Rocky Horror Show

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Rocky Horror Show#1
Posted: 9/1/08 at 2:22pm
So this is slightly off topic but its about musicals/west end...!
I was eating me dinner, and my mum is watching Eggheads (dont ask!!) so one of the questions was "What is the sequel to the film The Rocky Horror Picture Show?" to which my mum asks me "Isn't it Little Shop of Horrors...?"

:O I am so ashamed of her, i feel like all my good work has just gone to pot, bloody Little Shop of Horrors!!
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re: Rocky Horror Show#2
Posted: 9/1/08 at 3:23pm
I was in the audience of Little Shop of Horrors and overheard an audience member saying "It was made by the guy who did Rocky Horror Picture Show". I wanted to correct him but I was just looking at my friend trying not to laugh too much.

I love both shows to bits and it is so much fun listening to people talk with authority when they are wrong.

I wonder how many people will think Andrew Lloyd Webber wrote Oliver! now??
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re: Rocky Horror Show#2
Posted: 9/1/08 at 3:35pm
i love listening to people around me in the theatre.
Week before last when i was at Never Forget (what!! it had to be done!) the man in front went to his wife:
This is written by the same people as We Will Rock You and Mamma Mia. Apparently they choose bands and make musicals on them!!
I didnt have the heart to correct them, bless em!
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re: Rocky Horror Show#3
Posted: 9/1/08 at 3:47pm
re: Rocky Horror Show

FWIW there is no official sequel to Rocky Horror, as Richard O'Brien considers Shock Treatment to be an alternative universe version of Brad and Janet's lives.

The sad thing about Shock Treatment is that it was so far ahead of its time. I was just a youngun when it first came out and rented the DVD out of curiosity last summer (after a long and probably unhealthy love of the song "Bitchin' in the Kitchen") and found it absolutely brilliant. It's a far more cerebral film than Rocky Horror was and it's scary how well O'Brien predicted the rise of reality television and the cult of illusory fame that goes with it. Definitely worth revisiting if you haven't seen it in a while and checking out if you've been scared off before. The satire is far more biting now than it was before Big Brother.

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re: Rocky Horror Show#4
Posted: 9/1/08 at 3:50pm
There was one single question on Shakespeare on 'University Challenge' tonight. Paxo did a quote and asked what play it was from; Mum guessed 'Midsummer Night's Dream', while I threw my arms up in despair and cried "oh for heaven's SAKE!" because I really am beginning to get a little 'Hamlet'-ed out.

Mum's only defence is that she gets twitchy and anxious at the thought of Shakespeare and the closest she's got to him in the last thirty years is sitting on the sofa next to my DVD rack, or lending me her car so I can go to Stratford. XD

..... please understand that my brain is currently in such a place that failing to correctly identify a 'Hamlet' quote is just as silly as thinking 'Rocky' and 'Little Shop' are by the same people. We may be operating on different planes of reality, but my frustration is just as acute as yours. re: Rocky Horror Show
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re: Rocky Horror Show#5
Posted: 9/1/08 at 3:55pm
its like our lives are paralell weez! only yours is filled with William Shakespeare, mine is filled with naked men, transvestites and man eating plants.. o.O
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re: Rocky Horror Show#6
Posted: 9/1/08 at 4:00pm
Shakespeare has transvestites, and can feature naked men if the director so fancies. :P Not so sure about the man-eating plants though... XD
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re: Rocky Horror Show#7
Posted: 9/1/08 at 4:03pm
Shock Treatment was beyond appalling grrr
Namo i love u but we get it already....you don't like Madonna
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re: Rocky Horror Show#8
Posted: 9/1/08 at 4:07pm
see tis not all that different at all is it!! i think if i ever directed itd be a dangerous thing...id end up doing A Chorus Line with an all male cast, and change One to a full monty style routine...but only for pure creative license, not for any other reason whatsoever!!
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re: Rocky Horror Show#9
Posted: 9/1/08 at 4:18pm
I'm sorely tempted to set up my own production company that specialises in all-female casting or cross-gender casting. I mean, when you think how many girls go into acting, and think how many brilliant parts there are for men (especially in Shakespeare but also in a lot of contemporary stuff), you could argue that it's not actually a *completely* terrible idea.

Until you realise that my sole drive behind this scheme is to give myself an opportunity to play Henry V. I'd feel shame, if that weren't an emotion that departed me many moons back. :3
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re: Rocky Horror Show#10
Posted: 9/1/08 at 4:22pm
"I'm sorely tempted to set up my own production company that specialises in all-female casting or cross-gender casting."

Go for it. You could set up the UK's response to Takarazuka, except for the whole "get crucified by the feminists for portraying women as swooning romantics who only want a 1930's manly man to sweep them away and turn them into perfect housewives" mentality that all their plays present.

Yeah, I've got a bad love/hate for their stuff. They do some beautiful performances, and those who are interested in lesbian theatre would be well served to study their (unofficial) history, but the image they present can be quite hard to swallow.
Wiki on the Takarazuka Revue
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re: Rocky Horror Show#11
Posted: 9/1/08 at 4:22pm
Awh Weez, that actually sounds like a really good idea! I think Shakespeare writes very good male characters, that would be really kick ass when performed by women!
So many production companies are set up to settle their own desires so this idea would be perfect :) id come see your shows!
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re: Rocky Horror Show#12
Posted: 9/1/08 at 4:32pm
I've always fancied looking more at Takarazuka, but there's just so MUCH of it that I wouldn't know where to start! Perhaps I should. Also, Fiona Shaw got to play Richard II at the National, so there is even more precedent for it.

Sometimes I can't tell if I should tell people off for not discouraging me, or if I should take my wacky idea and run with it. O_O

EDIT:
"get crucified by the feminists for portraying women as swooning romantics who only want a 1930's manly man to sweep them away and turn them into perfect housewives"

Hah! I definitely wouldn't get any of that, not with my impetus being the desire to be last of the great warrior kings! XD (And a mean judge. And a pirate. ^_^)
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re: Rocky Horror Show#13
Posted: 9/1/08 at 4:39pm
Haha! I think you'd make a fierce Henry V!! run with it Weez! Itd be great, honestly its a really original contempory idea, doing single gender casting!!
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re: Rocky Horror Show#14
Posted: 9/1/08 at 4:48pm
I don't know about original and contemporary (I'm sure the historians would have something to say about that XD), but the lack of outright opposition does mean I'll be thinking seriously about it. I'm about to start studying a BA in Theatre Studies, I'm going to keep the idea firmly in mind with regards to this, and see how it pans out. AND IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT. re: Rocky Horror Show
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re: Rocky Horror Show#15
Posted: 9/1/08 at 4:51pm
I WANT ROYALTIES!! :)
im doing Theatre Studies A level this year! im quite excited about it, we're gonne be doing The Dollshouse as our exam piece!
Keep me posted though!
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re: Rocky Horror Show#16
Posted: 9/1/08 at 4:56pm
"I've always fancied looking more at Takarazuka, but there's just so MUCH of it that I wouldn't know where to start!"

I'd recommend starting with Western adaptations - How to Succeed, Elisabeth, Pal Joey. I really want to see their Oklahoma, but the official DVD is around 90-100 at Sound of Music and I'm not sure if a friend of mine in Japan can...er...rent and *cough* it for me. I'd also recommend Elisabeth, but there are a LOT of videos and it's hard to appreciate without having a background in the German version and just how much they mucked with it to make it fit the Takarazuka ideal.

As far as Japanese specific productions, the revue and song/dance shows are always good just for sheer novelty value. The Rose of Versailles is based on a key piece of girls' comics and always interesting given that they frequently take on new versions of it (and quite appropriate given the gender bending in the source). I don't know about much past that...my interest is more in the Western adaptations.

You may also want to read Jennifer Robertson's book "Takarazuka" which is flawed but gives you a crash course on the company's history, mindset, and the bat**** insanity that pervades the fandom.
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re: Rocky Horror Show#17
Posted: 9/2/08 at 11:06pm
Don't even go near 'shock Treatment' unless your a serious collector like me and mine is still in its cellophane- that is where it will stay!
DREADFUL DREADFUL DREADFUL!
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re: Rocky Horror Show#18
Posted: 9/3/08 at 11:51am
This is sort of off topic of your post lol, but I was just watching a video from the London version of Hairspray and these comments...well..

1st person: why is everyone american in the london production
2nd person: They aren't American. They just put on American accents, since it takes place in Baltimore.
1st person: kool to know they cando that?
2nd person: Yeah.

Seriously?! Has this person never come across anyone/any show or film that uses different accents?
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re: Rocky Horror Show#19
Posted: 9/3/08 at 12:04pm
haha i love reading stuff like that, it makes me chuckle :)
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re: Rocky Horror Show#20
Posted: 9/3/08 at 2:10pm
WickedBoy: I'll buy it off you for 2...my copy is in the US. =(
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re: Rocky Horror Show#21
Posted: 9/3/08 at 2:12pm
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Um? NO!
It cost me $35 in New York when it was issued. Put 2 zeros after it!!!
(Im in New York at the moment i can pick your copy up for you if you want!!! x)

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re: Rocky Horror Show#22
Posted: 9/3/08 at 3:16pm
So what has happened to the much-vaunted actual sequel to 'Rocky'? Last I heard was about 2 years ago when it was "just about to go into production".
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re: Rocky Horror Show#23
Posted: 9/3/08 at 6:57pm
$35 for Shock Treatment on DVD?

It's listed at $10 now... =)
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re: Rocky Horror Show#24
Posted: 9/4/08 at 3:57am
Is Shock Treatment a stage show or a film?

You'd have to pay me to take something with that scary cover art.