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The argument for abortion

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The argument for abortion#1
Posted: 7/19/07 at 12:25am
If the parents don't want to take responsibility for 'em...

Prosecutors delay charging teens tied to carjacking death

Two juveniles, 14 and 16, are in custody in connection with the death of Gwendolyn Hall, 56, of Detroit. The teens are accused of driving a stolen Jeep Cherokee into her motorized wheelchair on a sidewalk...“The 14-year-old was driving.” The Cherokee crashed into another vehicle, a Jeep Liberty, a signpost and then Hall

http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070718/NEWS01/70718047/1003


Police bust 'kiddie crime wave' targeting Chrysler cars

Authorities are seeking charges against eight juveniles and an 18-year-old..."I understand that one of the young suspects is so small that he only steals cars in which he knows he can reach the pedals." The arrested juveniles include two 16-year-olds, two 15-year-olds, three 14-year olds, one 13-year-old and a pregnant 14-year-old girl.


http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2007707180426

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re: The argument for abortion#2
Posted: 7/19/07 at 12:27am
Yawper, please change the title of this thread. Thanks!
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re: The argument for abortion#2
Posted: 7/19/07 at 12:29am
why?
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re: The argument for abortion#3
Posted: 7/19/07 at 12:36am
How is your post an "argument for abortion"?
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re: The argument for abortion#4
Posted: 7/19/07 at 12:40am
think about it, I'm sure it'll dawn on you
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re: The argument for abortion#5
Posted: 7/19/07 at 12:46am
Are there medical tests that a woman can take to predict that her children will commit crimes? If so, she should seek an abortion? So, crime is an argument for abortion?
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re: The argument for abortion#6
Posted: 7/19/07 at 1:29am
I don't think that many of us are necessarily "for" abortion, but instead believe that such decisions are best kept with the women who would be responsible for carrying a child to term.

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re: The argument for abortion#7
Posted: 7/19/07 at 4:48am
Bases on the thread title I thought this was going to be about George W.
....but the world goes 'round
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re: The argument for abortion#8
Posted: 7/19/07 at 6:56am
I second what YouWantItWhen said.

Every child deserves to be loved, supported and raised with thoughtful intentions.

Not having the advantage of those items doesn't mean that a
child is going to grow into a murderous criminal, nor does the
most loving childhood guarantee a "solid citizen".

Mixing pro-choice sentiments (and I'm not sure that "the case for abortion" falls into that catagory...) with criminality does a disservice to the fight women are waging to have control of our own bodies. Your point is obvious, Yawper, but crudely stated. And I hope the baggage it carries in the message is unintentional.

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re: The argument for abortion#9
Posted: 7/19/07 at 8:00am
iflitifloat... many if not most Public Policy analysts, Political Scientists and Economists believe that legalized abortion DOES have a strong correlation with young adults and crime...
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re: The argument for abortion#10
Posted: 7/19/07 at 8:19am
Huh?
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re: The argument for abortion#11
Posted: 7/19/07 at 9:59am
Is it closer to an argument for adoption?
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re: The argument for abortion#12
Posted: 7/19/07 at 10:04am
many if not most Public Policy analysts, Political Scientists and Economists believe that legalized abortion DOES have a strong correlation with young adults and crime...

The book Freakonomics posits such a theory (a lot more graciously), but I believe that a lot of it has been discredited.
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re: The argument for abortion#13
Posted: 7/19/07 at 10:50am
The argument advanced that in poor/urban areas, where abortions were available, less "unwanted" children were born, and there was a decrease over crime rates correlating to the decline in birth rates.

It is in Freakonomics. From the book: "As far a crime is concerned, it turns out that not all children are born equal. Not even close. Decades of studies have shown that a child born into an adverse family environment is far more likely than other children to become a criminal. And, the millions of women most likely to have an abortion in the wake of Roe v. Wade - poor, unmarried, and teenage mothers for whom illegal abortions had been too expensive or too hard to get - were often models of adversity....It wasn't gun control or a strong economy or new police strategies that finally blunted the American crime wave. It was, among other factors, the reality that the pool of potential criminals had dramatcally shrunk."

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re: The argument for abortion#14
Posted: 7/19/07 at 10:57am
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