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The Bible from a Humanist Perspective

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The Bible from a Humanist Perspective#1
Posted: 12/4/07 at 7:00am
An online study of the bible as literature and myth for humanists and other non-believers.

I know there are a few folks on here who would find this interesting.

http://parentingbeyondbelief.com/blog/index.php
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re: The Bible from a Humanist Perspective#2
Posted: 12/4/07 at 9:48am
Thanks for posting that! I find that really interesting, and will keep track of it in the future...
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Posted: 12/4/07 at 2:44pm
Updated On: 9/5/08 at 02:44 PM
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re: The Bible from a Humanist Perspective#3
Posted: 12/4/07 at 3:09pm
For those who are interested in participating, here is the initial blog post outlining what you will need and the versions being used:

http://parentingbeyondbelief.com/blog/?p=150
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re: The Bible from a Humanist Perspective#4
Posted: 12/4/07 at 3:35pm
Sounds intriguing to me.
I stand corrected, you are as vapid as they say.
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re: The Bible from a Humanist Perspective#5
Posted: 12/4/07 at 3:37pm
Thanks, Colleen. It was worth the read for the section on bias alone.
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re: The Bible from a Humanist Perspective#6
Posted: 12/4/07 at 6:26pm
This raises some of the basic questions people have raised for hundreds of years about the Bible. I'm not sure it's an honest look into theology, but it is certainly consistent with previous humanist thought.
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re: The Bible from a Humanist Perspective#7
Posted: 12/5/07 at 6:34am
His entry isn't really intended to be an "honest look into theology" (and for that, read the entry on 'bias'). Each reader is expected to do the homework on their own, and read opinions from a variety of sources, to reach their own conclusions. He simply lists a few passages that register with him and the reasons why.
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re: The Bible from a Humanist Perspective#8
Posted: 12/13/07 at 6:36am
This week is First Corinthians

http://parentingbeyondbelief.com/blog/?p=159

I knew the timeline of First Corinthians, but it never really occurred to me before to read the material as if pre-Gospel. Since I've always been presented with them at the same time, I just naturally linked them.
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re: The Bible from a Humanist Perspective#9
Posted: 12/13/07 at 10:03am
Yet another interesting thing about these stories that makes them compelling to me from an analytical standpoint.
Current historical-biblical scholarship breaks them down this way:

c. 26 CE- the death of the historical figure Jesus of Nazareth

c. 40-60 CE- Paul's letters

c. 65 CE- the development of hypothetical Q

c. 70-80 CE- the gospel of Mark, Mark is thought to have been writting for a particular group of that were "originally Jewish" and most likely had heard the stories but never saw

c.80-100 CE (but after Mark)- The Gospel of Matthew, written for a group of "gentile converts" combining ideas of Mark and Q and changing them for new audiences


c.90-110 CE - The Gospel of Luke and Acts, again using Mark and Q this time written by an upperclas citizen (although often attributed to a woman now) also the first appearance of many of the "Moral" teachings- ie "the Good Samaritan" story

c. 100-130 CE (but after all the others) The Gospel of John, which follows little of the story of the other gospels and was a complete change in the material speaking to and for a subset of mystical gnostics
I stand corrected, you are as vapid as they say.
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re: The Bible from a Humanist Perspective#10
Posted: 12/13/07 at 11:47am
Keep in mind that the dates you listed above are all highly subjective, and there are quite a few respected theologians and archeologists who would disagree with every single one of those dates.

I do think the one thing they all agree on is that the gospels were written quite a bit after Jesus' crucifixion. At least a couple of generations. However, the exact years are suspect.
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re: The Bible from a Humanist Perspective#11
Posted: 12/13/07 at 8:42pm
I did not list a single exact year in every single case I noted that the date is approximate and it is in fact a range of years.

Legitimate scholarship is settling closer and closer on the dates.
There are certainly additions and changes that fall outside of those dates, but the vast majority of the texts fall well within the outline I presented.

My point, however, was that it is interesting to note that the gospels arose at different times and in order to respond to very different communities.
I stand corrected, you are as vapid as they say.
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re: The Bible from a Humanist Perspective#12
Posted: 12/18/07 at 5:51pm
A rather biting look at the Gospel of Mark
http://parentingbeyondbelief.com/blog/?p=166
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re: The Bible from a Humanist Perspective#13
Posted: 12/26/07 at 10:34am
Luke and Matthew are this week's study.

http://parentingbeyondbelief.com/blog/?p=173

Apropos considering the holiday.
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re: The Bible from a Humanist Perspective#14
Posted: 12/26/07 at 3:38pm
Thanks for the link..very informative!

J*
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re: The Bible from a Humanist Perspective#15
Posted: 12/31/07 at 1:52pm
This week we have John:
http://parentingbeyondbelief.com/blog/?p=177

Best blog yet solely for the inclusion of a clip from Jesus Christ Superstar.
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