This man is 22 weeks pregnant

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This man is 22 weeks pregnant#1
Posted: 3/26/08 at 11:42am
"I am transgender, legally male, and legally married to Nancy."
And carrying their child.

I am so weirded out....
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re: This man is 22 weeks pregnant#2
Posted: 3/26/08 at 11:45am
I saw this on CNN. It's interesting to say the least.
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re: This man is 22 weeks pregnant#2
Posted: 3/26/08 at 11:48am
What determines whether one is legally a male?
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re: This man is 22 weeks pregnant#3
Posted: 3/26/08 at 11:48am
I wish my husband could carry our baby.

ETA: Good question, Taz. I was wondering the same thing.
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re: This man is 22 weeks pregnant#4
Posted: 3/26/08 at 11:53am
I think transgender and legal assignements of sex vary from state to state.

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re: This man is 22 weeks pregnant#5
Posted: 3/26/08 at 11:53am
this brings up a lot of interesting questions.. is anyone aware of any articles about how some of the transgendered community are reacting?
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re: This man is 22 weeks pregnant#6
Posted: 3/26/08 at 12:02pm
no. Of course CNN only interviewed the straight neighbors who all laughed and thought it was a hoax.

I'll try to find the link.
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re: This man is 22 weeks pregnant#7
Posted: 3/26/08 at 12:10pm
"I am so weirded out...."

Why?
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Posted: 3/26/08 at 12:10pm
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Posted: 3/26/08 at 12:29pm
Everything's expired.

What's up? Did they realize it's a hoax?
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re: This man is 22 weeks pregnant#10
Posted: 3/26/08 at 12:37pm
The Advocate story is still up.
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re: This man is 22 weeks pregnant#11
Posted: 3/26/08 at 12:38pm
The links work fine for me.

And frankly, I'm not sure why it's the nation's concern what an individual does with his or her own body, anyway.
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re: This man is 22 weeks pregnant#12
Posted: 3/26/08 at 12:40pm
Like a person eating 300 hard boiled eggs in an hour or someone who is 8 feet tall, a man carrying a child is an object of curiosity.
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re: This man is 22 weeks pregnant#13
Posted: 3/26/08 at 12:43pm
Well, when the man is a female internally? Not that weird.
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Posted: 3/26/08 at 12:43pm
I suppose. I mean, I find it interesting as sort of one of the last frontiers of sexuality, that in this day and age these sorts of things are possible, but the general reaction seems to be more one of "gawk, stare and poke at the weirdo," which makes me uncomfortable.
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re: This man is 22 weeks pregnant#15
Posted: 3/26/08 at 12:44pm
"And frankly, I'm not sure why it's the nation's concern what an individual does with his or her own body, anyway."

When one presents their story to the media, aren't they inviting some sort of response?

I agree with Joe, it's unreasonable not to expect some sort of shock when people are presented with situations outside their experiences.

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re: This man is 22 weeks pregnant#16
Posted: 3/26/08 at 12:47pm
eh, Arnold did it over a decade ago.
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Posted: 3/26/08 at 12:47pm
I's nice that this couple is able to have and provide for a child. it appears they are committed to providing a loving home and life for this child first and foremost, so if that's the case, good for them.

While he is legally male, technically he is biologically female (and thus able to get pregnant and carry). If he were biologically male, this would not be biologically possibe. That in and of itself makes for an interesting story about the frontiers of sexuality.
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Posted: 3/26/08 at 12:50pm
Of course there is going to be some shock and confusion when people are presented with something outside their experience. I'm reacting more to the unfortunate "ew" (and more violent expressions) that I am sure are occurring (and I have seen occurring elsewhere).
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re: This man is 22 weeks pregnant#19
Posted: 3/26/08 at 12:51pm
Well he has been pregnant before (with triplets, I believe) and he lost them.

While it's great that his pregnancy is progressing normally, I would be very, very shocked if the baby is ever actually born in July.
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re: This man is 22 weeks pregnant#20
Posted: 3/26/08 at 12:59pm
At first I thought "Oh Dear" but after reading the article, it's actually quite sweet.

it's unreasonable not to expect some sort of shock when people are presented with situations outside their experiences.
Absolutely. They are breaking new ground. But hopefully people with open minds will be able to accept it.
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re: This man is 22 weeks pregnant#21
Posted: 3/26/08 at 1:12pm
SOMMS, the Cosby clan did it even before Arnold, invoking probably the raciest line to ever be uttered on that series, courtesy of Wallace Shawn: "And when I think of where that baby came out of? Ahhhhh!"
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re: This man is 22 weeks pregnant#22
Posted: 3/26/08 at 1:13pm
There is an old Ryan O'Neil movie where he gets pregnant. Anyone know what it's called?

Edit - it's Billy Crystal


look at that belly!
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Posted: 3/26/08 at 1:45pm
This is fascinating.
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re: This man is 22 weeks pregnant#24
Posted: 3/26/08 at 1:51pm
We covered this in my anthropology class last semester so let me see if I got this:

There's a difference between sex and gender. Sex is what you are born or what you are phsyically. So the "man" in the article was born a woman so the sex of the individual is female. Gender is what you are mentally, I guess. So because this person is transgender and prefers to be male over female, their gender is male.

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