody to another episode of "Liza's Headband's 'Tabula Rasa'", the exciting game show of cruelty and Stalinesque disappearing!

Updated On: 4/29/15 at 01:43 PM

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 4/29/15 at 2:01pm