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SMASH: If it coulda been, it woulda been...

theatergeek3
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joined:2/9/13
Smash is new tonight! :)
Posted: 2/25/13 at 07:34pm
OK everybody...so Smash is new tonight (yay! :)) What are your predictions????
chrisampm2
Broadway Star
joined:5/26/07
Smash is new tonight! :)
Posted: 2/25/13 at 07:43pm
My prediction is that Smash won't even be old tonight.
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once a month
Broadway Legend
joined:4/16/04
Smash is new tonight! :)
Posted: 2/25/13 at 07:47pm
Day early
theatergeek3
Stand-by
joined:2/9/13
Smash is new tonight! :)
Posted: 2/26/13 at 07:46am
You are right! Didn't it used to be on Mondays last season & then they changed it? Well now it's Tuesday so it is new tonight! :) Predictions, thoughts, anyone????
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WithoutATrace
Broadway Legend
joined:11/27/04
Smash is new tonight! :)
Posted: 2/26/13 at 09:27am
With the horribly low ratings as of late, I'm just glad the "Smash" is still on the air!!
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TheatreDiva90016
Broadway Legend
joined:4/10/04
Smash is new tonight! :)
Posted: 2/26/13 at 09:34am
It's going to be a wreck.

And we will all watch it with delight.
"TheatreDiva90016 - another good reason to frequent these boards less."<<>> I hesitate to give this line of discussion the validation it so desperately craves by perpetuating it, but the light from logic is getting further and further away with your every successive post. <<>> -whatever2
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goldenboy
Broadway Legend
joined:7/15/05
Smash is new tonight! :)
Posted: 2/26/13 at 09:49am
Deborah Messing will rewrite the Kennedy/ Marilyn scene. It will go well and then
unexpectedly Deborah will kiss the dramaturg totally having amnesia about ex husband and son from last season....Son? I had a son? What son?

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kyl3fong2
Broadway Star
joined:3/10/11
Smash is new tonight! :)
Posted: 2/26/13 at 10:14am
Pretty sure tonight is all about Jennifer Hudson with her singing two songs and staging her one night only show.... I'm a fan of her, so count me in for the fun!
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Wee Thomas2
Leading Actor
joined:2/28/12
Smash is new tonight! :)
Posted: 2/26/13 at 02:46pm
I took it off of my DVR taping schedule after last week.

More "Swamp People" for me!
TFMH18
Featured Actor
joined:1/10/13
Smash is new tonight! :)
Posted: 2/26/13 at 05:32pm
I've seen tonight's episode (I got the screener a couple months back) and I have to say I did not enjoy it, however not for the typical reasons we don't enjoy SMASH. It's clear that the episode is J Hud's last and it totally sidetracks from all of the main characters and does nothing to advance the plot. Karen nor Ivy have a song to themselves and it's just very obvious that it was written solely to send off their Oscar winning guest star. If you're a fan of her, then it'll be a treat for you but if not, you will be disappointed (not that SMASH disappointing its viewers is anything new). Sigh.
#1CarrieFan
Understudy
joined:2/5/13
Smash is new tonight! :)
Posted: 2/26/13 at 08:40pm
I'll be watching tonight's show with the dedication and devotion that I have given to Smash. I don't know what is happening with the writers on this NBC show, but it is heading RAPIDLY down hill. Why are the writers and producers getting this show so wrong?
theatergeek3
Stand-by
joined:2/9/13
Smash is new tonight! :)
Posted: 2/26/13 at 10:00pm
Ugh...I'm almost positive it will be canceled next season. Such a shame! It's one of my favorite TV shows! Maybe it will at least become a web series. Although I don't think any of the actors would do a web series. Well, let's enjoy it while it lasts!
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jasonf
Broadway Legend
joined:12/26/03
Smash is new tonight! :)
Posted: 2/26/13 at 10:01pm
I have to ask - anyone pick up on Tom's cell phone ring? It sounded so familiar...
Hi, Shirley Temple Pudding.
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CurtainPullDowner
Broadway Legend
joined:11/4/04
Smash is new tonight! :)
Posted: 2/26/13 at 10:47pm
Well, I thought Andy souned great!
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Mr Roxy
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joined:5/17/03
Smash is new tonight! :)
Posted: 2/26/13 at 11:07pm
Last year they used the St George theater in Staten Island.

Nice to see the United Palace in Washington Heights. Started life as Loews 175 th St a Lowes Wonder theatre. Than sold to Rev Ike. Now used as a Church and theatre.Beautiful theater done by Thomas Lamb.

Cynicism is an unpleasant way of saying the truth - Lillian Hellman.
Updated On: 2/26/13 at 11:07 PM
Gothampc
Broadway Legend
joined:5/20/03
Smash is new tonight! :)
Posted: 2/26/13 at 11:15pm
I loved the ending. Who would have thought that Ellis would jump out of a closet singing "Let me be your staaaaaaaaaar!"
If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
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Wynbish
Broadway Legend
joined:4/27/12
Smash is new tonight! :)
Posted: 2/26/13 at 11:19pm
Jasonf, Tom's ringtone is one of the stock ringtones the iPhone has. It's called "Strum".
broadwayfever
Featured Actor
joined:6/15/08
Smash is new tonight! :)
Posted: 2/26/13 at 11:21pm
Why did they go in such a different direction from last season? They had a 'smash' on their hands and they ruined it.
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Phyllis Rogers Stone
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joined:9/16/07
Smash is new tonight! :)
Posted: 2/27/13 at 12:17am

Updated On: 2/27/13 at 12:17 AM
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ErinDillyFan
Broadway Star
joined:7/14/06
Smash is new tonight! :)
Posted: 2/27/13 at 10:33am
Ok, people on this board didn't like SMASH last season. And more dislike it this year. I have never heard anyone give a concrete reason.

The show has amped up behind the scenes drama (so you want no conflict?) and the best new songs on TV every week, by great performers, with a few old ones thrown in.

Do you really think the storylines and acting is that bad compared to The Big Bang Theory and NCIS with the best ratings?
Gothampc
Broadway Legend
joined:5/20/03
Smash is new tonight! :)
Posted: 2/27/13 at 12:21pm
"I have never heard anyone give a concrete reason."

Because the acting has gone from bad to worse and the writing is not getting any better.

Debra Messing has lapsed into her Grace Adler bag of tricks. The director needs to steer her away from the "shocked-outrage-offended" reaction. It worked in comedy in front of a studio audience, it doesn't work on this show.

There's too much going on. There are three musicals we have to keep track of: Bombshell, Hit List, Dangerous Liasions and then they have to introduce a concert by Jennifer Hudson. They are spreading themselves too thin.

The only time the show really works is during the musical numbers and even some of them are failing.

If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
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david_fick
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joined:7/12/12
SMASH should have been an anthology series, with each season focusing on a different musical and a unique storyline. Like AMERICAN HORROR STORY.

Alas, as things stand, the show seems to be spinning out of control by trying to throw too much into the mix and forgetting about what worked in Season 1 in the frenzy to chuck out the things that didn't work. A pity, as there is so much to work with insofar as the concept of this series is concerned.
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jasonf
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joined:12/26/03
Thanks Wynbish - it was driving me nuts where I heard it and thought it might have been from something.

I think the problem this year also is that they're spreading too thin. The show works best (for me) when they're focusing on working on Bombshell. The "show doctor" character's scenes to me (despite Messing's constant outrage) are the best in the show right now for me. I find that stuff fascinating. I don't care what some random made up starlet sings in a concert that doesn't really matter. I didn't even think the last song she sang was all that great.

Oh, and has Katherine Mcphee's acting gotten worse this year? She's so woodenly bad!
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ErinDillyFan
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"There's too much going on. There are three musicals we have to keep track of: Bombshell, Hit List, Dangerous Liasions and then they have to introduce a concert by Jennifer Hudson. They are spreading themselves too thin."

I don't buy it. I don't find it confusing. ER had as many main characters and had far more new characters, stories and subplots every week and people didn't have any trouble following and loving it. If you said it is unrealistic for a director like Derek to have his hands in so many shows at different stages of development and it was true then that would be fair. I have a friend who is a pianist/musical director/composer/arranger... Who started Sunday in a recording studio recording two tracks for an album, then conducted a church service, then music directed a musical at a matinee, and in the evening went to rehearse for an upcoming musical. I sorted understood that is the nature of the business.

I agree with Debra Messing's acting is pretty one dimensional, but I don't see that it is inconsistent with her character in the plot.

I find it interesting that now somehow last year seemed fine to everyone, when all I read on this board last year were knocks.

It is evident to me that the focus of the show isn't on Bombshell or any one project, but on Derek. Last year it seemed that everything revolved around Eileen.
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GavestonPS
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joined:6/10/12
Erin, I think the writing for ER was much more specific and the problems, whether solved within one episode or part of an "arc", were clearer and visible. "I don't know what my show is about" isn't something we can see, so it doesn't register as clear as "I have a machete in my head and need to get it out".

The point isn't violence per se, but what can be shown v. what can only be "told".

As for last night's episode, I liked the musical numbers, but couldn't have cared less about any of the characters or plot.
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dramamama611
Broadway Legend
joined:12/4/07
I didn't love it last year. I don't love it this year. It doesn't know what it wants to be -- a soap opera? (ugh) An insider's look? (Nope.)

McPhee's acting is horrible, her face is void of emotion, her line delivery is cold.

I think most of the characters are horridly written and one dimensional.

WHY don't I like it? It doesn't bring me joy or intrigue -- and I so wanted it to.

If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it? These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.

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