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re: An open letter to the Disney Organization (or my 'Little Mermaid Review') - Note: There be spoilers ahead!#2
Posted: 12/13/07 at 1:23am
Posted: 12/13/07 at 1:23am
Nicely put.
The Director leaves town this week so don't expect any changes except for casting of the young boys and possibly one more.
I think the reviews are gonna be all over the place.
And this could end up on TKTS faster than POPPINS.
It will be interesting and expect the "sheep" to disagree with your review.
The Director leaves town this week so don't expect any changes except for casting of the young boys and possibly one more.
I think the reviews are gonna be all over the place.
And this could end up on TKTS faster than POPPINS.
It will be interesting and expect the "sheep" to disagree with your review.
re: An open letter to the Disney Organization (or my 'Little Mermaid Review#2
Posted: 12/13/07 at 1:26am
Posted: 12/13/07 at 1:26am
eeek! Scary stuff...and i think you're absolutely right that it all goes back to the director...even set and lighting decisions get final approval from the director....
re: An open letter to the Disney Organization (or my 'Little Mermaid Review') - Note: There be spoilers ahead!#3
Posted: 12/13/07 at 1:27am
Posted: 12/13/07 at 1:27am
No, I agree.
Though I can't believe the director's leaving NOW! (I know it's the Holidays of course, but the show needs work.)
And let me just reiterate - I want this show to be good more than anyone! I'm pulling for it!
Though I can't believe the director's leaving NOW! (I know it's the Holidays of course, but the show needs work.)
And let me just reiterate - I want this show to be good more than anyone! I'm pulling for it!
Madame Morrible: "So you take the chicken, now it must be a white chicken. The corpse can be any color. And that is the spell for lost luggage!" - The Yellow Brick Road Not Taken


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re: An open letter to the Disney Organization (or my 'Little Mermaid Review') - Note: There be spoilers ahead!#4
Posted: 12/13/07 at 1:42am
Posted: 12/13/07 at 1:42am
Well, in this case, the director is not calling the shots.
Read the name above the title....
Read the name above the title....
re: An open letter to the Disney Organization (or my 'Little Mermaid Review') - Note: There be spoilers ahead!#5
Posted: 12/13/07 at 1:44am
Posted: 12/13/07 at 1:44am
Right. Well, let me rephrase that. I don't understand why SOMEONE'S not around to fix stuff. If not, why don't they just open tomorrow?
Madame Morrible: "So you take the chicken, now it must be a white chicken. The corpse can be any color. And that is the spell for lost luggage!" - The Yellow Brick Road Not Taken


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re: An open letter to the Disney Organization (or my 'Little Mermaid Review') - Note: There be spoilers ahead!#6
Posted: 12/13/07 at 1:54am
Posted: 12/13/07 at 1:54am
Cause they are selling a lot of tkts.
Maybe they can keep the reviewers away forever.
Maybe they can keep the reviewers away forever.
re: An open letter to the Disney Organization (or my 'Little Mermaid Review') - Note: There be spoilers ahead!#7
Posted: 12/13/07 at 5:14am
Posted: 12/13/07 at 5:14am
Elphie3,
Great review, i have a feeling Disney don't care, as long as this makes it's money back in the next 12 months that is all that matters.
I think alot of other people will leave the Lunt feeling the same way over the next few months.
It will be interesting to see what Variety has to say once the show opens.
Great review, i have a feeling Disney don't care, as long as this makes it's money back in the next 12 months that is all that matters.
I think alot of other people will leave the Lunt feeling the same way over the next few months.
It will be interesting to see what Variety has to say once the show opens.
Well I didn't want to get into it, but he's a Satanist.
Every full moon he sacrifices 4 puppies to the Dark Lord and smears their blood on his paino.
This should help you understand the score for Wicked a little bit more.
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re: An open letter to the Disney Organization (or my 'Little Mermaid Review') - Note: There be spoilers ahead!#8
Posted: 12/13/07 at 6:42am
Posted: 12/13/07 at 6:42am
Why was the Rear/Mid Mezzanine so bad?
re: An open letter to the Disney Organization (or my 'Little Mermaid Review') - Note: There be spoilers ahead!#9
Posted: 12/13/07 at 7:46am
Posted: 12/13/07 at 7:46am
Okay I know it is one part of your open letter but in the movie... Sebatian does say, "Children, Give them an inch and they swim all over you..." Did they ruin that great fabulous line?
"Whenever I get gloomy with the state of the world, I think about the arrivals gate at Heathrow Airport. General opinion's starting to make out that we live in a world of hatred and greed, but I don't see that. It seems to me that love is everywhere. Often it's not particularly dignified or newsworthy, but it's always there - fathers and sons, mothers and daughters, husbands and wives, boyfriends, girlfriends, old friends. When the planes hit the Twin Towers, as far as I know none of the phone calls from the people on board were messages of hate or revenge - they were all messages of love. If you look for it, I've got a sneaky feeling you'll find that love actually is all around."
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re: An open letter to the Disney Organization (or my 'Little Mermaid Review') - Note: There be spoilers ahead!#10
Posted: 12/13/07 at 7:54am
Posted: 12/13/07 at 7:54am
Elphie, in your opening paragraph, which song did you quote, and from what show?
You've written a very strong, detailed essay. Can't wait to see whether I agree with you, or the people who have already seen it a million times.
We'll find out Saturday.
Updated On: 12/13/07 at 07:54 AMYou've written a very strong, detailed essay. Can't wait to see whether I agree with you, or the people who have already seen it a million times.
We'll find out Saturday.
re: An open letter to the Disney Organization (or my 'Little Mermaid Review') - Note: There be spoilers ahead!#11
Posted: 12/13/07 at 8:18am
Posted: 12/13/07 at 8:18am
I thought it was a nicely done review, would brobaboy take out a few of the "i'm sorry" lines, but it was ok. Perhaps you should also include that the point of having an out of town tryout is to test the material and fix things, which cant be done if you have pre-booked your broadway venue only a few months after the out of town tryouts, therefore having no time to do a major overhaul if needed (ala Aida)
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re: An open letter to the Disney Organization (or my 'Little Mermaid Review') - Note: There be spoilers ahead!#12
Posted: 12/13/07 at 8:50am
Posted: 12/13/07 at 8:50am
Maybe you should send that letter directly to Disney.
Just give the world Love.
re: An open letter to the Disney Organization (or my 'Little Mermaid Review') - Note: There be spoilers ahead!#13
Posted: 12/13/07 at 10:03am
Posted: 12/13/07 at 10:03am
I couldn't agree more. And sadly, I said the same things after the Denver run.


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re: An open letter to the Disney Organization (or my 'Little Mermaid Review') - Note: There be spoilers ahead!#14
Posted: 12/13/07 at 10:13am
Posted: 12/13/07 at 10:13am
Good Christ, this sounds like a disaster.
My open letter to Disney:
ENOUGH WITH THE TURDS, ALREADY!!
My open letter to Disney:
ENOUGH WITH THE TURDS, ALREADY!!
"Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing.”
~ Muhammad Ali
re: An open letter to the Disney Organization (or my 'Little Mermaid Review') - Note: There be spoilers ahead!#15
Posted: 12/13/07 at 10:19am
Posted: 12/13/07 at 10:19am
Hey! Thanks for the great feedback. To address your specific comments...
Sorry about the "I'm sorrys" - I wrote this at one in the morning. I'll go back and edit it :)
The rear Mezz wasn't the best place to sit because 1.) It's slightly obstructed (at least where I was) because of the GIANT aisle in between the front and middle Mezz. IT was hard to see what was happening at the very bottom of the stage. Also I have a feeling that the show was choreographed to be seen head on, and not from above - so the choreography may have looked better from the orchestra (thought big note - he rear orchestra is also obstructed by the meszz.)
In terms of the line "You give them an inch, the swim all over you" - yes I know it was from the movie - I love that line! They kept it in the show and it was great. I was just trying to point out their inconsistancies - they can say that a teenager can "swim all over you" but they're still "grounded" - I don't know. "Grounded" fees like such a literal human term.
The lyric "You've no greater champion than I" is from "Frankenstein" - otherwise known as "Hunterstein" - the off-Broadway, not Broadway one.
I very well may send it to Disney... you never know! :)
Sorry about the "I'm sorrys" - I wrote this at one in the morning. I'll go back and edit it :)
The rear Mezz wasn't the best place to sit because 1.) It's slightly obstructed (at least where I was) because of the GIANT aisle in between the front and middle Mezz. IT was hard to see what was happening at the very bottom of the stage. Also I have a feeling that the show was choreographed to be seen head on, and not from above - so the choreography may have looked better from the orchestra (thought big note - he rear orchestra is also obstructed by the meszz.)
In terms of the line "You give them an inch, the swim all over you" - yes I know it was from the movie - I love that line! They kept it in the show and it was great. I was just trying to point out their inconsistancies - they can say that a teenager can "swim all over you" but they're still "grounded" - I don't know. "Grounded" fees like such a literal human term.
The lyric "You've no greater champion than I" is from "Frankenstein" - otherwise known as "Hunterstein" - the off-Broadway, not Broadway one.
I very well may send it to Disney... you never know! :)
Madame Morrible: "So you take the chicken, now it must be a white chicken. The corpse can be any color. And that is the spell for lost luggage!" - The Yellow Brick Road Not Taken
re: An open letter to the Disney Organization (or my 'Little Mermaid Review') - Note: There be spoilers ahead!#16
Posted: 12/13/07 at 10:34am
Posted: 12/13/07 at 10:34am
I think you should send it to Disney. They probably won't read it here.
I saw it in Denver and enjoyed it. Wasn't crazy about the changes at the end. I enjoyed the new songs also. I am not the biggest fan of Disney Stage shows. I have seen all but Tarzan and Poppins on tour here in Denver. Beauty & the Beast being my least favorite. I was looking for the moving sidewalk to the next attraction. Thank goodness I didn't pay to see it. I think it is ashame that Disney pretty much doesn't care what theatergoers think as far as changes to their shows go and they pretty much march to the beat of their own drum. They said after the Denver run that they would not be making any of the bigger changes suggested for the second act in New York. Only some small ones. It seems that they would have learned their lesson with Tarzan. I sometimes think that they still don't get it. Broadway is not a theme park. Just my random thoughts.
I saw it in Denver and enjoyed it. Wasn't crazy about the changes at the end. I enjoyed the new songs also. I am not the biggest fan of Disney Stage shows. I have seen all but Tarzan and Poppins on tour here in Denver. Beauty & the Beast being my least favorite. I was looking for the moving sidewalk to the next attraction. Thank goodness I didn't pay to see it. I think it is ashame that Disney pretty much doesn't care what theatergoers think as far as changes to their shows go and they pretty much march to the beat of their own drum. They said after the Denver run that they would not be making any of the bigger changes suggested for the second act in New York. Only some small ones. It seems that they would have learned their lesson with Tarzan. I sometimes think that they still don't get it. Broadway is not a theme park. Just my random thoughts.
Just give the world Love.


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re: An open letter to the Disney Organization (or my 'Little Mermaid Review#17
Posted: 12/13/07 at 10:38am
Posted: 12/13/07 at 10:38am
I don't disagree with some of what you've said, but a few of things aren't quite correct... Eric does get in his ship and go after Ursula at the end (so he is not passive, though I agree that it was poorly blocked). It's just that Ariel manages to save herself. Also, it's "Part of That World" not "Part of Your World." It's an important distinction, especially in the context you used it. "The World Above" describes how Ariel has never felt completely at home in the sea. "Part of That World" is about her desire for knowledge of things unknown. She sees (and meets) Eric after that song and only then does he become a part of that picture (as opposed to being the whole picture).
I think Schumacher genuinely cares about producing good shows, but just isn't very talented. He knows they made huge mistakes with Tarzan and on paper, the idea of bringing in Zambello and her team seems to be a big step in the right direction. The production design on her other projects truly is beautiful. Unfortunately, she didn't handle the story through-line of a musical as well as she should have. I think it's unforgivable to start a show this big and not have the ending sorted before you start rehearsals. Disney should have paid the money for someone like Jack O'Brien (proven in both musicals and opera as seen in the brilliant Il Trittico at The Met this past season).
I love when people are critical and actually back up their points instead of just saying "it's a disaster" so thank you for the review. The strength of talent in the leads impressed me much more than it impressed you and maybe that's why I liked the show a lot more than you did. I had a lot of fun, felt that Act I was great, and think that overall it's a good show.
I think Schumacher genuinely cares about producing good shows, but just isn't very talented. He knows they made huge mistakes with Tarzan and on paper, the idea of bringing in Zambello and her team seems to be a big step in the right direction. The production design on her other projects truly is beautiful. Unfortunately, she didn't handle the story through-line of a musical as well as she should have. I think it's unforgivable to start a show this big and not have the ending sorted before you start rehearsals. Disney should have paid the money for someone like Jack O'Brien (proven in both musicals and opera as seen in the brilliant Il Trittico at The Met this past season).
I love when people are critical and actually back up their points instead of just saying "it's a disaster" so thank you for the review. The strength of talent in the leads impressed me much more than it impressed you and maybe that's why I liked the show a lot more than you did. I had a lot of fun, felt that Act I was great, and think that overall it's a good show.
If the audience could do better, they'd be up here on stage and I'd be out there watching them. - Ethel Merman
re: An open letter to the Disney Organization (or my 'Little Mermaid Review#18
Posted: 12/13/07 at 10:42am
Posted: 12/13/07 at 10:42am
Wow. I totally didn't even see him in his ship. Maybe it's where I was sitting - but good to know.
Thanks!
Thanks!
Madame Morrible: "So you take the chicken, now it must be a white chicken. The corpse can be any color. And that is the spell for lost luggage!" - The Yellow Brick Road Not Taken
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re: An open letter to the Disney Organization (or my 'Little Mermaid Review#19
Posted: 12/13/07 at 11:23am
Posted: 12/13/07 at 11:23am
Well put Elphie. One of the things I missed was some genuine magic, especially in UNDER THE SEA, which sadly was under-whelming. It should have been a b*lls to the wall, knock your socks off, outrageously fun PARTY. Titus sold the heck out of it, but the choreography, costumes, etc didn't put it over the top. In this song and elsewhere, would it have killed them to fire up a bubble machine? Now some would say this is idea might be too predictable or old hat, but look at the Gazillion Bubble Show as an example. They do amazing things now with bubbles and the effect I feel would have really put the audience in an under the sea mood. The song needed a bit more sparkle to really capture the animated film. Also, I missed the waves crashing behind Ariel while she sings on the rocks in the Part of Your World reprise. It's those seminal moments from the film that everyone remembers and Disney failed to adequately recreate them. They came very close with Kiss The Girl, which really touched me. Alas, they cut us off at the tail by not giving a well-deserved applause break.
re: An open letter to the Disney Organization (or my 'Little Mermaid Review#20
Posted: 12/13/07 at 11:34am
Posted: 12/13/07 at 11:34am
I agree with almost everything you wrote.
I'm a Disney fan, and while I felt Tarzan was a complete trainwreck, I really enjoyed Beauty and the Beast and had a pretty good time during Mary Poppins, so I was expecting to like Mermaid - especially since it has so many "good" musical theater numbers practically served up ready to go (Kiss the Girl, Under the Sea)
I'm not a theater professional or a critic. Just a fan. So when I'm sitting in a theater thinking "Good lord, this is the most lifeless, flat musical staging I've ever seen" then you know something is wrong.
It was positively dismal - and a lot of it was the staging. If you're going to have a big number, I need more choreography than everybody just waving their arms around the whole time... while slowly weaving around - especially during a big number like "under the sea"
Also the two giant... bongs. Were distracting. And silly. And used for everything from the ocean to the palace. Hideous set.
The only numbers that landed for me were Sherie Rene Scotts - and I couldn't tell if it was because they were well directed or if Sherie is just SO GOOD that she can make anything look fabulous - it might be a little of both.
And the lyrics to the finale were so banal that I was laughing. What a let down. Throwing confetti at the audience after that song is NOT going to make us forget about how much it sucked.
Yikes. I really thought I'd love this show - it has some of the best music of any of the Disney films...
I thought the cast was very strong, if that counts for anything, but they can't save it on their own!
I'm a Disney fan, and while I felt Tarzan was a complete trainwreck, I really enjoyed Beauty and the Beast and had a pretty good time during Mary Poppins, so I was expecting to like Mermaid - especially since it has so many "good" musical theater numbers practically served up ready to go (Kiss the Girl, Under the Sea)
I'm not a theater professional or a critic. Just a fan. So when I'm sitting in a theater thinking "Good lord, this is the most lifeless, flat musical staging I've ever seen" then you know something is wrong.
It was positively dismal - and a lot of it was the staging. If you're going to have a big number, I need more choreography than everybody just waving their arms around the whole time... while slowly weaving around - especially during a big number like "under the sea"
Also the two giant... bongs. Were distracting. And silly. And used for everything from the ocean to the palace. Hideous set.
The only numbers that landed for me were Sherie Rene Scotts - and I couldn't tell if it was because they were well directed or if Sherie is just SO GOOD that she can make anything look fabulous - it might be a little of both.
And the lyrics to the finale were so banal that I was laughing. What a let down. Throwing confetti at the audience after that song is NOT going to make us forget about how much it sucked.
Yikes. I really thought I'd love this show - it has some of the best music of any of the Disney films...
I thought the cast was very strong, if that counts for anything, but they can't save it on their own!
Now what would you say if today I started over?
Without a thing but this taped together four leaf clover
And I'll pretend like everything is already alright
And I'll run toward the sun till the castle's out of sight
re: An open letter to the Disney Organization (or my 'Little Mermaid Review#21
Posted: 12/13/07 at 12:17pm
Posted: 12/13/07 at 12:17pm
Thanks for the support!
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re: An open letter to the Disney Organization (or my 'Little Mermaid Review#22
Posted: 12/13/07 at 12:49pm
Posted: 12/13/07 at 12:49pm
Just give the world Love.
re: An open letter to the Disney Organization (or my 'Little Mermaid Review#23
Posted: 12/13/07 at 1:23pm
Posted: 12/13/07 at 1:23pm
great review elphie.
....but the world goes 'round
re: An open letter to the Disney Organization (or my 'Little Mermaid Review#24
Posted: 12/13/07 at 1:26pm
Posted: 12/13/07 at 1:26pm
I saw the show Tuesday night and coincidentally sat in between the lighting designer (Natasha Katz) and the director, and their assistants with notebooks. I was so disappointed with many aspects of the show. During intermission, I congratulated Ms. Katz and she laughed and said thank you and was surprised I knew who she was. I also told her assistant after a bathroom break that Flounder's costume was the ugliest costume I'd seen on a Broadway stage and that she should take note of that. She was young and cool and laughed, but didn't physically take note of it







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