Michael Vick should be kicked out of the NFL.

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And I used to be a huge fan.

According to the indictment, dogs that didn't show enough fighting spirit, or that lost matches, were put to death by a variety of methods, including shooting, drowning, hanging and electrocution. Prosecutors allege that on one occasion earlier this year, Vick participated in killing eight dogs.
NFL star indicted over dog fighting
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glad to see that whole presumption of innocence inherent in our legal system still carries such weight.
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Gosh, let's see. The whole set up was on his property in Virginia. Unless the man never lives there, which is kinda unlikely, "presumption of innocence" has gone straight out the window. "Oh, I didnt know about anything about that!" Suuuuure, Michael. I just bet you didnt.

The truly awful thing is, he'll get a fine and a slap on the wrist, and that'll be that. What the dogs themselves went through will be meaningless. Gotta love that justice system.
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But papa, Goodell's new player conduct policy covers players who are charged with illegal activity too, not just the convicted.

I think if you're charged you have to undergo evaluation and counseling and if you fail to comply with that or get arrested/charged with something else during that time period, you're subject to fines or suspension, whether you are proven guilty in a court of law or not.

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Sean, if the facts alleged are proven to be true, he will serve time in a federal prison.

These are not minor charges, and the feds don't mess around with this.

Everyone I have heard talk about this says that if the case is proven to a jury - and if those involved turn on Vick, he may be jail for a very, very long time.

And, if the allegations are true, he is one, sick, twisted human being.
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I think every time he doesn't complete a pass, he should be receive an electric shock, have his head held under water, and hung by the balls. Seems fair.
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>> Sean, if the facts alleged are proven to be true, he will serve time in a federal prison.

I hope so, but I guess I'm cynical enough about the Cult of Celebrity to think he probably wont.
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I don't know though, this involves dogs and people are funny about animals. Get enough pet owners on the jury and it won't matter who is on trial.
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"I don't know though, this involves dogs and people are funny about animals. Get enough pet owners on the jury and it won't matter who is on trial."

Which won't happen....his defense attorneys will see to that.
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This is a horrible crime. BUT he is assumed innocent until it is otherwise proven. He will probably lose may young fans who are also animal lovers.
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unless the man never lives there, which is kinda unlikely,

unlikely to some folks who ain't gots the cash #7 gots. michael lives in duluth, ga. the house which was raided is one of several homes he owns. one must find something to do with the money he got from the 10-year, $130 million contract he signed with the falcons in 2004. a house for you and one for you and one for you too.
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Ruby Payne (sp?) lecturer on poverty and other related subjects talks about how hard it is to rise from one "social class" to another. It's interesting. We throw money at these people who, by no fault of their own, don't know how to handle it. It seems they always end up in some kind of trouble. I guess they begin to think they're above the law and the rest of us. It will be interesting to follow this. I agree that some celebrities get special treatment, and it is a shame.
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omg, thank you for that valuable insight. i wait with bated breath for the next synapse to fire.
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michael vick should be kicked out of the nfl#13
Posted: 7/19/07 at 10:06pm
I'm with Papa on this one-- horrible charges, let's see the verdict. Meanwhile, I do think it's reasonable to hold him to the same standards he held his dogs to: If he loses the next game, we wet him down and electrocute him. Fair enough?
No good can possibly come from using this vast wasteland of error and deliberate deceit. You should get off of it and warn others away. You should make sure your children and grandchildren know what a corrupt and morally bankrupt institution it truly is.
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michael vick should be kicked out of the nfl#14
Posted: 7/19/07 at 10:08pm
and of those who quote the nfl doctrine, those who have suffered roger's brutality have been repeat offenders. michael, as awful as this all sounds, is a newby in the legal system.
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michael vick should be kicked out of the nfl#15
Posted: 7/19/07 at 10:10pm
You're welcome, Papa! Just sharing a thought.
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michael vick should be kicked out of the nfl#16
Posted: 7/19/07 at 10:10pm
Innocent until proven guilty is all well and good, but does anyone here truly believe that he had nothing to do with the atrocities on his property?

Not just hypothetically, honestly.
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michael vick should be kicked out of the nfl#17
Posted: 7/19/07 at 10:18pm
have you ever owned a property and leased or deeded it to another, craww?
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michael vick should be kicked out of the nfl#18
Posted: 7/19/07 at 10:24pm
No. Do you always answer a question with another question?
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michael vick should be kicked out of the nfl#19
Posted: 7/19/07 at 10:45pm
i thought so. well., huh,. life works sometimes different than it does in the park, hun. but you fire one, baby.
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michael vick should be kicked out of the nfl#20
Posted: 7/19/07 at 10:47pm
Did you compile that sentence with a random word generator, or what?
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michael vick should be kicked out of the nfl#21
Posted: 7/20/07 at 10:37am
True, he hasn't been charged before, but there was the water bottle secret compartment issue at the airport earlier this year.

Not that it compares with Pacman or Tank, but I could see Roger taking a hard line on this. It's probably better for the Falcons if he does - suspend him and they don't have to deal with a guy going back and forth to criminal procedings in between games.
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michael vick should be kicked out of the nfl#22
Posted: 7/20/07 at 10:42am
Papa, you can pretend he's innocent all you want, but IMVHO the man is guilty as shower scum.
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michael vick should be kicked out of the nfl#23
Posted: 7/20/07 at 11:18am
Vick still has a right to his job although it will be a PR nightmare for the Falcons. He is an overrated QB.
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I think he should be suspended with pay (or take a leave of absence) until the trial is over. It will be a circus at every game he plays in this year with the media, protestors, etc. At some point you have to even worry about his safety. It will be a huge ordeal for the Falcons to deal with. I know that having Vick play will give them a better chance to win, but with the negative media hounding their every step would it be worth it?

As a season ticket holder for the Carolina Panthers, I can't even begin to imagine what Bank of America Stadium will be like on November 11 if he is starting for the Falcons. I mean, Vick was hated enough here BEFORE he was indicted.
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