Royal Variety Performance - Wicked

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Royal Variety Performance - Wicked#1
Posted: 12/12/06 at 6:09pm
Idina and Helen did One Short Day and Defying Gravity. It was cool to see there expressions up close and they did great. It was very obvious how Idina "flew" as the cameras where close up . it took some of the magic away. Want to try and see Idina again before she finishes here run.
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re: Royal Variety Performance - Wicked#1
Posted: 12/12/06 at 7:42pm
im gutted i had to work!! any chance somebody may have been kind enough to you tube them????
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re: Royal Variety Performance - Wicked#2
Posted: 12/13/06 at 3:08am
Maybe it was just my crappy TV, but didn't Idina's voice crack at the end of Defying Gravity? She must have been sick/nervous or something.
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re: Royal Variety Performance - Wicked#3
Posted: 12/13/06 at 3:21am
I agree Idina's vocals were very off in my opinion.

Slightly of thread but I thought AveQ was superb!
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re: Royal Variety Performance - Wicked#4
Posted: 12/13/06 at 4:18am
she was nervous....you can tell in her face she was scared she couldn't hit those notes!

but generally a very good performance. the camera angles in DG really annoyed me cos it took away the awesome spectacle that DG was supposed to give.
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re: Royal Variety Performance - Wicked#5
Posted: 12/13/06 at 4:36am
Very good performance by everyone, yet to watch Ave Q though. Spamalot was alright i guess not the best of the bunch lol!!
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re: Royal Variety Performance - Wicked#6
Posted: 12/13/06 at 7:37am
For whats its worth (I really enjoyed Wicked btw) I thought Defying Gravity last night had no where near the impact it does on stage, and Idina just didnt sound like her normal self. Good but not great. Sound Of Music was average, Connie did a good job but it wasnt an excitign performance. Spamalot was fun (and im not a fan at all) and gave a good taste of the humour and style of the show. Avenue Q was ace, but could have gone on longer - wish they had done the porn song!! It was nice to see all the cast (and some ensemble) on stage. Avenue Q definately came off best.

I think musicals often arnt the same when taken out of context of the show.

Barry Maninlow, Meatloaf and Jordon were really bad, as was the Irish comedian. The comedian whose name I cant remember but who kept doing his 'showbiz' walk I thought was the funniest comedian ive seen on there for years!
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re: Royal Variety Performance - Wicked#7
Posted: 12/13/06 at 8:21am
Didn't catch it, but we did tape it should be watching it soon. What song(s) from avenue q did they have?
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re: Royal Variety Performance - Wicked#8
Posted: 12/13/06 at 9:34am
Have read all about Idina and spoken to several other posters about her, but I have to say that last night Wicked looked dreadful, over blown, over amped, over rated tosh. I have never seen anyone look so uncomfortable as Idina through out.

She could hardly hit the notes, her voice cracked, her expressions were the usual overdone Broadway mess and her make up was appaling. There was nothing favourable I could say about what happened with Wicked last night. No wonder the reviews weren't great.

But I still stayed to watch this Gravity song which everyone told me was the highlight of the show and how great Idina is at the number and how much I would like it.

It ended up being badly written, sung dreadfully and the music to it was similar to many bland 1980's pop bands I wish I had forgotten.

No no no, this show looks dreadful, dreadful, dreadful... How can anyone think this is good. WAKE UP ITS CRAP. Please go and see something worth watching....
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re: Royal Variety Performance - Wicked#9
Posted: 12/13/06 at 10:10am
Wicked and Idina were just fine. She was just getting over a bout of tonsillitus(?) or cold...

It just goes to show the differences in everyone's taste and preferences, one man's meat is another man's poison...

I must confess, I was actually embarrassed for Tim Curry (especially) and the rest of the cast of Spamalot, what drivel...
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re: Royal Variety Performance - Wicked#10
Posted: 12/13/06 at 10:14am
The mic'ing was terrible for Wicked. Just awful. There were parts where you could barely (or couldn't at all) hear Helen & Idina, and you can kind of tell they couldn't really hear themselves. The bit of straining from Idina at the end of DG is her overprojecting trying to hear herself over the orchestra. I don't think she was really ill, if a bit nervous.

The lighting and camera angles were poor as well, didn't really present it well at all. Thought One Short Day went off a little better but that song doesn't really come off well at stuff like this (not that it's ever that great), though neither does Defying Gravity. I don't know what they could have done instead of OSD, though... Popular always falls flat out of context. Maybe For Good.

Avenue Q was fun, though.
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re: Royal Variety Performance - Wicked#11
Posted: 12/13/06 at 11:07am
Agree with some of the responses in parts - the sound levels were dreadful really really poor, youre right you could see the two girls having a rough time with it, and Idina has had a cold so...

But it was still so so so so so so so bad and actually it just looked embarrasingly pathetic.

All that meaningless dancing in the background... Those bad comic costumes of fat characters (just looked like the UK show "Its A Knock Out"!) all that useless old flanel with the broom and the over stated over large cape at the end covering the stage...

Over done, Overstated, Over-rated and sadly Over here...

the only thing in its favour was the lighting when the hag was hoisted into the air - that looked great, but was ruined by Idina singing and that massive, meaningless black cape.

BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT - what a delight it was to see the curvy and beautifully smiley face of Ms. Foster in the hit of the evening Avenue Q. That was a great cast. Solid. Tallented and very funny. Very warm and looked like they were having a great time of it.

Claire Foster - with out wishing to sound like a stalker! - is stunning. Glad to see her with a large part of the mix of song and words. She works as hard as everyone else and is a delight to watch. I LOVE YOU...!!!!


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re: Royal Variety Performance - Wicked#12
Posted: 12/13/06 at 12:14pm
There are really no words to describe this BEAUTIFUL performance of this dazzling, fantastsic, amazing, overwhelming, gorgeous cast of AVENUE Q. Clare was so hilarious! Oh how I love that girl!
Enjoy the clip and go and see the show again and again (no I'm not working for Cameron)!!!
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re: Royal Variety Performance - Wicked#13
Posted: 12/13/06 at 12:16pm
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re: Royal Variety Performance - Wicked#14
Posted: 12/13/06 at 12:20pm
Oh I'm so sorry... just shoot me.
The clip above is (of course) from "Spamalot".

Here is "Avenue Q"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUQjTbemmG4
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re: Royal Variety Performance - Wicked#15
Posted: 12/13/06 at 1:03pm
I think the Wicked part was good. Idina sounded a bit ropey at parts (and does anyone else think she looked like she was going to cry at the end of Defying gravity?!), the sound and camera angles were s***e and the lighting wasn't as good as it is in the actual show, but it was Okay for just a one-night thing. And I kind of agree with Deathstar, about the black cape... It's there for a reason, but I think it kind of gives it away it's hiding something... lol. However, I don't agree with your opinions of Wicked. Lot's of people like it, and think over 100,000,000 pounds worth of tickets sold in 1 week is enough to say lots of people like it!
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re: Royal Variety Performance - Wicked#16
Posted: 12/13/06 at 1:46pm
"think over 100,000,000 pounds worth of tickets sold in 1 week is enough to say lots of people like it! "

I'd rather say that it says lots of people WANT TO SEE IT. There's a difference.
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re: Royal Variety Performance - Wicked#17
Posted: 12/13/06 at 2:16pm
It just annoys me when some people who have never seen the show seem fit to judge it on just 2 songs. I have seen the show twice and everytime I have come away extremely happy. I agree that what we saw last night did not do the show justice, but to do that you have to see it in full, with the full set and original lighting. People are too quick to judge.
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re: Royal Variety Performance - Wicked#18
Posted: 12/13/06 at 2:31pm
Apart from the bit of cracking at the end of DG, Idina seemed to do all right. I was expecting so much worse from everyone who's been talking about it! Even on a pretty rubbish day (was it the 4th that this was filmed?) she's still at LEAST 58 times better than I could ever even dream of being. I saw her perform on the 5th and she had a little bit of cracking and you could tell she was holding back a bit in No Good Deed, but eh. She's a musical theatre performer, she just had a cold, but she's still trooping on. I imagine she'll give herself plenty of rest come Januray. Marvellous. ^_^

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re: Royal Variety Performance - Wicked#19
Posted: 12/13/06 at 4:17pm
The sound of that Wicked performance was absolutely horrible. The score is hell to sing through to begin with--what with all the overblown orchestrations and Menzel being hoisted in the air. But to belt at the height of one's chest range with that incredible imbalance in the mics is ridiculous. Considering all that, she sounded good, and then seemed to force at the end. You could hear some phlegm come up--she's been recovering from bronchitis.

Her acting, I think, it gloriously poignant and incredibly human. Technical flaws aside, I think she's brilliant. The vulnerability she performs with is brave, moving, and unmatched.

How nice of you to call such a respectable performer a hag DeathStar.
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re: Royal Variety Performance - Wicked#20
Posted: 12/13/06 at 7:37pm
Should I be surprised or disappointed that Caroline, or Change hasn't been doing appearances during this, Children in Need, etc.? One would think that it certainly would have been appropriate for the latter...
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re: Royal Variety Performance - Wicked#21
Posted: 12/14/06 at 9:54am
Basically I wanna say that DeathStar you are a little out of line. I know everyone is entitled to their own opinons but its not good to tell people not to go and see a show, There are people working their butts off in that show and its not fair if people listen to one guys opinion and not go!!!
Admittedly Idina had some vocal issues on Tues night but I would like to see anyone else try and sing that role 8 shows a week!! Also they had a symphonic orchestra which is not what they're used to etc!!! I am a HUGE Idina fan and I know how it feels to have a new band or orchestra so I can completely sympathise with her!
Idina really did look uncomfortable in the show on tues cos I feel really sorry for her cos I think she was just really nervous, she may be a star but she is still a performer with nerves after all!
Anyway don't listen to DeathStar and do go and see 'Wicked!' Its AWESOME!!!!!! (if you can get there before end of December then do cos Idina leaves then! )
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re: Royal Variety Performance - Wicked#22
Posted: 12/14/06 at 10:58am
...and please go and see WICKED in January to see and support the great and amazing Kerry Ellis as Elphaba. Kerrys press night is on January 9th!
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re: Royal Variety Performance - Wicked#23
Posted: 12/14/06 at 12:22pm
"Should I be surprised or disappointed that Caroline, or Change hasn't been doing appearances during this, Children in Need, etc.? One would think that it certainly would have been appropriate for the latter..."

I don't think it's surprising...yeah, it would be awesome to see some Caroline appearances on these shows but it's not really going after the mainstream audience in the same way that Avenue Q and Wicked are. The NT doesn't need to appear on these shows to get people in to see the limited run, it's not the right audience and also it would be hard to pick a bit that showcased the show well.


Her acting, I think, it gloriously poignant and incredibly human. Technical flaws aside, I think she's brilliant. The vulnerability she performs with is brave, moving, and unmatched.

llllllllollllllll are you serious!?
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re: Royal Variety Performance - Wicked#24
Posted: 12/14/06 at 1:28pm
It's really not my aim to blame Menzel, but her breathing reminded me of Darth Vader and well her acting... I still can't believe why Tonya Pinkins didn't win this friggin Tony award!!!
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