What Do You REALLY Think Of Shakespeare?

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What Do You REALLY Think Of Shakespeare?#1
Posted: 8/10/07 at 4:42pm
Do you like him because you've been CONDITIONED to like him or do you genuinely love his work? Or do you fancy his work mediocre but still respect the influence he had on the English language?
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I geniunely adore Hamlet and Othello. I think they are two of the best plays ever written.

I get your question and I really have questioned why I love him. And then I read Hamlet or Othello again and the question is answered.
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I like certain parts of his various works...for example, my friends and I often recite the thumb-biting scene from Romeo and Juliet. I highly respect him as a writer and story teller. I'm not so sure that I "love" him, though.
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Talky, out of control, unruly, pretentious, and featuring such outrageous plot holes a four year old could see through them. He uses, like, one hundred words when a simple sentence would suffice. Cleary a meglomaniac narcissist who likes hearing the sound of his own writer's voice. Well, thank you Mr. Shakespeare but we're not all so enamored.
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Wow, that's a lot of anger. Do you have some unresolved Shakespeare issues, Borstal? re: What Do You REALLY Think Of Shakespeare?
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I thought he was rude.

He borrowed money from me and never paid me back.
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Once again, sarcasm falls to a thud on BWW.
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How much, Diva? I simply must know!
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Shakespeare is a koo ho. Importance of his work notwithstanding, they're just damn entertaining.
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*feels stupid*

Thanks be to Jaysus, Borstal. I was feeling a bit sick to my stomach for a few moments.
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Shakespeare and I have never gotten along. If you want to discuss his "historical" plays in particular, I've never liked him. It seriously bothers me that the world's main exposure to a lot of historical people is through the Tudor era writings of William Shakespeare. I know people think he's brilliant, but I've never particularly understood that. Most of my friends adore everything he ever wrote. Myself, I can take some of the sonnets and think they're very nice (though I openly admit I am not overly qualified for sonnet reading), but in terms of his plays I find them to be extremely overrated. I'm sure Mr. Shakespeare is a talented writer, particularly for his time period, but I think his "greatness" has been far exaggerated over time to the point of being ridiculous.
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Straight over the top of my head...
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I think he was the Benny Hill of his time.
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I don't really understand most of it honestly. It's a little hard for me. re: What Do You REALLY Think Of Shakespeare?
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"How much, Diva? I simply must know!"

I think it was about tree fiddy.
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I'm currently taking a Classical Text acting class, focusing mainly on Shakespeare, and the more I learn and read Shakespeare the more I like it. Once you get it in your head that the words are English, the language we speak, and that his characters are not much different from us today, then his plays become very interesting to read.
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If only he wrote musicals--you all would LOVE him!

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i like some of his stuff and some stuff i don't it really depends on the play or sonnet. I do still have to stop and think about some of his stuff but i enjoy it nonetheless.
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If Shakespeare were still alive today, what would he think of Star Trek?
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He would love 'Q' from Next Generation.
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re: What Do You REALLY Think Of Shakespeare?#20
Posted: 8/10/07 at 10:10pm
One year for my New Year's resolution I resolved that if I had the time and money for a ticket and I heard about any production of a Shakespeare play, I would go to see it.

I probably should have kept a diary because I have no idea how many shows I saw, but it was a lot. It was the only New Year's resolution I actually kept for a full year.

And it was such an edifying year. From a Peter Hall directed show to an inner city Shakespeare competition for high school students who did a Tempest that brought tears to my eyes just for the fact that they ATTACKED that show, it was probably the single most theatrically nutritious year I have ever had.

Love the bard.
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re: What Do You REALLY Think Of Shakespeare?#21
Posted: 8/10/07 at 10:11pm
Well - seeing as I'm wearing a Shakespeare festival shirt right now, I have to say I love his work. Actually, I really enjoy his stories and the language, but I do appreciate and agree with some of the criticism such as plot holes, weak subplots etc. I personally dislike all the popular music/songs he included and plays within a play. Those are just painful.

I love Hamlet, R&J, and Much Ado. I think that the reason most people dislike Shakespeare is that they never see a really good production. I've seen middle of the road productions where you truly have to be a Shakespeare fan, but when you see a truly outstanding production it is hard to deny the beauty of some of his scenes. IF you ever have the chance to go to the Chicago Shakespeare Theatre, I'd highly suggest it. I've seen some wonderful Shakespeare there. However, you can find great productions anywhere, it just takes a little research.
So, that was the Drowsy Chaperone. Oh, I love it so much. I know it's not a perfect show...but it does what a musical is supposed to do. It takes you to another world, and it gives you a little tune to carry with you in your head for when you're feeling blue. Ya know?
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re: What Do You REALLY Think Of Shakespeare?#22
Posted: 8/10/07 at 11:31pm
I enjoy both performing and watching his work, though I don't really enjoy reading it. And I really only ever if I'm performing it or doing a piece from it, and if that's the case I usually use it with the text translated into modern English beside it (No Fear Shakespeare is a favourite)

Though it seems I have a particular knack for performing it. Last year I was chosen as one of the finalists for Pittsburgh's city-wide Shakespeare contest. (Okay, I'm bragging. But there's very little I get to brag about :)
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re: What Do You REALLY Think Of Shakespeare?#23
Posted: 8/10/07 at 11:49pm
"I don't really enjoy reading it"

It wasn't written to be read - they're not novels.

For me personally, it is the collected work that stands as the epitome.
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re: What Do You REALLY Think Of Shakespeare?#24
Posted: 8/10/07 at 11:55pm
I'm not really a fan of the historical stuff, but the comedies and especially the tragedies truly are some of the best plays ever written. When I teach Shakespeare and my kids, as they inevitably will, ask why he needs to use ten words where three would suffice, I show them the sheer beauty of the language - how the words themseves act like pictures - that THAT is the art. Additionally, to second Borstal's remarks in the negative, those plots are simply brilliant. Yes, many were done before Shakespeare, but the combination of tight plotting, genuinely FUNNY material in the case of the comedies, and that beautiful language, certainly places his works at the top of the canon.
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